News Roundup: 90% Likelihood of Signing Sano?
by Charlie on Jul 14, 2009 3:32 AM EDT
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-P- ESPN's Jorge Arangure estimates that there's a 90% chance the Pirates sign Miguel Sano once his age investigation is complete. According to some of Arangure's other writing, the other two teams who were in on Sano, Baltimore and Minnesota, appear to have backed out of the race.
-P- Rinku Singh picked up his first pro win yesterday. Offensively for Bradenton, Gift Ngoepe and Wesley Freeman continue to hit well.
-P- The Nationals have fired Manny Acta, one of the game's more creative and interesting managers. The practice of firing managers in order to make them fall guys for much larger organizational problems is a cowardly one. It wasn't Manny Acta's fault the Nats are the worst team in baseball this year, just as the Pirates' continued failures weren't primarily Lloyd McClendon's fault when Dave Littlefield fired him. McClendon was far from perfect, but that's not the point.
-P- Remember when it looked like Dayton Moore was going to be a good GM? Now, not so much:
"The defensive statistics - I still really don't understand how some of those statistics are evaluated, I really don't. When you watch baseball games every single day, its very apparent who can play defensively and who can't."
"Now pardon me while I admire Yuniesky Betancourt's defense." I know defensive stats still leave a lot of questions unanswered, but there's really no excuse for an MLB GM who doesn't understand them or doesn't use them.
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John Perotto .....
must have been very bored or very drunk when posting this.
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets so a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
by gorillakilla34 on Jul 14, 2009 4:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I saw that. Goes against everything they’ve been doing. People would burn stuffed parrots in the street if they acquired Rios and his disgusting contract after dealing Nate and his affordable one. Nate has better numbers and is younger than Rios.
RIP NATE. RIP TONY PLUSH.
"I'D BE A CHEF"
-TONY PLUSH
by GTrain on Jul 14, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perrotto's piece...
…says that any deal would require the Jays to pick up a large chunk of Rios’s money, so under that assumption the contract is a non-issue.
Depending on how much money was being picked up, I’d think about that deal. Rios is a very good buy low opportunity right now.
by Vlad on Jul 14, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good link
I’ve always liked Rios’ potential. The question is, how the hell are the Blue Jays able to spend as much as they do? According to ESPN, blue jays rank 26th in attendance. They just dumped Ryan, to dump him. They still got to pay him the money….don’t get it
by Danatural08 on Jul 14, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Contract info below. It’s all backloaded with him making at least 12 mil a year for the last 4 years or age 31-35 (let’s ignore the 15 million dollar club option when he’ll be 36). They would have to be picking up an insane amount of this deal for this to make sense, based on length of contract alone for us. Would they really pick up say 40 of the 62 million? With all of our young outfield talent, using one of our more valuable trade chips for an OF who is underachieving in his late 20’s doesn’t even make sense to me on it’s own, let alone the long/ expensive contract.
Alex Rios of
7 years/$69.835M (2008-14), plus 2015 club option
* 7 years/$69.835M (2008-14), plus 2015 club option
o signed extension with Toronto 4/4/08, re-working 2008 deal signed 2/5/08 ($3.5M signing bonus remains, 2008 salary reduced from $1.335M to $0.735M)
o 08:$0.735M, 09:$5.9M, 10:$9.7M, 11:$12M, 12:$12M, 13:$12.5M, 14:$12.5M, 15:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout)
o full no-trade clause, 2009-10
o limited no-trade clause, 2011 – end of deal (may block trades to 6 clubs)
RIP NATE. RIP TONY PLUSH.
"I'D BE A CHEF"
-TONY PLUSH
by GTrain on Jul 14, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize for responding before looking at the link.
Still though, even if it is a decent contract for a very good player, it is still a huge financial commitment (for a small team like us) for a guy who I don’t think really fits in ideally with our time frame.
RIP NATE. RIP TONY PLUSH.
"I'D BE A CHEF"
-TONY PLUSH
by GTrain on Jul 14, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Henry Schulman of The San Francisco Chronicle says:
“I keep hearing one version of a possible Giants deal for Pirates second baseman Fred Sanchez expanded to include Duke, too.”
He speculates that an Injury to Randy Johnson has Sabean wanting to aquire more depth in the starting rotation in SF. Wouldn’t that be crazy? The Pirates actually have 2 all stars this year and deal both to the team they play immediately after the all star break.
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets so a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
by gorillakilla34 on Jul 14, 2009 4:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In Return from the Giants?
I too have read about the possibility of Duke being included in a possible Freddy Sanchez…frankly the return would need to be very high for that to make sense in my mind…Other than Jonathon Sanchez and Buster Posey, who do the Giants have that would be worthwhile?
by Mick Kraut on Jul 14, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bumgarner, Alderson, Villalona are definitely worthwhile.
by wickethewok on Jul 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry, but if we give up Sanchez AND Duke in a package, we have to get Bumgardner back in return. But having said that, if this Bumgardner guy is so good, then why don’t the Giants just call him up already and put him in the rotation? I know he’s young (19 or 20) and they probably don’t want to throw a rookie into the middle of a Wild Card race, but if they’ve got Bumgardner, why do they want Duke?
by mspirate on Jul 14, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s not even the slightest chance they’ll get him in return for Sanchez and Duke.
by GL9 on Jul 14, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. If you’re going to package your two All-Stars together in a trade, you have to get at least one of other team’s top two prospects. I mean, you’re right, we probably won’t be getting Bumgardner, but you dang sure better be getting the next best prospect on the list.
by mspirate on Jul 14, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Bagwell For Larry Anderson
These kinds of trades do happen.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it possible? Sure.
But it’s very unlikely. It’d be a stupid move for the Giants to make, and while your opponents sometimes do make stupid moves, planning on your opponent making a stupid move is only rarely a viable strategy.
by Vlad on Jul 14, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get too......
hung up on the fact that these guys are All-Stars. Look at their performance and their contract and then make an evaluation. We aren’t getting either of their top two prospects.
by dtoddwin on Jul 14, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes..
No way the Giants deal him for those two… This young man is a stud pitcher..
If Phillies are hard pressed trading Drabek for a stud like Halladay, no way we get a guy like Bumgardner for a singles hitter and a up and down pitcher.
by psunate77 on Jul 14, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"A singles hitter" ?!?
You don’t mean Freddy, tied for 2nd in the NL & 5th in MLB in doubles, do you?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 14, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be thrilled to get Bumgardner and a futility infielder for Sanchez and Duke.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can wish for Bumgarner in one hand a pour toilet water in the other; only one is going to be filled.
by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there’s a 90% chance that there’s a 5% chance of some of this Sano speculation having some validity.
by WTM on Jul 14, 2009 7:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The "C" Word
I think it’s kind of weird that as the Sano thing continues to drag on that teams are falling away.
One of “the greatest prospects to ever come out of Latin America” had the Bucs, O’s, and Twins on his tail. For a while, the Bosox and of course, the Yankees, getting involved. Then the Yanks, Boston, and Twins kind of dropped out. Now the O’s may be turning their attention elsewhere, leaving only the Pirates…
It almost seems as if good ‘ole boy Bud is telling everyone "hey, let the Pirates have this one. We’ve got to find some way to get them competitive".
by God Loves on Jul 14, 2009 8:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it has more to do...
…with Sano’s position as the best unsigned international propsect being usurped by that Cuban defector. Teams that were more interested in him as a status symbol than an actual prospect now have less incentive to bid.
by Vlad on Jul 14, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree....
about making managers the scapegoat for their team’s poor play,but I suppose you have to start somewhere,and as they say,you can’t fire all or most of the players. I think it’s often done just to shake things up and get fans at least talking about the team again,rather than ignoring them.
And I tend to agree about a trained eye knowing who can play defense and who can’t,stats aside…
by havildar on Jul 14, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me, or...
Are the Pirates in the process of firing all of the players?
Another old adage proved false. I’m not complaining, mind you.
Good day.
by Uncle Nate on Jul 14, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
defensive stats - bill james
Since you mention defensive stats, let me ask a question for the more stats savvy gang here. I was in a bookstore yesterday and I picked up and briefly looked at Bill James’ 2009 book. He has a section on each team with some statistical observations. On the Pirates, one thing he mentions is that, even though Wilson-Sanchez turned the most double plays in the league, they weren’t very good at turning double plays. In fact, he says the other Pirate infielders were better, citing some percentages. I didn’t have time to look at the details of the stats he was citing, and I wonder if anyone else has seen this and has some explanation. I am pretty skeptcial of any defensive metric that says that Luis Rivas and Brian Bixler were better last year at turning double plays than Wilson and Sanchez. Isn’t being able to field the ball part of the process?
by basmati on Jul 14, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Using the DP component of UZR on Fangraphs, Jack and Freddy are ranked first and second respectively among all players in 2009.
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by MBandi on Jul 14, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, quick question. I haven’t really bothered to follow defensive stats like zone rating and ultimate zone rating and whatnot before this year. But now that I’ve sort of been looking at them, I was curious about Jack Wilson ratings, specifically after he made that catch into a double play on saturday.
So I look at ESPN’s stat page and see that Jack is has like the 2nd lowest zone rating in all of baseball. I didn’t think that sounded right at all, but I couldn’t remember what site had UZR and I, well, was really too lazy to go searching for it at the time.
Ok, so now I know it’s Fangraphs so I can bookmark it and not forget it again. So now I go to look at UZR and see that Jack is the highest rated in all of baseball right now. So my actual question is, should I pretty much ignore zone rating and just look at UZR as the “best” defensive metric?
by Schide on Jul 14, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UZR is better than ZR.
You may also want to use a different PBP-based metric as a sanity check (such as Dewan’s numbers from the Fielding Bible). PBP metrics can sometimes give wildly different figures for guys who have unusual on-field positioning. Andruw Jones’s shallow CF during his Atlanta days is one notable example. There’s also the issue of the data stream from which the metric is getting its zone data, and looking at both a STATS-based model and a BIS-based model can be helpful.
If you only check one number, though, UZR is a good one to pick. Just be careful about drawing too firm of conclusions from small data samples.
by Vlad on Jul 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a thought...
I, for one, would love to have Acta as the Pirates manager. I think he would be a huge upgrade over JR in terms of basic baseball strategy, and I think that he could be good for a future team of young players.
Obviously, his record sucks, but he really can’t be blamed for that…
I'm droppin' flava, my behavior is hereditary--but my technique is very necessary.
by phillybucco on Jul 14, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One Question
Would Manny Acta hang Matt Capps out to dry like JR did the other night?
If no: Hire him now.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not certain what you guys would be writing
if JR had gone with, say, Hanrahan to face Howard and the sequence had gone BB, BB, 3 run doulbe but allow me to speculate.
Would Manny Acta replace Matt Capps in a crucial ninth inning situation like JR did the other night?
If no: Hire him now.
by WestCoastBuc on Jul 14, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Living in the DC area, I’ve followed Acta a bit and would way, way rather have him than Russell. He’s very stat- and analysis-friendly, for one thing. Of course, he’s never had the personnel to do anything he’d ilke to do. He is very low-key like Russell, but that doesn’t bother me the way it does some people. Too bad the Bucs’ FO seems so happy with Russell. Some smart GM should keep Acta’s agent on his speed dial.
by WTM on Jul 14, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actual, we have a loser
8-7, Phils. What are you missing here?
by azibuck on Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's saying that people are objecting...
…to the outcome, not Russell’s handling of the situation, and that they would’ve been
a) just fine with Russell’s handling of Capps if Capps had nailed down the win.
b) hugely pissed if Russell had yanked Capps and the replacement had blown the lead.
Which sounds about right to me.
by Vlad on Jul 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So....
What you’re saying is, Capps had pitched relatively effectively his last 19 times, but you knew this time he would suck and give up a big lead because he faced four batters, one hit a homer, one walked and one made an out. You knew this and thought Veal, Hanranhan or Meeks would be better served to close out the game.
by dtoddwin on Jul 15, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because the game turned out all right doesn’t mean that Capps pitched well in his last 19 times.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 15, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Capps' last 19 (before 7/11)
17 2/3 IP 2.55 ERA 0.91 WHIP 11K/5 BB
Not spectacular, I suppose, but I’d say it’s at least “relatively effectively”
by dirtyfrank on Jul 15, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes......
I think that would be right, but don’t confuse AJJ with any statistical information, because if he says he sucks, that’s it.
I’ve tried to point this out to him, but he is stuck on the fact that his ERA is over 6. He has repeatedly told me that his 19 ‘relatively effective’ appearances before 7/11 are meaningless.
by dtoddwin on Jul 15, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
If you pick his good games and ignore his bad ones, he seems pretty good!
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 15, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said
“Just because the game turned out all right doesn’t mean that Capps pitched well in his last 19 times.”
remember that?
the context (from above) of “last 19 times” is those 19 games before the 7/11 Philly game.
What you said was inaccurate. The statistics I posted show that.
how difficult is this to understand?
by dirtyfrank on Jul 15, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
19 innings proves nothing, especially with such a loose standard as simply not blowing the game wide open.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 15, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you read anything I've typed?
or, for that matter, anything you’ve typed?
this has been a waste of time
by dirtyfrank on Jul 15, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you read anything I’ve typed? or, for that matter, anything you’ve typed?
this has been a waste of time
This is pretty much a summary of every internet debate since the dawn of time.
Anyways, like I was saying, you suck.
charity standing orders
by BadMaafala on Jul 16, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So 19 innings is meaningless...
…and 246 innings is meaningless, but 29 innings is just right?
I’ll alert the three bears.
by Vlad on Jul 15, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The hundreds of innings from before his injury don’t matter because anyone who has been watching him can tell you that he’s not the same pitcher since the injury. His speed and movement on his fastball are gone, and he doesn’t even bother to try and throw his slider anymore.
So when you look at how he’s been performing since his injury, and include all the games, not just the ones where his team didn’t get completely blown up, you see a pitcher with horrible stats and pathetic stuff.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 16, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know any other way to evaluate a pitcher other than by looking at his stats and his stuff. If you want to do it by ignoring his stuff and only looking at his good stats while ignoring his bad ones, then fine.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 16, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen.....
Just stop. The stats that were quoted for you were for his last 19 games, not selectively chosen. Stop saying it is otherwise.
by dtoddwin on Jul 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Why Did You Pick His Last 19 Games?
Is the last 19 games a usual method of judging a pitcher’s effectiveness? What other player in another situation have you used the Last Nineteen Games Method for?
You picked the last 19 games because those are the ones where he didn’t get completely shat on. If you pick fewer games your sample size looks even more ridiculously small than it already is. If you pick more games, then you end up including some truly awful results and you don’t want to do that.
So you picked 19.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 17, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Properly Speaking
It’s not the last 19 games you’re looking at. It’s the last 19 games, except for the last one, because he got lit up in that one. You have discovered that if you pick a string of games in between the games in which Capps got blown up, you can come up with some almost reasonable sounding numbers. Congratulations.
It’s not the most arbitrary way to try and judge a pitcher, but it’s close!
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 17, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, it wasn’t a crucial ninth inning situation until Capps turned it into one. He came in with a four run lead. So the question is, if Capps is the best pitcher in the bullpen, what was he doing in there in the first place in a low-leverage situation? And if he’s not the best pitcher in the bullpen, what’s he doing showing up in all the other high-leverage situations?
JR seems to have no bullpen plan whatsoever. He doesn’t put his best pitcher in the high-leverage situations consistantly, and when a pitcher is clearly just throwing batting practice, he doesn’t pull him out.
If Capps was so bad that he should have been in with a four run lead, then there’s no way he should have stayed in once it was a tie game. It’s just that simple.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
is he was just trying to get Capps some work. Capps had pitched just twice in July, the All-Star break was coming, the likelihood of needing him on Sunday was low with V2 starting (which proved to be the case) … Capps was looking at pitching twice in half a month.
It was a good time to get him some work, but it also should have occurred to JR that for that very reason Capps might have been rusty, and to have someone else in mind if/when trouble erupted.
And yes, to the question above, I would not have had a problem if JR had yanked Capps in the middle of the meltdown, even if Hanrahan had continued it. I don’t see the point of letting the guy get hammered unless it’s a dire situation, doubleheaders and injuries where a starter has to take one for the team.
by bucdaddy on Jul 14, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this were one of the few times he was brought in during low-leverage situations, I’d agree with you. But JR’s bullpen management is all over the map. Sometimes in high-leverage situations, bad pitchers come in. And sometimes it’s good ones. And then sometimes good pitchers come in during low-leverage situations. It seems pretty random.
His lineup management is the same way. Players skills don’t dramatically change from day to day, so why does JR’s lineup? Does he actually have anything resembling a strategy?
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes, in high-leverage situations...
…bad pitchers have come in because there were no good pitchers in the pen.
JR’s lineup changes from day-to-day because he’s trying to keep all his bench players fresh, so he keeps rotating guys in and out. Wow, who’d’ve thunk it?
by Vlad on Jul 14, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not basing my decision
on a one game example. I just think JR makes questionable decisions on a regular basis… if nothing else, his reluctance to play the same line-up twice irks me.
I'm droppin' flava, my behavior is hereditary--but my technique is very necessary.
by phillybucco on Jul 14, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think many of the JR bullpen decisions are probably JK decisions.
You don’t pay top dollar to a vastly experienced pitching coach, then let the younger ex-catcher manager make all the pitching decisions.
by RDV across the sea on Jul 15, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke to Giants?
Just following up on a rumor alot of you have been hearing as well. I don’t think SFG wants Freddy as much as some sources are saying.
Some good possiblities I think include:
SFG gets: Duke/LaRoche
PIT gets: Villalona, Sosa, and Adrianza (Stud 1B power prospect, B pitching prospect, and young raw SS)
MIN gets: Freddy Sanchez and alot of his contract
PIT gets: Kevn Mulvey and Stephen Tolleson ( B pitching prospect, MLB ready prospect)
Not thinking the Pirates will be able to find adequate trade value for Jack. My guess he stays with the team for the rest of the year. Pirates will sign a cheap SS in the offseason to get us through ’10 or promote someone.
by jlk9697 on Jul 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t quite buy that the Giants are finished with Villalona, but if that is out there then I certainly wouldn’t refuse. I just don’t think LaRoche is much of an upgrade over Ishikawa. They need Freddy, not Adam.
I think this Twins deal could happen.
by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 14, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Freddy Sanchez would be a significant upgrade over anything the Giants have at 2B right now.
by mspirate on Jul 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He Would Be
But with some of the trades we’ve seen happening lately, I don’t know if making sense is a prerequisite for any trade happening.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, BUT I think “making sense” is a prerequisite for NH. He’s not going to trade away any of our players if the trade doesn’t make sense for us and improve our ballclub.
by mspirate on Jul 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but from other team’s standpoints: Who knows?!
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would just like to say that, knowing nothing about the kid other than that he smiles nice in his photo, I am 90% excited about signing Sano.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And in response to that article Jorge Arangure says
@BLZR409 I haven’t changed my opinion. Still 90 percent.
by TravisDW on Jul 14, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The above is via twitter by the way
If it matters
by TravisDW on Jul 14, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dejan then.....
comments in the blog to one of the posters: “Opinion? What does opinion have to do with it?”
Well, Dejan, when someone analyzes a binary event and puts a % likelihood of said event happening, they are almost always giving an opinion, by definition. It is going to be 0% or 100% so Jorge has been stating his opinion all along. But, his opinion is most likely based on facts that he accumulates to make said judgment.
Nothing new here. Not sure why he seems so worked up about it.
by dtoddwin on Jul 14, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dejan has caved
He makes it a point almost to gear his articles toward those who bash nutting like broken records. He used to eclude his opinion form articles now he is nothing but negative and trying to appease his readers. Arangure is far more reputable when it comes to Latin America, he is right 99% of the time.
by aso513 on Jul 14, 2009 4:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Dejan Has Caved?
Do you mean he’s changed his statement on the matter?
Link?
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to speak for him....
But I think he meant that Dejan has caved in insofar as he now basically plays to the anti-Nutting crowd. Only going negative. Whether or not he’s right is debatable however
by TravisDW on Jul 14, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No just his whole writing style
Has changed drastically he used to say he had no opinions in his columns but now it seems he brings up the past to get a rise. Such as calling Nate the pirates best player through the first half. Come on dejan go have coffee with NuttingHostage.
by aso513 on Jul 14, 2009 5:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Nutting Hostage
also known as Jake from Bucco Blog who takes every opportunity to rip DK and thensome.
by BadAndy on Jul 14, 2009 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I wish people would stop reading Jake.
His opinions are asinine, and it’s really tiresome having to rebut his points on five or six different places once they propogate through the web.
Jake is the guy who wanted Casey Rogowski to be our starting 1B in 2007. Jake is the guy who got butthurt and deleted his blog when someone pretending to be with the Pirates’ front office wrote him a mean e-mail. Jake is the guy who loved the Moskos pick at the time when it was made.
Please, please, please: Do not read Jake. And if you do, don’t believe anything he says.
by Vlad on Jul 14, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh My God I Forgot About The Word "Butthurt"
Thank you for reminding me.
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 14, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, NuttingHostage and this clown are the same guy?? That would explain so much.
by shayborg on Jul 15, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give him credit
Who else would post links to his own blog under a different pseudonym and then vouch for his own credibility?
I wonder whether there are authors who post favorable reviews of their own books on amazon.com . . . .
by WTM on Jul 15, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did I miss in Dejan's blog entry this afternoon??
Or did I misread it??
All it says is that Sano’s people are not giving credence to Arangure’s 90% figure…in colorful terms…to paraphrase Dejan…and it’s been clear that Dejan has contacted them in the past. And I’m sure that Dejan would also have the contacts to KNOW whether there are more than 2 teams still looking at Sano…and that the Pirates are still in the thick of the battle. What?? Did you all expect Dejan to mention every team still looking at him??
None of that says Sano is or isn’t going to sign with the Pirates…just that it isn’t a done deal…as some (Arangure) would have you believe. Some people are reading a lot into that entry that just isn’t there.
by Thunder on Jul 14, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Subsequently, aso513 (I would assume the same guy from above. I sound like the recorders or whatever from Stranger in a Strange Land) tweeted back to Jorge.
Jorge said:
“Sano is under no obligation to sign with the team that offers the most money.”
“Relationships matter in Latina America. I’ll leave it at that.”
Let the reading between the lines continue!
by CptnAwesome on Jul 14, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know why...
Milledge would be moved to Lynchburg after 3 or 4 games with the Indians?
http://lynchburg.hillcats.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t481&t=p_pbp&pid=451186
by phil79 on Jul 15, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Simple...
Milledge is coming off an injury. Lynchburg had their all star break a couple weeks ago. Indy had 3 days off in a row (Monday through today)…so they sent him to Lynchburg to get more playing time.
by Thunder on Jul 15, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, i figured that. Just wasn’t 100% sure.
by phil79 on Jul 15, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me it shows just how much the Pirates hope to get him back to the major league level and do it quickly.
by Brakeman8 on Jul 15, 2009 2:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL! - No, I am not Jake of the Bucco Blog.
Jake is also known as “Sunfunn” on the Pirate Message Board and no, I am not that guy.
I have no issues with him. I don’t read Buccoblog but have seen his comments on the Pirate Message Board. – Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don’t.
I can say I have never seen any of his so-called inside trade rumors come to fruition.
And he knows less about MRI’s than he would like people to believe.
But, I, NuttingHostage am not Jake.
It matters little to me if you want to continue to think that, but I thought I would set the record straight.
by Nuttinghostage on Jul 17, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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