Karstens gets beaned

by vanslyke on Jul 21, 2009 9:19 AM EDT Comment 34 comments

So I watched the end of the game last night so I coud actually witness the end of the 17 game losing streak. Karstens leads off the bottom of the eighth and gets plunked. Of course Karstens gets pissed because we are up 7-2 at the time and it was completely unecessary. Jason Kendall gets in his face and the benches clear. Joe Kerrigan actually had to be restrained (must be the Irish blood) while going after Kendall. BTW - I didnt see JR and the word was he was being checked for a pulse in the dugout during the incident.....

Of course Wehner (who is only a tad better than Bill Fralic in the boring/annoying voices category) chimes in that this is ridiculous and Karstens should just take it like a man and go to first. Wehner was giving Jason Kendall happy endings all over the place by saying that he was right by just getting in front of Karstens, telling him to go to first and for basically being the only guy in the game today to play old school baseball.....(wipe the s**t off your nose John)

As we all know, this was a retaliation for the whole Ryan Braun incident. According to Weiner (I know I spelled it incorrectly), baseball polices itself in the beanball category by hitting the first opposing player after the previous tems hitter was beaned. Well....the Brewers missed that part. No Brewers pitcher beaned a Pirate batter after Braun was hit. So two months later, with Karstens at bat in the middle of a blow out, the Brewers decided to exact payback?

Look, if you "police yourself" in the whole beanball area, have the balls to do it when it happens no matter the ramifications. Beanball etiquette is to do it during the game or even with the first batter in the next game of the series. Don't be a douche and pick your spot just because you "owe the team one" and you were getting blown out already. That was just ridiculous and an absolutely classless move that makes me hate the Brewers even more!

I just wish Karstens stayed in the game and beaned Kendall who was leading off the top of the 9th. I would have paid to see Weiner come down from the broadcast booth and publically tounge lash Karstens. Karstens would have probably fell asleep during the rant though......

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I wanted Karstens to come back out too

I know he was able to get the save but there was no way he was getting it. He was going after Kendall. I think that’s why JR took him out. You can still pitch with tightness in your non throwing elbow, especially if its one pitch to Kendall’s back.

"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."

by BattlinBucs on Jul 21, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions

Um ...

“As we all know, this was a retaliation for the whole Ryan Braun incident.”

Wow, you have great sources in the Brewers’ clubhouse. What trades are they working on?

by bucdaddy on Jul 21, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions

I think that is.....

a pretty fair assumption since Karstens hit Braun on April 17th after he homered earlier in the game.

by dtoddwin on Jul 21, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Did you see Braun come in der and toss his wittle gwove?

I would’ve loved to see someone take him down. Hopefully today we jump out to a big lead again so we can shoulder blade him.

"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."

by BattlinBucs on Jul 21, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions

It’s also a pretty fair assumption since Kendall immediately became far more worked up than Karstens and acted like he was trying to instigate something. It looked to me like Kendall was primed for a big brawl to start, which shows Karstens was hit on purpose.

It’s also quite a coincidence that a pitcher who didn’t come anywhere close to hitting anybody else just happened to hit Karstens with the first pitch.

by WTM on Jul 21, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Bucsdaddy

this has to be sarcasm right? Why else do you hit a guy ON THE FIRST PITCH when down 7-2 after your all star bitched and moaned about no one standing up for him? It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that one out…..

by vanslyke on Jul 21, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions

...of course it was

by ryebr3ad on Jul 21, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

I think they picked the wrong team to start beaning guys while being blown out. We ought to get a lot more chances at that than they will, probably starting today if JR is really planning to start Vasquez.

by WestCoastBuc on Jul 21, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions

Start of a good rivalry?

If he keep the tensions high for the rest of season and next it could be a good rivalry when we are hoping to be competitive in ’11.

"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."

by BattlinBucs on Jul 21, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions

Once the Pirates are competitve

good rivalries will come forth. You cant suck and have a rivalry. See the Pittsburgh Steelers/Cleveland Browns OR Pittsburgh Steelers/Cincinnati Bengals…….

by vanslyke on Jul 21, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions

Not completely true

Look at the Steelers/Ravens. Even when the Ravens were average it was a rivalry because the teams:
a) hate eachother
b) are in the same division and see eachother more often
c) something always happened before/during/after a game to further fuel the hatred

The Pirates/Brewers haven’t like eachother since atleast when Capps beaned Fielder. It’s already a rivalry because of the 3 points above in my Steelers/Ravens example which could be made bigger in a few years with a heated division race of possibly a meeting in the playoffs.

"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets so a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce

by gorillakilla34 on Jul 21, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Braun's HR

I missed it as well, but agree with the thought process here. Everyone knew it was coming. And Braun probably has at least one more coming his way. Sad thing is that the league is probably involved now and they will be given warnings the rest of the games this series and any near bean balls will be an instant ejection.

But did Braun Kosher Hot Dog it when it left the park? If so, prepare for another close shave tonight. Brewers are kind of playing frustrated right now, so a bean ball war could do damage to their roster with suspensions and keep them out of the race. Would the Pirates like to initiate that process?

There is great history here with Capps-Fielder and Karstens-Braun. A lot like the Rays/Red Sox.

by backtocali on Jul 21, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions

Nah, he didn't hot dog it.

by dtoddwin on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

One would look kind of ridiculous

hot dogging while down by 3 in the ninth with two out and no one on.

by WestCoastBuc on Jul 21, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

We are talking about Ryan Braun here…

by backtocali on Jul 21, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Did y’all notice the extended celebration with Braun, Fielder and Cameron after Braun touched the plate? You’d think Braun had tied the game. Seemed pretty bush league to me.

by WTM on Jul 21, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed.

by Slizeezyc on Jul 21, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

No, he didn’t hot dog that one, only because they weren’t winning. But if they had been winning, you can guarantee Braun would’ve hot dogged the heck out of it. Braun is lucky he doesn’t get thrown at more often. He is a great player, but a very immature kid.

by mspirate on Jul 21, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

"Kosher Hot Dog"

It’s funny because he’s jewish!

Hmmm… I thought you were the guy in the “not a fan” category? Doesn’t “Brewers are kind of playing frustrated right now, so a bean ball war could do damage to their roster with suspensions and keep them out of the race. Would the Pirates like to initiate that process” suggest that you’re rooting against the Brewers? And doesn’t that make you a fan, in this case, of whatever team is playing the Brewers?

Pathetic, if unsurprising, backtocali. Have you stopped lying to yourself yet?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 23, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions

fixed that for ya.

Seemed pretty ~~bush league~~ typical Brewers M.O. to me.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 21, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions

I second that

I freakin’ hate the Brewers. I hope Braun gets plunked by Vasquez.

by vanslyke on Jul 21, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Probably not the place to post this

But you’re right on. John Wehner is the equivalent of listening to paint dry. When I turn on FSN & see that John & Tim Neverett are calling the game, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little disappointed. I wish Greg Brown & Bob Walk would do every game.

Ending that streak with a little “Raise the Jolly Roger!” from Greg Brown would have been the icing on the cake. A fastball in Braun’s ear in the 9th would have worked even better.

by HoakyPoak on Jul 21, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions

No - this is the place

I cannot stand Weiner. Give me Walk and Neverett. Brown has been cranky lately (16 losing seasons will do that to you).

by vanslyke on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions

No way!

Brown & Walk are the best hands down. They sold me during a game back in April when they broke into their own spontaneous version of the Polamalu Song. It’s Paulllll Maholm! Paul Ma-Who? Doo Do Do Doo…..Paul Ma-who? It’s Paulllll Maholm! hahaha. Great stuff right there.

by HoakyPoak on Jul 21, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Generally speaking, I like Walk OK, but now and then he has delusional episodes, like his lecture a couple days ago on why it’s bad to have a high SB %.

by WTM on Jul 21, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I have trouble understanding Wehner when he talks.

Nice enough guy, but the accent is makes him hard for me to understand.

by Vlad on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Pierts

His Pittsburghese is the worst!

by vanslyke on Jul 21, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions

the brewers screw up everything

last time i check you pay a team back in the same game not two months later and i can understand if karstens got hit in his throwing arm but if not just go to first and move on. But I did like the show of support by the bench when he started heading towards the mound and especally kerrigan almost fighting jason kendall that would have been awsome but thats just me.

by WVPiratesfan on Jul 21, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions

Stop building the still

and get back to English class.

by dtoddwin on Jul 21, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Aww come on guy. You should be encouraging him.

Everyone I know from WV would gawk in awe at one of them there fancy typin’ machines, let alone know how to use one.

"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets so a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce

by gorillakilla34 on Jul 21, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

that's not nice

Just because i an’t type doesn’t mean you have to take it out on all of West Virginia

by WVPiratesfan on Jul 22, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions

I said everyone I know from WV, Not all of WV. I guess you can't read either...

"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets so a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce

by gorillakilla34 on Jul 23, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions

the whole thing should be over with now

Last night Karstens told Fielder at first base he expected to be hit….Kendall told him, ok so you got hit, now take your base (haha something like that) im kidding….Kendall made it more then it should have been. I’m sure he said something foolish, he was ready to throw down no doubt. The whole beanball thing should be over now. I don’t see JR’s Pirates hitting anyone else and taking it any further. The Brewers are only 3 back from the Cards and need to focus on winning. I don’t see them wasting their time on this, they got there payback. Its done!

by C Los on Jul 21, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions

Dave Kerwin . . .

that’s hysterical. I think it’s fantastic that Kendall picked a random, non-script name to call Kerigan. I think Dave Kerwin should become Joe Kerrigan’s Tony Clifton.

by Scranton on Jul 21, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions