Astros 4, Pirates 1: Offense Vanishes Again
Again, the Pirates just completely vanished in this one, and you could see from the beginning that the offense just wasn't going to hit. Mike Hampton allowed only three hits despite struggling with his command early and, you know, not being very good.
It was also clear from this game that the outfield has slowed down a lot in the past couple weeks. Delwyn Young took what seemed to be an eternity to get to a double hit to the left field corner--or maybe we've just been spoiled by Nyjer Morgan. And Garrett Jones narrowly avoided a Jose Canseco situation--Jones pulled back a Geoff Blum hit that would have been a homer, but it bounced off him and caromed way, and the Astros scored two runs as Blum cruised into third. It initially appeared that the ball had bounced off Jones' head and then just missed going over the wall, but it actually bounced off his arm. Keeping in mind that the Astros' right field wall isn't high at all, a lot of outfielders would have made the catch, in which case the game would have been much closer.
On the plus side, Evan Meek looked filthy recording three strikeouts in the eighth.
A few notes:
A's add some pop in Hairston from Padres
The Padres have traded Scott Hairston to the A's for minor leaguers Ryan Webb and Craig Italiano and a player to be named. This strikes me as reasonable. For a slightly above average hitter who's overachieving this year, the Padres get a fringy reliever (Webb), a very high-risk starting pitching prospect (Italiano, who's kind of like an older, lower-upside version of Jeff Locke in that he strikes out and walks a ton of guys, gets a fair number of grounders, and has an early-round draft pedigree) and a PTBNL, who's rumored to be Sean Gallagher, who Padres fans can hope will fit into the back end of the team's rotation. It's kind of a grab bag from the Padres' end, but Hairston isn't that good of a player, and pitching depth doesn't grow on trees.
Twitter / Jorge Arangure: Am convinced Sano will not ...
ESPN's Jorge Arangure says the Orioles don't see Miguel Sano as being worth more than $1.5 million or so. If true, this likely makes the Pirates the best candidate to sign him. I just noticed that Androgen Jar Jimmy put this in the fanshots as well, and he also has a pretty provocative fanpost on the subject.
Louisville 15, Indianapolis 1
Donnie Veal (and Jason Davis, Juan Mateo, and, to a lesser extent, Brad Lincoln) got knocked around by the Louisville Bats tonight. Veal allowed five runs and four walks in 1.3 innings, and now has a AAA ERA of 6.43.
West Virgnia 8, Lakewood 4
Tony Sanchez went 2-for-4 (raising his average at West Virginia to .368) and Quincy Latimore went 3-for-5, and Quinton Miller also pitched pretty well. Robbie Grossman, however, struck out four times.
GCL Yankees 6, GCL Pirates 3
2008 bonus baby Wesley Freeman is off to a great start for rookie-league Bradenton. Also, Rinku Singh pitched a scoreless inning tonight.
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Rinku Singh spits hot fire.
RIP NATE. RIP TONY PLUSH.
"IF I WASN'T A BASEBALL PLAYER...I'D BE A SHERIFF"
-TONY PLUSH
by GTrain on Jul 6, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to seem like an ass here...
…but if the quote in your signature is from “Pirate’s Q+A” at the home games, Nyjer said chef, not sheriff. It still doesn’t take anything away from Plush’s true greatness, though.
But if the quote is from something else, accept my apologies.
by Isotopes on Jul 6, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Prefer To Believe That He Said "Sheriff"
Because I can actually vote for him for Sheriff.
Write in Tony Plush!
by Androgen Jar Jimmy on Jul 7, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is some really bad baseball on the horizon. This is just a taste of what will happen when our two best players are gone out of the lineup. Alas, that is the pain of rebuilding.
- Although with Doumit back and Milledge hopefully hitting soon, it might not be quite as bad after those two pieces are in place.
by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 6, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
This could be absolutely brutal. It isn’t anything we haven’t dealt with in the past. 2011 can’t get here soon enough
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
by BattlinBucs on Jul 6, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should also add the pessimist points that Doumit hasn’t hit Gulf Coast League pitching yet, and Milledge is certainly a big X factor as well.
by Gorkys n' Beans on Jul 6, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s bad baseball on the horizon, but like you said, that’s the pain of rebuilding.
For once, I feel like it’s an honest-to-goodness rebuilding that has a chance to go somewhere. Watching bad baseball during the last 17 years has mostly been a two-step dream: (1) Get a competent GM who can (2) come up with an actual plan. Bonifay and Littlefield—especially Littlefield—failed at step 1, so I knew the second step would be doomed to failure. Giving those guys the keys to rebuilding is like trying to teach your kid how to ride a motorcycle before going through training wheels. (Yes, I’m purposely making my terrible analogy one step removed from the natural comparison point—a regular bike as compared to a bike with training wheels. Bonifay and Littlefield were that bad.)
I’ve browsed through the BD archives over the last few days to remind myself how bad it really was. I know the broad strokes well enough off hand, but some of the little details I had forgotten. Those teams screwed almost everything up, and Charlie struggled to find optimism in things like “Well, it’s a terrible signing, but at least it isn’t a multi-year deal.” Night and day between then and now.
by CptnAwesome on Jul 7, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Doumit winds up getting traded. That would suck.
by mspirate on Jul 7, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that deal for the A’s, especially so if the PBTNL is Gallagher.
by wickethewok on Jul 6, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, Charlie...
Astros 4, Pirates 1: Offense Vanishes Again
When did the offense show up? Isn’t that required before it can vanish “again”?
True Blue Jazz
Bucco Ball
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RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
by UtesFan89 on Jul 7, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like...
throwing teammates under the bus isn’t limited to Pittsburgh. Our favorite Brewer…Ryan Braun…is making lots of friends with his teammates and GM.
by Thunder on Jul 7, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I laughed...
at Buster Olney’s take on Braun’s comment:
Whether he meant to or not, he’s essentially implying that Melvin isn’t conducting his work with all necessary urgency…Melvin is obviously aware of his own team’s deficiencies…
…If Melvin stood in the dugout in the middle of a game in which the Brewers were being shut out and shouted, “We need to start getting some hits around here,” would that be particularly helpful to Braun?
by CptnAwesome on Jul 7, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look everybody. It’s Ryan Braun acting like a child! What a surprise! This guy is a great player, but he seriously needs to grow up.
by mspirate on Jul 7, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to see
Ryan Bruan get plunked when Milwaukee comes to the Burgh in a couple of weeks.
by BadAndy on Jul 7, 2009 9:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He may get plunked by one of his own teammates in BP.
by WTM on Jul 7, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From DK’s minor league roundup:
“LHP Donnie Veal (6.43) allowed five runs and two hits in 1 1/3 innings of relief. He struck out two, walked four, threw a wild pitch and threw 19 of 42 pitches for strikes.”
That’s encouraging.
by mspirate on Jul 7, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you read it as
"LHP Donnie Veal (6.43) allowed five runs and two hits in 1 1/3 innings of relief. He struck out two, walked four, threw a wild pitch and threw 19 of 42 pitches for strikes."
it’s kinda encouraging.
True Blue Jazz
Bucco Ball
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RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
by UtesFan89 on Jul 7, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brutal stretch lately
Still gotta love em the tradition, the name, the colors, the stadium, the burgh’s team. Must get this curse off our backs. Lets go bucs. Lets go bucs Lets go bucs Lets go bucs. Let go bucs.
by changepirateskarma on Jul 7, 2009 2:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
young first pitch swing
Anyways I know my input is pretty lousy but here it goes first inning cutch walks, jack walks, what does Young do first pitch hits in to a double play. Now I know I am no baseball genius ( couldn’t even make my high school team/not even my first sport growing up) but it seems to me you take a pitch or two and see if hampton keeps walking people. I do know baseball is a game of momentum and these guys are the ultimate killjoy, re first inning tonight. Last couple of games Laroche defensive sloppiness. Players gets hot jr sits him the next game. Player does something positive immediately gets traded. This madness must end. This team deserves better.
by changepirateskarma on Jul 7, 2009 2:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with DY swinging. He was looking for a fastball right down the middle on the first pitch, and he got it. He killed that ball. Just bad luck.
by mspirate on Jul 7, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly he found a good ball to hit. It’s not like he chased a ball way out of the strike zone. He hit the ball on the button and somehow Hampton fielded it in the …‘Look what i found’ way.
However, Wilson should not have been doubled off. Even if Hampton had not caught the ball, it was a thru and thru single. Wilson would not have gone to 3rd…unless a bobble occured or he felt really lucky.
by lfhlaw on Jul 7, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freeman....
Is there any reason why he’s not with the State College Spikes?
by IAPiratesFan on Jul 7, 2009 3:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Freeman's gonna end up at WV next spring
So why not bring Freeman up to SC……this year’s draft picks are givin SC somethin to cheer about this year. Imagine this lineup if Freeman got called up.
Holt 2b
Summerlin ss
Chambers cf
Freeman lf
Baker 1b
Rubenstein rf
Payne 3b
Cabrera c
by BadAndy on Jul 7, 2009 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I think
this management team takes it slow with most guys during their first year in the system (especially pitchers). Since Wes didn’t get signed until late last year, he’ll probably get a bit of time in the GCL before maybe moving up towards the end of the year. I see no problem with a teenager having a bit of time in the GCL. I assume he would hold his own in WV or State College, but I also suspect he’d be putting up Grossman-like K numbers.
by Slizeezyc on Jul 7, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see any big rush here. HS kids normally spend at least a year in short season ball. Grossman and the Q are the exceptions, not the rule. Even McCutchen spent his first year (or half a year) in short season ball, and he probably needed it.
And Freeman came out of HS with a pretty quirky swing that needed work.
by WTM on Jul 7, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freeman had work to do with his swing to be successful.
He was very successful in high school with the arm bar he had just because of his athletic talent. The minor league instructors had to let him realize that facing better pitching last year in Bradenton changes were needed. He apparently has made some changes and will need to see that they are successful before they move him to compete against higher levels of pitching if not he will revert to his former approach which was successful for him in the past.
by buccoben on Jul 7, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to be working
He hit his second HR today and is now hitting .348, with the first game of a DH still in progress.
by WTM on Jul 7, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I remember the weird quirk in his swing, I wonder if they ironed it out or not. Has there been any new scouting reports since then on his progress?
by Slizeezyc on Jul 7, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I know of, but if he keeps hitting there will be.
by WTM on Jul 7, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that this is just the way it has to be for the rest of the year but…. Last night, going into the top of the 9th you have your 2,3,4 hitters coming up and you think, “hey maybe we can get a couple here and make it interesting” . Then you realize that your 2,3,4 hitters are, Jack Wilson, Delwyn Young, and Garret Jones ( a guy who just got called up from pretty much being a lifetime AAA player. Ouch!!!
by biglar33 on Jul 7, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get a Clue !!
Reading some of these posts about trading everyone on the team and the trades that we have already made will cause a team to self destruct because of chemistry ! The real issue at hand is the reason behind the majority of trades and that would be called salaries ! Now that is a topic that everyone should be outraged at, it is the main reason we are unloading our season, it’s not because of age, it’s because of salaries the same reason we traded away Jason Bay and the rest of players from years past ! Quit sugar coating it, when 3/4 of the league can’t afford to keep their star players after their 6 year service comes into play, and the 1/4 that can. keep loading their team with the best players from the the 3/4 that can’t ! They keep feeding their fans with the idea that we got good prospects, but those good prospects set your franchise back until they get some experience under their belt, and some of those prospects may never pan out. Why is it that automatically the Pirates are sellers ? Looking at our team before we traded away Nyjer for a cancer, we were 5 games out of 1st place, in my opinion we had a starting OF of Morgan, McLouth, McCutcheon, but gave the excuse that we traded away McLouth for our future, which those players may not even make it ! We have the best DP combo in baseball with Wilson/Sanchez, and management will trade them away for prospects too because the truth is that these 2 guys should be retired as Pirates like they would of been back in the 60’s & 70’s. in today’s market Roberto Clemente & Willie Stargell would not be Pirates because the Pirates would of traded them away because of these outrageous salaries that are ruining the game ! The average starting salary in 1984 was $43,500/yr compared to now which is $400,000/yr that has caused salaries to balloon for the mid level players and the stars of the league ! You think Bud Selig is going to do anything about that, especially since he is lining his pockets to a tune of 18+million a year !! You guys keep talking about 2011 or 2012, when those years don’t guarantee us nothing,In the 70’s we had the Lumber Co. Now days we are the Aluminum Co, because we are the best recyclers in the game !!!
by baseballneedsasalarycap on Jul 7, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hehe
This has to be a fake post…
I'm droppin' flava, my behavior is hereditary--but my technique is very necessary.
by phillybucco on Jul 7, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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RIP NATE. RIP TONY PLUSH.
"I'D BE A CHEF"
-TONY PLUSH
by GTrain on Jul 7, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't even.....
get past the third sentence. Lunacy…..and Mr./Ms. Lunatic, please use paragraphs.
by dtoddwin on Jul 7, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll summarize
“Blah, blah, blah, salary dump, blah, blah, blah, locker room cancer, blah, blah, blah…”
I'm droppin' flava, my behavior is hereditary--but my technique is very necessary.
by phillybucco on Jul 7, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much appreciate
what used to be called the Reader’s Digest version.
by bucdaddy on Jul 7, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
we almost “solved” Mike Hampton last night in the first inning by nearly taking his head off with a live drive. I don’t cheer for injury, and it would have probably been scary to see what would have happened if he would have gotten hit, but at least it might have ended his dominant streak…
I'm droppin' flava, my behavior is hereditary--but my technique is very necessary.
by phillybucco on Jul 7, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm suprised he didnt have to go on the DL
for a hand bruise. He’s more brittle than……..can’t think of anything good, but he is brittle!
by vanslyke on Jul 7, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mobile commenting is now available if anyone’s interested…just saw it pop up today.
by CptnAwesome on Jul 7, 2009 11:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I saw that
I have been so frustrated since joining because I wasn’t able to use my phone to comment. Now all is well.
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
by BattlinBucs on Jul 7, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's about damn time!
I don’t have home internet so most of my time online is through my mobile phone. I’m so glad I can be able to participate in Bucs Dugout once again.
by BadAndy on Jul 7, 2009 12:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Since you didn’t post that from a phone I have no idea if you’re being sarcastic about people who want to post from a phone or not. I’m sure SBNation got plenty of questions about it or they wouldn’t have bothered doing it.
by CptnAwesome on Jul 7, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is a good idea. People at the game can comment. I didnt even think to ask about it.
by IAPiratesFan on Jul 7, 2009 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm being 100% honest
This is the site I visit the most during the day. I was on a 7 hour trip last month and could only read and not participate. It was very frusterating. If I didn’t watch the game at my house I never had the opportunity to join in all the BD fun. Now I get to kill my battery no matter where I am.
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
by BattlinBucs on Jul 8, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dat splANEs da guy who tipe like dis!
RIP NATE. RIP TONY PLUSH.
"I'D BE A CHEF"
-TONY PLUSH
by GTrain on Jul 7, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I am sorry I even mentioned the chef quote. It just doesn't represent Nyjer well enough. I'll try to make up for it.
The one night on Rocco’s post game show, Nyjer did tell him that the giant chew stain on his shoulder was a “Plush Mark”.
by Isotopes on Jul 7, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talking about the Pirates' farm system
is getting to be more interesting than discussing the top team.
by patthatt on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No it's not
It’s unfortunate. Although it’s awesome to at least have one of the two show promise.
RIP NATE. RIP TONY PLUSH.
"I'D BE A CHEF"
-TONY PLUSH
by GTrain on Jul 7, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Our minors have been terrible for a long time. The major league team wasn’t any better. Obviously you are going to default to the major league club then. Now we have excitement in the minors. In a few years both should be good and we will default to the big club, but this time for good reason.
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
by BattlinBucs on Jul 8, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll say that it means that for once. The scouting team and drafting has done better in comparison to when D. Littlefield was here.
by lfhlaw on Jul 7, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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