News Roundup: Draft Picks Make Good Debuts, Bucs Sign Third-Rounder

by Charlie on Jul 1, 2009 4:38 PM EDT Comment 22 comments

Pirates Sign Third-Round Pick Evan Chambers

The Bucs have signed outfielder Evan Chambers, a third-round pick from Hillsborough Community College in Florida, and sent him to State College. Chambers, despite being a third-rounder, isn't one of the really high-upside picks in the draft, but of course it's nice to have him aboard.

Top picks hit mound for first time as Spikes stumble | Penn State News | Sports - Centre Daily Times

Second-round pick Victor Black, 11th-rounder Aaron Baker, and 21st-rounder Phillip Irwin all played well in their pro debuts for the State College Spikes yesterday. Black pitched one inning and struck out two batters, throwing all fastballs that came in as hard as 95 MPH. The Pirates will try having him pitch longer stretches as the season goes on. Of course, college draftees like these three should perform well all the way down at State College, but it's still nice to see them actually do it. It appears the residents of Central Pennsylvania will be spared another 18-56 debacle this year.

Pittsburgh Pirates players question timing of trades - ESPN

Really? Jack Wilson didn't like the Pirates' trades? Shocking. I don't think ESPN even had anything about the Morgan/Milledge deal in their sidebar yesterday hours after the trade happened, but apparently, uninvolved players' reactions to the trade were front page news. Jack Wilson's complete lack of perspective is pretty funny, though. Bad teams trade older players for younger ones to build for the future. It's really not that hard to understand. If he's seen this kind of thing for years and not like it, maybe he could've, you know, not signed an extension. UPDATE: Just saw that Jett has a fanpost about this.) UPDATE: Wilson apologizes for his remarks.

Buster Olney: The MLB trade market goes bear - ESPN

Olney, meanwhile, calls the Eric Hinske trade a salary dump. It's weird--I don't know how trading a little-used veteran player for a reasonable, if unspectacular, prospect return and giving the Yankees cash makes the Pirates thrifty, but then I don't have a roomful of colorful phones.

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On Jack

I can understand how he as a player wouldn’t love trades like this. Restocking the minor league system really does nothing for him. He’ll be out of baseball (or at least out of Pittsburgh) by the time they come up. Even if he knows logically that these moves are for the best, it sucks for him personally. I get that.

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by Sixty Feet, Six Inches on Jul 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m just throwing this out there, Elijah Dukes was demoted to AAA to make room for Morgan. He seems like a good young talent albeit with maybe some minor caveats like Milledge. Would it be worth it to call the Nats and maybe try to claim for pennies on the dollar?

by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 1, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’d probably give Moss and another reliever or something like that…

by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 1, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

Wouldn’t do it, myself.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why give up Moss?

They’d probably take less.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 1, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Delwyn + RP? I’d honestly be ringing Marc Rizzo’s phone off the hook.

by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 1, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Dukes' "minor caveats"

outweigh Milledge’s.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So does his power though…

by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 1, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NO! We have too many outfielders as it is right now. We don’t need anymore. We need some middle infielders.

by mspirate on Jul 1, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can never have too much of anything when it comes to talent.

by matskralc on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

“Too many outfielders” is when you have 3 above-average ones at the major league level (or at every level, if you’re taking about the whole system). Right now there is one, and maybe when Milledge is up it is two, but that isn’t too many.

by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, people are so used to us having absolutely nothing that when we have a little-bit-more-than-nothing, it seems like a lot.

by matskralc on Jul 2, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

More signing:

The Pirates have signed third-round Draft pick Evan Chambers. He has been assigned to begin his professional career with short season State College. Chambers, 20, is a center fielder drafted from Hillsborough (Fla.) Community College.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the tip.

by Charlie on Jul 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is not a picture of me, but...

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

After consulting Mrs Wilson...

Jack has apologised for last night’s ‘negative’ outburst.

According to Colin Dunlap at the P-G:

http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/archive/2009/07/01/wilson-apologizes-for-post-trade-remarks.aspx

by RDV across the sea on Jul 1, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Also, Jack Apologizes:

Link here.

I definitely don’t want to be that guy who is butting heads with the organization or causing any type of negativity. I apologize for that. I haven’t talked to Neal [Huntington] or anything like that, but that’s not the player I want to be. That’s not the person I want to be for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It also says

that Jones is in the lineup, batting 3rd.

Wow.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also:

Moskos, Friday & Delaney selected for Eastern League ASG.

MOSKOS?!?!?

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 1, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um...

I hope we don’t have to ask forgiveness of DL or something.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 1, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not Dukes

Milledge high fived fans. Dukes threatened to kill the mother of his children, assaulted teammates and threatened others. Pretty different. Why would you want to employ the same strategy that the Nationals just tried? Milledge is one thing, but no thanks to importing the entire “toolsy bad character” portion of the Nationals outfield

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by GTrain on Jul 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Nationals haven’t given either Milledge or Dukes much of a chance. This would be the quintessential low-risk, high-reward move for the Pirates. His price is probably low enough to be worth one of the Bucs’ filler types, maybe someone even lower than Moss.

What it would mean is the Bucs would end up with 2 of the 5 most talented players in the Nats system (Strasburg and the Zimmermans are the other 3). Is there bust potential? Is there law enforcement trouble potential? Sure. But there is also star potential, which we saw last year when he hit at a 20/20 pace last year.

by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 2, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs