Cubs vs. Pirates, 1 July 2009
Chicago Cubs at Pittsburgh Pirates, Jul 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Garrett Jones at #3! Wow.
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MOSS! & Jones in the 3-hole! Wow!
Pirates lineup:
1. Andrew McCutchen (CF)
2. Freddy Sanchez (2B)
3. Garrett Jones (LF)
4. Adam LaRoche (1B)
5. Brandon Moss (RF)
6. Ramon Vazquez (3B)
7. Jason Jaramillo ©
8. Jack Wilson (SS)
9. Virgil Vasquez (RHP)
Cubs lineup:
1. Sam Fuld (LF)
2. Ryan Theriot (SS)
3. Derrek Lee (1B)
4. Milton Bradley (RF)
5. Jake Fox (3B)
6. Kosuke Fukodome (CF)
7. Geovany Soto ©
8. Andres Blanco (2B)
9. Randy Wells (RHP)
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
Can I still
call him Angry Jack? Even if he has apologized because his wife told him to stop acting like a child?
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You don't follow the Cubs for a few weeks
and you don’t know half the names anymore.
weak-hitting corner outfielder in coffee league baseball
Still think McCutchen is the one regular who most needs the day off.
His nickname is “Cutch” not “Crutch,” JR.
(Watch him go 5 for 5 now tonite just to show me up.)
Jeff Salazar has played CF for Indy since Cutch came up and should be available tonight for the PBC.
oh ya
I was getting worried.
but we are very corner OF heavy, which means we have a lot of fat asses that should be good hitters
When are we going to trade Cutch now
TV pregame just showed
that Moss is hitting .301 at home and has .441 slugging pct. Maybe he should play every game at home…
well he never plays on the road
Coaching is very inconsistent. In baseball sometimes you need time to get going. and when you do get going you need to keep going and not get benched.
When are we going to trade Cutch now
Did he really get 12 years?
Isn’t that kinda… insane?
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With the current NHL salary cap and how that works, what some teams are doing now is signing players to these very long term contracts, where the players would get a similar total figure to a deal with less years, but with the longer deal the team’s cap hit will be a lot less.
Then in the latter half or so of the contract, the team can either buy out the rest of the contract to get some of the cap space back, or if the player is over 35 and retires, I’ve heard the rest of the contract is either just nulled or it at least doesn’t count against the cap. One of those.
Of course this is mostly theory, we’ll have to see how these type of contracts actually end up working out in the long run/
So kinda like the NFL
where they give guys 5 year contracts and then buy them out after like 2?
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I guess
Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention, as per the TSN article “The contract is front-loaded with about $59.3 million paid out over the first eight years, and $3.5 million total for the final four years.” So it’s almost like they are giving him that eight year deal for almost $60 mil, which is a bit more reasonable.
But yeah, I’m sure that NHL GMs are trying to take as many cues as they can from the NFL in terms of salary caps workarounds that can be done similar in both leagues.
Yeah
that said, 8 years is still insane.
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He would have made eight million if he signed with the Oilers last year, seven with the Pens.
Oh well.
I wonder who the Blackhawks will lose to in the Finals this year?
by Suffering Buc on Jul 1, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
HEy the Pirates are a topic for the MLB Network
first time since 1996 that they have had a winning record in the month of JUNE
When are we going to trade Cutch now
its always fun when the team gets mentioned on TV like a real club
When are we going to trade Cutch now
That's almost a record...
6 pitches to go 2 runs down.
who had the jack?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonofabitch!
I go down to put stuff in the dryer right before 1st pitch, and we’re down, 21-0?
srsly, wtf?
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Maybe you should've gone to
Lake Michigan…
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HA!
no shit, eh?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
2-0. whatevs.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
might as well be.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
his thinking is
with this offense (6 runs in the last 3 games), we’re done.
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Cutch
will get that day off soon. But not now.
5 doubles & 5 triples in less than a month.
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For those Jason Bay lovers...
he’s the proud owner of a Platinum Sombrero this afternoon.
It's better
than a dirty sanchez…
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
damn, that was bang-bang
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
what’s this I hear about Nyjer Morgan being traded to the Nats?!?
:P
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nope.
He’s too important off the field.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You're kidding, right?
We’re trading a cornerstone player there?
We better have gotten Zimmerman in return
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No good
overrated. too fat. probably won’t amount to much.
i think someone like kip wells would be a much better fit
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or, if we want a position player
ty wigginton
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Is it wrong
that my favorite Pirate of all time is Mike “Spanky” Lavalliere? I’m not even joking here…
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fans in attendance
dunno about the rest of you but i went toPNC the last two days and it really seemed like the ratio of cubs fans to bucs fans was almost equal.
Last game I attended was a Bucs-Cubs game last year… It was awful. Everyone in my section was a Cubs fan.
i was surrounded
down the first base line and felt like an outsider in our own home park. not too good pittsburgh, not too good
The place
sure looks empty on teevee.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the FO...
has actually pissed off the casual fan?
Might have more to do with the weather?
Whaddaya say, Thunder?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me look...
hadn’t been paying attention to that.
See? See how you are? ;-)
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hadn't been watching weather closely.
Have been on vacation for the last 10 days…although how I spent the middle of it wasn’t fun. I go back at midnight tonight…so I actually have to start looking at what’s going on again.
Glad to hear
you’re doing better.
I go in for arthroscopic surgery on my shoulder on the 20th.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope
they get your problem taken care of…although I am sure the PT afterward won’t be real comfortable.
Thx.
we’ll see… I may do most of my rehabbing at home.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You should do therapy
I had arthroscopic surgery on my shoulder in December. It heals just fine at home but I didn’t get any endurance back in it until I started to go to PT. It sucks, but now I can play tennis again.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 1, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends.
I did 3 weeks of PT & Ultrasound Cortisone because my OS wanted me to see if it would get better (and because I’m a p_ _ _y about getting a shot & wouldn’t let him give me cortisone), without surgery, then 3 weeks later declared that cortisone wouldn’t do any good, and that I needed the surgery.
I was all like, “I could’ve had this 3 weeks ago & be ready to golf by the middle of August!”
Grrrr.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the feeling
Same thing for me. A month of therapy, then they have me get an MRI to find out my labrum is torn and I need surgery. Went to the doctor in September and actually got the surgery in December. Just went back for my other shoulder and they tried to put me through the same thing, I said no just do an MRI.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 1, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah.
had the MRI over a month ago. Doc thinks it’s a labrum tear, rotator cuff, AND arthritis.
Yowza.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy that's fun
Just tore both labrums for me, too young for arthritis yet. Unfortunately I have to live with my left one being torn till next summer when I get back from college. If they had done the MRI when I went I would’ve had both done already.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah
the arthritis is awesome. He’s going to shave a few millimetres off my collarbone.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I’m sure I’ll get there eventually.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess that...
the forecast could have had a little to do with it. But I don’t see them having any problems getting it in.
casual fans:
better to be pissed off than pissed on, I always say.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
A rolling Moss
gathers no stone.
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Good thing he’s not a “cornerstone” player
by pittbluedevil on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I need a Vlad ruling on this, but I’m pretty sure the Nat’s GM is an idiot.
There is only one “cornerstone” per building. Morgan and Burnett can’t both be “cornerstones” for the Nats.
I believe...
Vlad is still out of pocket…since we haven’t seen his $0.02 on the trade. Even if you could have 2 cornerstones…Morgan and Burnett aren’t going to be those…unless you want the building collapsing at the end of a season or two.
Jo Dee Messina
COMING TO THE GAME AUGUST 1ST!!! i hope maybe they have fireworks that night 2!!!!!
I think
that was the night they were originally going to give away the iRomulo! bobbleheads, too…
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
saw the commercial again...
it’s ridiculous how many times I’m going to have to suffer through that until that concert…..
However, I had countless friends ask if I was going to the game the night Zack Brown Band played. I guess it sells seats.
Coming into tonight’s game Ramon Vazquez was hitting .256/.363/.267 in 102 AB. That is 1 double, 0 triples, and 0 home runs. Your Buccos’ #6 hitter.
STILL better than CGz.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well duh
Vazquez has 2 Zs, gomez has 1.
It’s all about the Z’s man
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The middle of the lineup is still somewhat of a mystery to JR.
I think on JR’s lineup card, somewhere between the cleanup and number 6 spot, it says “Here Be Dragons”
JR = member of Flat Earth Society:

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
lastings!
is thrilled to death to come to pitts. thats how low his career has fallen
More like
how glad he is to get the f#&^ out of DC.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I think his ‘issues’ were way overblown though.
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how do you know?
were you in the mets and nats club house?
No
but it seems like everything was about him
1- high-5’ing fans after hitting his 1st career home run
2- not starting off well after being moved to CF by the Nats
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Wells...
not that good. We should be able to jump all over his sheaut.
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Angry Jack
not feeling so angry today
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listening to 104.7 after the game
last night and jack called in from his car and really tried to make up for his initial comments and sounded more relaxed about it after the game.
Yeah
he says he talked to his wife and she let him know it could be taken negatively
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C'mon, now...
Jack apologized. It has nothing to do with being traded, or re-signing.
He’s a TEAM guy.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
He was angry yesterday
and scored a run.
He’s not angry today, and he hit into his 3 DP of the season
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I Like How Jack Wilson Routinely Trashes His Own Team, And He's A Team Guy
But Lastings Milledge was late for a meeting once and gave some fans some high fives and he’s a Clubhouse Cancer.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but he is such a team guy that he trashes the team when the split up the team
….like a REAL team guy
what?
is a major league baseball player supposed to have no emotions? he was just saying how these trades affect the clubhouse and the team camaraderie
I disagree
This kind of stuff just stirs up trouble. Jack is a vet. One that was acquired via a trade.
Even Jack has to realize that NyjMo isn’t much of a player. At least not much of a potential player at 29 to improve too much. I wonder if this trade just “blindsided” him, and he didn’t have a prepared comment regarding it.
Yeah, but
NyjMo would’ve made 15 friends on the way to the ball
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True
Nyjer also would have had a much bigger smile while catching it,
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hudson: Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?
Vasquez: No. Have you?
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couple well hit balls
lined right to the cubs OFers
I think
I miss having Luigi in the line-up.
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We need to scrap the whole "vets on the bench" thing
(half way there with the Hinske trade) and get players that can actually hit when called upon.
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Our games
have been flying by this year… I guess half-decent pitching + meager Pirates offense = quick games
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Good until you tuned in
:P
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just threw away a pickoff right when you asked.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Green_Wave is kidding
turn it off now.
If you wanna follow, use gamecast or something.
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just out of
Jack’s reach.
GRRRR.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to WVU
but I’ll never be able to set foot in Morgantown again :(
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YOU
are on a roll tonite, sir.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Just setting up the GIDP
… please…
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DLEE
hits more GIDP than ANYone.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
see? ;-)
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You know who else used to hit into a lot of double plays...
sniff sniff…sob…
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Come on man
get a hold of yourself.
Monroe was DFA’d a while ago (and released today, but still)
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We’re gonna hafta adjust
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Karsty up in the 'pen
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A can of lima beans would have laid down a better bunt, tbqh…
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Be fair...
Lima beans don’t have the DH when they’re coming up.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
we could call Snell back up just to ride the bench as designated bunter
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Oops
just saw that he got a hit… my cat was in my way
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Yeah.
your “cat.”
pffft.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I can do
Google Image Search, too.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No way, dude
that’s Molly and she’ll swallow your soul.
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Go ahead, raise the blinds...see what it gets you.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
watch freddy
strand these two runners. after his 6 lob on monday
probably because
… we have a AAA callup in the (^&%&*% 3 hole!!!???
damn it!
And Jack, you need to be angrier!
ANGRIER!
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Beasley!
Suck on Deez(ley)!
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Did anyone hear...
Andy McCutchen said that he’s going to catch anything hit over his head unless it’s outta the park?
The guys on TV just told me.
Nyjer taught him that
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Blah
Fukodo-me :(
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The one critique on Vasquez...
before he came up…was the propensity for the gopher ball. Looks like someone knew what they were talking about.
All joking aside
Nyjer probably would have had that one…
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Lol
I started a joke twice, honestly… then realized jokes were aside
Jones
trying to do a whole season of playing in his first game.
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good effort
does nyjer get that? it did seem like he was inappropriately shaded towards center
IBB
to get to the pitcher.
Ian Snelll is probably killing someone right now.
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Lucky-ass break there
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lol
Pinella ejected?!? Well there’s something I’ve never seen before…
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see below comment.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually,
the Chicago media has been all over Pinella for the past week about how he’s “lost his fire.”
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At least he has fire...
to lose…unlike a certain manager in the other dugout.
If it fires the team up
sure, why not?
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Of course this comes from someone...
who’s main purpose at ESPN Radio is to create conflict to attract listeners on his show. That’s one show on ESPN Radio that I refuse to listen to.
not necessarily...
but it can be used to the teams advantage on occasion. Just can’t do it too often.
And sometimes, it's just fun to see
like the minor league guy who went as far as to treat the powder sack behind the pitchers mound as a grenade. Fun to watch.
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And sometimes, it's nice for the team to know
that the manager isn’t backing down, and has their backs.
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WTF
How is he out? I thought the count was 2-1… foul and then the tag?
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yup.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair ball.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
the Pirates
tied for last in the league in HRs again (counting McLouth, NyjMo, Hinske & Monroe)
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Just a thought...
Moss played a few games at first base last year for the Bo Sox. I think he should take over once LaRoche is traded.
i suppose JR should have come out and argued about that laroche call? then would we have scored a few runs?
I didn't disagree
I was just confused. I didn’t see the tag until the replay.
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He was definitely out.
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VV
6 innings, 3 runs.
Not ideal with this offense, and it’ll probably drop his record to 1-1.
But at least they didn’t hammer him for a ton of runs.
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Hanrahan, welcome to the PBC DP Factory!
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Now that he's on OUR team,
I guess the “Hanrahan” comments from Slap Shot are out of bounds…

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Careful...
he isn’t used to actually having a defense behind him.
hit 95
at least once.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
All things considered
nice inning.
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Hanrahan
K!
Not a bad inning. Now for the offense to show up and take V-squared out of the loss colum
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Moskos
named to Eastern League ASG.
huhwha?
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
DY
to hit for Hanrahan
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We need a better back-up IF
than Vazquez. I know he’s got ‘veteran’-ship and all, but really… we don’t need it.
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We could trade for
Donnie Kelly – he’s lookin’ ripped and playing reasonably well as a utility man for Jim Leyland
Evenin' all
At the risk of hoeing rowed ground, did anyone notice that
NyjMo was not in the Nats line up today and it looks like Sean gave up a home run?
Good evening.
yup.
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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Overflow thread is up. You can take your drink there.
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