Draft Day One, Second Overflow Thread: Pirates Pick Victor Black, Brooks Pounders
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
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PrintContinue draft talk here. The Pirates went cheap with the fourth overall pick, grabbing Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez. (For much more on him, see below.) It was, in my opinion, a pretty dreadful pick, but it should mean that their next three picks today could end up being almost as important as the first one--they'll have plenty of cash to throw around.
9:20: The Pirates have chosen pitcher Victor Black, from Dallas Baptist, with the 49th overall pick. Here's some info:
STRENGTHS: Can hit 95 MPH; good slider, made strides with changeup, dominating performances this spring. WEAKNESSES: Was ineffective in previous seasons due to command problems; stamina could be an issue; like Arnett, he's made a lot of progress in a short time but needs to prove he can sustain it. PROJECTION: supplemental round; could be interesting for home-state Rangers at 44.
Sounds like a legit pick at #49. The Bucs do have to sign him, because it's the compensation pick for not signing Tanner Scheppers last year. He apparently throws very hard and can also throw his breaking ball and changeup for strikes. He didn't pitch until the end of his high school career, so hopefully he'll be able to get through the minors without injury problems.
The Pirates pick high school pitcher Brooks Pounders at #53. Note to Bill Virdon: his hometown is pronounced "Te-MEC-u-la." The Sporting News describes him as a "fringe first-rounder." He's a big guy and was also a hitter in high school, but the Pirates announced him as a pitcher. He's committed to USC. He throws four decent pitches, which is unusual for a high schooler, and he's very big, but he doesn't throw that hard yet. Here's some video of him hitting; he's a big dude for a high school pick, so there could be weight issues going forward.
With their third-round pick, the Pirates took Florida community college CF Evan Chambers. He's a small guy--5'9"--who was ranked near the bottom of Baseball America's top 200 draft prospects list. They recently described him as a 5th- or 6th-round talent.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think thats wise
For Green’s sake anyway……
So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded!? Yea, totally. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us and you're retarded. Thats 25 percent. -South Park; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.
by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
…as long as there’s no comment about “eating Crow,” I’m okay with it.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHA
I hope not…..
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude….
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
…see above comment, put 2 + 2 together.
Just kidding, amigo. ;-)
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
The Royals took Crow? That’s two straight surprises.
’nat.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Tweeting the draft sidebar could be the dumbest thing ever.
It’s just things like TheRealMariners: only 14 more picks till we’re up! lotsa buz in the draft room!
RIP NATE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...MISTER TONY PLUSH!
hahahha
ghey.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait NVM
um… just ignore it? I forgot it existed until you mentioned it…
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Perhaps a trade is in order with Mr. Beane.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha!
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
defense
I’m sorry if this was mentioned earlier, but could it be that they liked his defense and make up in respects to the develop of young pitchers through the minors. Perhaps they view a catcher with this type of attitude and ability as an asset in their goal of developing pitching. Sort of like hiring a young coach to grow with a team. They are expecting Sanchez to grow with their pitchers. Maybe they consider the catcher as part of the pitching staff, rather than part of the lineup. Thinking outside the box will only benefit the org, it’s really hard to make things worse.
But they have a catcher like that already. JJ.
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by gorillakilla34 on Jun 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ’s going to stay up, Diaz down. Not a bad though by superope.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Huntington Said What?
During the Bucco game they quoted Huntington and he said that Sanchez was the highest rated player on their board when they picked. Thats not good that we had him there and nobody else had him higher than like 25.
Well obviously
every other team is stupid
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This is a really weird draft. I don’t think there’s much agreement about who the best players are.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone ever notice that
Neal H has a man-crush on defensive-first catchers the same way DL had a fetish for middle relievers?
Just sayin’
I get the feeling there's gonna be at least
SIX overflow thread of this draft tonight
49
Slade heathcott @ 49 I’m holding my breath on that one
Native Texan
Top Texan prep on the board…….figures.
You could’ve completely reversed the order of the third to 14th picks and I wouldn’t have batted an eye.
ok last thing ill say about green....
but why would we not pick him?
it made so much sense
lets start a love game, start a love game
That's why.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m watching the draft, but I’ve got the gamethread open in a different tab.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
smartarse.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Listening to draft, watching Bucs.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooh, just in time to see us score.
Also, cheese puffs don’t taste like cheese. They taste like the color orange.
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“It tastes like burning!”
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess we can always
use Cutch to trade for #4 and #5 starting pitchers we aren’t drafting this year in 2012 before he goes to arbitration. It’s all about the Benjamins.
Alex White
to Cleveland.
He ends up in Ohio anyways… just not as high as predicted
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Huntington on the TV
explaining the pick…
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casual Pirate fan
mutes the TV and listens to We Are Family
He's on TV
I thought he just stuck with writing letters over the internet
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He claims, not convincingly, that Sanchez was third on their board behind Strasburg and Ackley. He is however more believable when he says that he still expects the Pirates to be in the top 5 or 10 spenders in the draft, and that this time one player will not take up 2/3s of the draft budget like last year.
If that means we spend $8M on the back end of the draft, I am OK with the plan. I still do wish we’d taken someone like Borchering or Leake, but let’s see what happens with Sanchez over the next few years. It seems like they’re all pretty close in value.
They've all got questions
I guess it came down to which player the Pirates had fewest questions about
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But it's Al Davis
his board is all about speed, so it never matches anyone else
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Bob Walk
Asking the “tough” questions… shut up, Walkie…
I'm droppin' flava, my behavior is hereditary--but my technique is very necessary.
Oops
I guess that was actually Wehner asking stupid questions…
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While, Matzek did not come across well.....
Matzek did not come across well in his interview. Probably being too judgemental, but can live without him based on those two minutes.
He
looks like an elf. Big, pointy ears don’t help him
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He's a Boras "advisor"
of course he’s gonna have a big ego trip
Selig
he like jumps up or something before he announces the pick. WTF?
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Meanwhile
Ohllie with a 1-2-3…
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10 pitches.
Plus Lowe’s pitching, so we will hit him like we’re on “Cops.”
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Pollock
Hmmmm..
I figured he’d be picked somewhere between 25-32.
D'Backs have been doing a great job
draftin hitters the past 5 yrs
No one mention
the guys still left. Maybe someone good will fall
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Kyle Gibson could end up being a steal for whoever gets him.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, crap. That was the pick that happened while I was in the bathroom.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Chad James, HS pitcher
to the Marlins
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Good projectable
Body and apparently a lot of room for improvement when it comes to velocity and stuff.
I'd love to see Cox
get ejected yet again…
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Interesting stuff from Neal
Per Post Gazette:
“We looked at the draft overall and put together a process that is best going to allow us to allocate the tremendous resources Bob Nutting has given us. This draft is going to be judged on 50 picks, and this was not a year — in our minds — to spend a huge chunk of our budget on one player. This is going to be spread over multiple players. We have a chance to flood our system with quality prospects.”
I asked Huntington if his board reflected signability and, if so, if there were any players the Pirates felt were more talented or had higher ceilings: “In our minds, Tony Sanchez is an outstanding pick. We put players on our board without signability as a primary factory. It factors in all our decisions, without question. But, if we felt like a player was worth a huge chunk of our signing-bonus budget, we would have gone in that direction.”
Brad Lidge on the DL
do they want one of our relievers?
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Conspiracy theories abound on that move
Some people think he was just too much of a liability at the moment to take into a series against the Mets
I'm droppin' flava, my behavior is hereditary--but my technique is very necessary.
Some are already calling for his head as Phillies closer, which I think is stupid because yes, he’s blown 6 saves, but c’mon. It was a fluke that he was perfect last season. I think he’s really got a knee issue, personally….
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It was kind of inevitable that the teams picking down here would look like geniuses.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the Pirates once again just being the Pirates. Another terrible first rd. pick. And the beat goes on.
Attaboy, brakes.
Now, if we can only lure you over to the Moss side….
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy
I didn’t say he was perfect. I like the position Moss is playing tonight. ;-) He needed a mental break after the last couple of games. Let’s hope he gets back on track tomorrow.
I was just ribbin’ you, amigo.
;-)
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t know much about him. Looks like a small guy.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I understand
Plus glove who will be able to stay at SS, but peeps are kind of worried about the bat.
I'm Surprised
I’m so used to seeing the Twins pick someone kind of off the wall, but now they make a pretty normal pick. Damn you Twins for being normal for once.
it wasn't really
realistic to think gibson would last to 49. the injury isn’t that bad
Leave it to Minnesota to get him
What a shty night this is gonna be
Kenny Williams
IS a tool…
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
...
if you’ve got two picks in a row, do you draft the guy you think wants more money second (angels)
49?
for all are draft experts wat pitcher is left to watch out for at are 49 pick?
Scheppers is still available, but the Bucs aren’t taking him. :)
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
They would have had to ask his permission because they drafted him last year, and I think they either didn’t do that or were denied.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a fan of
Colton Cain. He’ll be a really tough sign so i’d rather take him at 53, but he’s my guy
Rex brothers is still out there too
49 needs to be signable
They can shoot the moon at 53.
Sanchez on the draft
“I definitely had no idea I’d be in consideration for the fourth pick.”
http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/default.aspx
rolls eyes
He’d been living under a rock, apparently.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Or there was a “feign surprise” clause in the contract they’ve already negotiated.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Shhh
Jorge, you are supposed to say — “I knew I was the 3rd best player in this draft. That’s why I’m accepting less than slot money.”
i hate to say it but the more great players that go off the bored and we had the 4th pick and we picked tony sanchez? come on how can they justify that? with such great pitching in the draft say wat you want but if the pirates never picked him he would still be on the board!
I am no fan of Sanchez.....
but saying the pitching was great is an overstatement. Plus HS pitching is such a cr@p shoot. Emphasis on the cr@p. I just was hoping for Borchering if they were going for signability and a bat because I think the Bucs need power in the system.
Name was mentioned here before...
Yankees may be ready to pop Slade Heathcott, via a pre-draft deal
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there ya go.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Raymond Fuentes drafted by Bo Sox
Dragggggggggggggg
Oh. That was the one pick where I was away from the computer.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
#16, ARIZ.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
good ...
for some reason, i didn’t want to see the cubs get him after we failed to sign him.
by RetireNutting on Jun 9, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Eff the Cubs.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, Retire-
sorry we didn’t make it Friday. I was wiped out (shoulder & elbow prollems)… you on Sunday morning? What time you guys open?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Bucs need catchers pretty bad....
Could they take Bailey at 49 despite the elbow?
I'd like to have Josh Phegley
provided his bat moves to a corner somewhere in the field.
Hm...
only 1 catcher taken so far.
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15 minutes?
Why the hell do they need that much time?
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"Bud"
break.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I ended up deciding on
obviously the guys that picked early (like the Pirates) fell asleep after their pick watching Selig
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Hmmmm
I thought the Rockies might go for Schneppers.
Mario strikes out
The Universe is restored to balance.
That SF he got in the first is Mario’s best offensive play of the month.
"Bud?"
Miller & St. Louis are mutually exclusive terms.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
They say their coverage is done?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah – it’s still online. I thought when they said they were switching over…
Didn’t know they meant teevee.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
arms
lots of good arms still out there
Garrett Gould
Rex Brothers
Andy Oliver
James Paxton
Tyler Skaggs (my hope)
Colton Cain
Scheppers
Wil Myers is still availabe
don’t think he’ll make it to us though
I guarantee you one thing
Tony Sanchez would’ve got picked 27 by Seattle with ss nick franklin at 33
God
these MLB guys are horribly boring.
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from the description
looks similar to robbie grossman. Might project better as an OF
I like the MLB network
unlike the NLFN & ESPN on the NFL draft, they actually talk about the later (after 1st rounder) picks
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Canadian playin for his national team
good for him
Not sure we should even if we can. He’s yet to really prove he is healthy….thus the reason he’s dropping.
Right . . .
I agree, just curious if he signed that waiver thingy.
How good is
Andrew Oliver (P, Ok. State)?
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not great
5-6 5.58era 15starts 81ip 84hits 33bb 91k’s
heard OK State is a difficult pitchin enviroment
Hm..
just wondering, cuz BA has him as the 2nd best P left, behind Scheppers
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Fast action now
This is the draft I know and love.
#42 Angels
Garrett Richards, P, Oklahoma
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Reds
Brad Boxberger, P, USC
(Jeremy Affeldt = comp pick?)
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where are you getting this info? I’ve got drafttracker up and it’s a couple picks behind you.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching it on
mlb.com
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2009/draftlive_app.jsp
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Weird. Was watching that too. Must’ve just been lagging.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, not sure
that’s staying up, but the drafttracker I have open (also mlb.com) is behind by 4 picks
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#46 (almost 49) Twins
P Matt Bashore, Indiana
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draft eligible junior from Dallas Baptist
signbility IMO since they have to sign that pick
College (last year, I assume)
1-6, 4.97 ERA
7.1 K/9
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per Sickles
Victor Black, Dallas Baptist: STRENGTHS: Can hit 95 MPH; good slider, made strides with changeup, dominating performances this spring. WEAKNESSES: Was ineffective in previous seasons due to command problems; stamina could be an issue; like Arnett, he’s made a lot of progress in a short time but needs to prove he can sustain
I’ve already got that in the post, if you refresh it.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I got 10 things goin on at once
thanks for the heads up though
Bill Virdon is cool,
even if he can’t pronounce “Temecula.”
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They are
Drafting guys just based on the coolness of their names.
Brooks Pounders
6-5, 240
Brooks “Quarter” Pounders
BP doesn't like Black
I’m just not in the Black camp, especially if Pittsburgh has any hope in keeping him as a starter. This is a guy that was 12-15, 4.64 ERA during three seasons at Dallas Baptist, and while he’s mid 90s with an occasional plus curve, he rarely has an idea where it’s going. It looked like it might be getting better this season, but Black’s numbers took a hard left turn in his final four starts: 27 hits, 22 strikeouts, 16 walks, 7.36 ERA in 22 innings.
So we got the Right-handed version of Mike Felix?
Color me disappointed
Yeah, I posted a link here
http://sportsbabble.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/pick-49-p-victor-black-dallas-baptist-university/
at least someone out there views him more as a late-inning reliever (but not a closer)
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that's what I was thinking
a reliever who without command won’t even reach AAA
Back to Pounders
per SI
considered signable if he goes within the first three rounds
All about signibility tonight.
I wouldn’t say that really. Pounders is a liget pitcher…heck he was going to USC. Just because he said he would sign if he gets picked in the first three rounds doesn’t mean he isn’t any good.
That said
if you’re going to beat last year’s 32/50, you need to sign players. Consider him one more that they’ll sign.
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I like the second two picks, myself.I feel like they’re much more quality than Sanchez.
Also, Pounders is the best last name for a pitcher ever.
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Pounders scouting report...
Large framed right hander with live and strong arm, fastball low to near mid 90s with good life goes with quality breaking ball and changeup. Also a right handed power hitter.
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Pounders info from BA
Brooks Pounders RHP Temecula Valley Calif.
Among California preps, Temecula Valley High righthander Brooks Pounders has split scouts more than any other player. Pounders’ father Brad was a star at UC Riverside and played in the Padres farm system in the 1980s. Brooks is a jumbo-sized 6-foot-5, 240-pounder, who despite his intimidating size is not a fireballer. Instead, he has a feel for four pitches and advanced secondary stuff. His fastball ranges from 88-90 mph, peaking at 91. He throws both a tight curveball and hard slider, both of which have plus potential, and rounds out his repertoire with a changeup. Pounders’ frame is not projectable, so he doesn’t figure to throw much harder in the future. His fastball is fairly straight, and his command can be inconsistent. Those factors may combine to depress Pounder’s draft position, and if he slides he’ll end up at Southern California.
Black from BA
Victor Black RHP Dallas Baptist Texas
Black may have cemented his status as Texas’ top college prospect when he outpitched two of his main challengers, Texas A&M’s Brook Raley and Alex Wilson, in front of a crowd of scouts in late April. Black allowed just one hit in the first six innings before tiring, topping out at 96 mph and sitting at 92-94. His fastball is pretty straight because he throws from a high three-quarters slot, and his control sometimes deserts him, but he has pitched in the mid-90s throughout the season. Black has improved his mechanics and command significantly from a year ago, when he struggled mightily at Dallas Baptist (1-6, 4.97) and in the Cape Cod League (0-4, 7.01). He had a good curveball as a freshman but lost it in 2008, and he now throws a slider. It has good tilt when he stays balanced over the rubber, and it was sharp against the Aggies.His changeup has been more effective this year, but it will require work in pro ball. His 6-foot-4, 204-pound frame is built for durability. The velocity and progress Black has shown this season could carry him into the end of the first round.
Here is what www.perfectgame.org says about Pounders
Brooks Pounders is a 2009 3B/P with a 6’5’’, 220 lb. frame from Temecula, CA who attends Temecula Valley HS. Brooks has a big country strong build and is a very talented two way prospect. He has always shown a power bat and in the metrodome he showed a big power arm to go with it. He has always been able to pitch but made a huge jump from touching 90 before to now pitching 90-94. He was absolutely dominant in his inning of work with three strike outs of the 3 hitters he faced. His breaking ball and change were very good and he showed excellent command of three pitches. He also showed his big power potential at the plate with good leverage and strength in his swing. The ball flies off his bat when centered. Brooks is a very interesting 2009 for scouting departments to follow. He is a good student and has verbally committed to the USC Trojans. Aflac All American
meanwhile...
our PBC major league squad is working its best towards the #1 pick about this time next year…
Bryce Harper!
“We passed up Harper because we felt like we could get guys who aren’t nearly as good, but we can get more of them!”
what else is new?
Next year we’ll end up paying $ to watch the MLB Draft online.
Color me disappointed
So far this could be a DL/Creech draft.
I knew 49 had to be signable, but Black is far from exciting. Even Pounders seems like a signability pick alhough at least not an experienced college reach with no upside.
Pounders isn’t really supposed to be a projectable arm, so I’m not sure he’s a super high-upside pick either.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
so really we drafted a C and 2 relievers.
I’m sorry but I’m really disappointed tonight in Neal and the crew
Really only in body type. His body looks like Broxton’s. His pitching style is apparently nothing like Broxton’s.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone is a reliever
It’s Black.
At least Pounders has pretty decent arsenal of pitches.
I had that problem too. I had to reload it.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Alex Wilson
excellent hard-thrower from Texas A&M via Winthrop and a native of Hurricane, W.VA
Neal missed out on that pick (puke)
Interesting
Hurricane’s got a great Class AAA program.
Tommy Lasorda is lame, but these surrogate announcers are pretty awesome. Fred McGriff? Devon White? Awesome.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 9, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
does anyone else think...
the compensatory pick system that was installed to help out small market teams stay competitive and promote parity has backfired? All the bigtime teams like Cubs, Yanks, and Sox collect the type A FAs and end up w/ extra picks…
Billy Williams
looks good.
Sweetest swing ever.
Well, maybe behind Ted Williams, but I never saw Ted play. I saw Billy.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
Wow.
If looking at some of the birthdays of the guys drafted made me feel old, you just made me feel young.
by IAPiratesFan on Jun 9, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
There's always
someone older than you, and someone younger.
;-)
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So
Snell gets skipped?
Was it his turn?
Morton to start against his old team – good idea?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ah. right.
That’s why Karsty was out in the pen.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No debate from me there, amigo.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I for one don’t see this as another Bullington or Moskos; after all, if I remember correctly, everyone with a brain though those two were garbage. Sanchez at least has potential to turn up above average.
This draft is poor so far IMO
Maybe not a DL/Creech disaster, but I am disappointed none the less because I had hope. Silly me.
I think it was Callis who said...
this was worse than Moskos. Moskos was the #9 prospect ranked by BA (#5 pitcher) that year. So while they took someone other than Wieters, some people thought he was a top 10 pick.
Neal was the only one who thought that about this Jorge/Tony.
by hisjazziness on Jun 9, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I will disagree with this....
If Calis said this is worse than Moskos then I think he is a fool simply because their was no one remotely close to Weiters available at four in this draft. I don’t care if Moskos was considered top ten. Moskos over Weiters was insane. Sanchez over those available tonight was a reach. Yet not totally ridiculous. Still, I am very disappointed.
yup.
Hey – aside – are you working Sunday?
Sorry we didn’t make it Fri. nite.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
cf2..
yep. Sunday morning bloody shift from 11-4 and then off to the Passion Pit show.
by RetireNutting on Jun 9, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna try to make it Sun. You’ll recognize me easily.
;-)
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds good...
hopefully i’m not too hungover and the bloody mary mix is up to par this sunday…
by RetireNutting on Jun 9, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, if it ain't...
you’ll be the second to know.
;-)
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't he go to the same HS
as Andrew McCutchen?
Does anyone....
know anything about him. He seems like a pretty decent pick. I really hope we have a much better second day though.
Teams passed on him because of his size....
I think it was a pretty good 3rd round pick given he has a lot of upside. Overall, I’m not too impressed with day one. I think we reached with every single pick. I’m not totally disappointed I just think we could have done better in every round.
All signabilty, all the time.....
Really a sh!tty first day….. Couldn’t have been worse IMO.
Hasta, amigos.
Have a beer, take a deep breath, and take the long view.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
We need...
a telescope to take the view that management wants.
SOS DD
Same Old Sh!t. Different Day.
Time for me to get on Nutting/Coonely/Huntington. Not sure whose doing this was, but the Pirates first day of the draft was beyond disappointing. It was as much of a of mediocrity/signability fest as any McClatchy/FL/Creech draft. At least so far.
Sorry, DL
Meant DL.
Watching the Pens is confusing me…….
Chambers from BA
Evan Chambers OF Hillsborough (Fla.) CC Fla.
Originally committed to Florida after prepping in the Lakeland, Fla., area, Chambers wound up at Hillsborough CC after getting just eight at-bats in 2008 for the Gators. At 5-foot-9, 215 pounds, he has been getting compared to Kirby Puckett and Kevin Mitchell since his high school days for his short, thick, strong body. He’s athletic and an above-average runner, which explains in part why he was a 19th-round pick of the Rockies out of high school in 2007. Chambers’ thick frame helps him generate surprising raw power, which played with wood last summer, when he hit seven homers in the New England Collegiate League with Keene (N.H.). His speed helps him play a passable center field, and his arm is below-average but good enough for center. The whole question with Chambers is how he’ll hit as a pro, as he has bat speed and has shown the ability to hit good velocity. He also has a choppy swing and some issues with pitch recognition. Scouts that think Chambers will learn to lay off breaking balls out of the dirt could push for him in the first five rounds, leaving those who doubt his bat and have him turned in as a sixth-to-10th rounder missing their chance.
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