Pirates vs. Rockies, 11 August 2009
by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 11, 2009 7:30 PM EDT
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Ross Ohlendorf vs. Jhoulys Chacin, 8:40 PM.
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no break tonight for the Bucos
once again they are facing a talented pitcher. This time the Rockies top pitching prospect Chacin (The ’08 Minor League Pitcher of The Year) This season he has worked five innings of relief, recording 9K , 3 BB, 2 H, 1 ER
So it's a minor league pitcher (who normally do well against the Bucs)
but it’s a good pitcher (who have been known to not do as well against the Bucs). I’m still going to bet on the offense not showing up
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Kevin Youkilis
just flat out charged Rick Porcello. Threw his helmet and everything.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
And Bay
just hit a 3-run home run.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
hit where?
close to the head?
somehow dont see why it would be intentional that early in the game, but did it look like it?
Cabrera was hit in the hand first
Followed by V-Mart getting brushed back. But then, Cabrera had to leave the game after trying to hit his next time up. That was followed by Youk getting hit in the back. Porcello seemed to be kinda disgusted about hitting Youk and was shocked when he turned and saw a POed Youk charging right at him. He started backing away (I would too if I were him, Youk is kinda big and Porcello is a tiny kid) and Youk took off his helmet threw it at him and then grabbed hold of Porcello. Porcello then used Youk’s momentum and kinda tackled him to the ground followed by other players piling on. It was interesting.
Oh, Francona then went on to get tossed later in the game when arguing a call at second on a stolen base attempt. And this all happened in 2 innings.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Youkilis also got hit by a pitch last night…so there may be more history between these two teams than we are seeing from a distance.
Didn't know that
The rest of the series will be interesting.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
And now...
the replacement for Youkilis…Mike Lowell…has just gone deep. Maybe they should have left Youk alone ;)
It must be nice
to be able to bring some like Lowell off the bench
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Lineups
Pirates’ lineup:
1. McCutchen, CF
2. Milledge, LF
3. Jones, RF
4. Doumit, C
5. Pearce, 1B
6. Young, 2B
7. LaRoche, 3B
8. Cedeno, SS
9. Ohlendorf, P
Rockies’ lineup:
1. Smith, LF
2. Gonzalez, CF
3. Helton, 1B
4. Tulowitzki, SS
5. Hawpe, RF
6. Stewart, 3B
7. Barmes, 2B
8. Iannetta, C
9. Chacin, P
From DK:
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6:15 p.m.: Russell, on the Pirates facing Chacin, a Class AA starter making his major league debut: “For some teams, it would be a little different. But most of our guys are seeing pitchers for the first time, anyway, because we’re so young. I don’t think too many of our guys had faced Chris Carpenter. I think it’s going to be like any other game: Try to have a good approach and good at-bats against him.”
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
Ump not giving the inside corner
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I did not expect anyone to be there personally
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DP
Soft liner to 2nd. Cutch doubled off first
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Nyjer tonight...
1st time up…single…steal 2nd…score on single.
2nd time up…single…steal 2nd…next pitch…tries to steal 3rd…out…3B coach gets tossed to save Nyjer from getting tossed.
3rd time out…K looking. Nats down 4-1.
Umpire ejection fantasy leagues...
have been REAL busy the last few days.
Hey
a team that is able to successfully execute the sac bunt
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
What a throw by doumit.
Andy didn’t even move his glove
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Nice play by Doumit
to get the runner at third
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Ball got away
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Wild pitch
semi blocked by Doumit off to his right and he jumped up, picked it up, and threw the runner out.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Dumatrait...
…gave up four runs on four hits in the top of the first for Indy against Columbus, but settled down to allow only two more hits and no more runs over the next five innings. He finished with 4 K and 1 BB in six innings.
That is correct...
…it looks like the first batter reached on an error by Clement, and later on Tagg Bozied made an error allowing another run to score.
Promising recovery.
I watched the game and he was getting lit up in the 1st. He did settled down though which is promising. I’ll thing he’ll be our lone lefty in the pen when he comes off the DL.
Leadoff Double
for Doumit to RF
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Doumit
risky, but heads up at least
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Good job doumit moving to third after the throw
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That was odd
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Doumit
Heads up again…nice
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Dy swung a pitch that hit him!
How often do you see that. And the runner scored because the ball got by the catcher. Weird play!
Definitely interesting
2 good choices by Doumit
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
What's the rule for that?
If it hits the batter but he swung at it, is it a dead ball? I guess it’s not
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Going back to the Pearce AB
Wehner complained about Pearce not trying to hit the ball to the right side with Doumit at 2nd.
Am I the only one that thinks the idea of the #5 hitter trying to move a runner in a scoreless game at Coors is kinda silly?
When struggling to score
you shouldn’t try to pull everything. But he shouldn’t also try to hit everything the other way. But I guess that can be used in any situation.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
I think there is a 100% chance...
that if Pearce goes the other way it would, or would not, have been a good decision.
I just think that
if a pitch is on the outside corner/half should be taken the other way. My opinion
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alrighty
It is highly doubtful though that pearce can go the other way..or many major league hitters for that matter.
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DY should get an RBI!
He made contact . . . kinda.
Yeah yet Wehner apparently didn't approve
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Interesting.
So our announcers are even worse than the talent on the field right now. Awesome! What a fricking ebarrassment to hear someone representing our org say something like that. He should be shit canned tomorrow.
I mean
they only pitched and hit really well. But they couldn’t field or base run well at all.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Of course, they won partly by getting Mientkiewicz and Cabrera to improve their defense
But that’s besides the point.
Ya
I was just mocking Wehner. Of course the 04 Red Sox would have never won without juicing.
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Back to back 2 out walks
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Pedro having a quiet night so far...
2-2 with a walk…now hitting .329 for the Curve. Curve up 8-0 in the 5th.
Apparently the run shouldn't have counted
Should have been a dead ball once it hit DY.
Thank you umpire
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Whoa. According to Greg Brown on the broadcast, when a pitched ball hits a player and he is not entitled to first base (i.e. he didn’t try to avoid it, or he swung at it), the ball is dead. So Doumit’s run shouldn’t have counted. Uh, whoops.
Unless the Ump thought...
…that the ball hit in the dirt, then bounced into DY. That might not be a dead ball since it touched the ground first. Of course, the ump was still wrong, but he didn’t have 5 angles of HVTV with super slow-mo.
Hopefully...
Tulo got everything out of his system last night.
nope
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 11, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
Tulo is hot
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Clement
0 for 3 with a strikeout and an error for dropping the ball at first base tonight.
The defense worries me, though. He’s said to be completely incompetent at all positions in the field, so every error is troubling to me.
by Suffering Buc on Aug 11, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I've watched every game since we acquired him...
and while he is no gold glover I’m confident he can be an average defensive player with regular playing time. He really hasn’t looked that bad.
I’d be lying if I said I’d seen him play, so I’m just making inferences based on what I read and then applying what I know about him to evaluate his performance, if you get what I’m saying.
I hope you’re right.
by Suffering Buc on Aug 11, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I get a ya...
and I hope I’m right too. I’m pretty sure if he doesn’t succeed it won’t be because of his glove at 1B.
he can't be worse
than Adam Dunn can he?
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Do pitchers typically throw faster
in Coors? Thin air thing maybe. Or am I crazy?
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
He is smart
so i wouldn’t put it past him
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Me either...
he reportedly sacrificed some velo for control this year. Maybe is getting more confident with his recent success. I think he has something like a 2.74 ERA in the second half.
Hmm
maybe he can stick in the rotation. I’ve still be iffy about that aspect.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Same here...
I really pleased with his performance so far. I thought it was a given that he’d end up in the pen at some point.
You definitely feel the difference in
physical performance coming down from altitude – I’ve moved from higher to lower altitudes and gotten great runs in for the 1st week. But you usually suck wind going up.
Tulo has...
as many home runs this season as all of our traded infielders…combined (Freddy (6), Jack (4), Adam (12)) did when they left.
Ohlendorf
Did anyone else notice that the last few starts, Ohlendorf has been throwing faster? Tonight he hit 96 mph. I think he’s starting to come away from the sinker and is starting to throw his four seamer more. That’s my take on it at least.
Is it me . . .
or is Ohlendorf like the most blah player ever. He doesn’t do anything particularly well, and besides HR tendency, he doesn’t do anything particularly poorly. He’s just kinda there.
Pretty much
That’s not necessarily the worst thing from a #5 starter, though. Generally will keep you in ballgames.
Exactly
He’s just the kind of guy you love to have 2 or 3 of. You have to have one hell of a rotation for a guy like that not to be useful.
by JRoth95 on Aug 11, 2009 9:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not complaining . . .
just marveling at his ordinariness
at least he’s usually there for a decent time…
by BlindSquirrel on Aug 11, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If not you'll get the chance to soon. He's warming up
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Ha
what a coincidence
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
It's on Cutch to steal
no one is stopping him
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Ever since he got thrown out for the first time he's shown no initiative to steal
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Yeah, but he slides like a dying moose
by Trogluddite on Aug 11, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
I'm not sure
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
I wonder if Cutch
went on his own or it was a called play?
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
But was it a double steal
or did Cutch give a sign that he was stealing and wanted Jones to follow? Or am I giving too much credit to Cutch?
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Kinda thought so
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Had to be called
I wouldn’t think Garrett “the Moose” Jones ran on his own.
and I’m fine with the Moose staying on third on that last play.
you'd be surprised
at how well meese run
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Ha. Speaking of Josh Fogg, he’s coming into the game after Chacin’s sixth walk. I actually had no idea he was still with the Rockies.
It would have been nice
if they had done the same thing for O.A.R. I would have actually enjoyed that.
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Since I still have the MLB.com delay
I had a chance to see it – you have a problem w/scantily clad dancers?
Woo!
3B by Delwyn
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That thing carried
a long ways
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Another walk
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indeed it is
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Even more difficult to do it
in less than 4 innings.
How can the Rockies really be that good if Josh Fogg is their first option out of the pen?
by Gorkys n' Beans on Aug 11, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
he had a .148 OBA in 17 gms so far this year
good thing it means nuthin right now!
Long relief option
kinda like Karstens with the Bucs
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RBI Single by Cedeno
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(:edeno
infield hit…lucky infield hit
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If we can get six more innings out of Ohlendorf,
the bullpen might not have enough time to blow this.
Matt Capps:
If you can’t beat ’em, bean ’em.
by Suffering Buc on Aug 11, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to mute the TV
And play the Benny Hill music for the rest of the game.
That's what it was called
I wanted to say “Brass Bonanza,” but that was the Hartford Whalers theme music.
The Rockies
are just falling apart…wow
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Bigtime understatement lol
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It's opposite day...
The Pirates are playing while in Rockies uniforms and the Rockies are dressed in Pirates uniforms. That’s really Jesse Chavez out there
That was a helluva catch
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Milledge!
It wasn’t pretty but it is effective
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
He just kinda jumped awkwardly
It looked odd to me.
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After review
it was just awkward because he was bracing for the impact too. Ignore what I said
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Not only was that nice, but it’s a huge play in the game.
Don’t think it would have been gone, though.
Milledge is as happy as......
Pacman Jones after “makin it rain”
Ummm...Neal...
you might want to rethink keeping Pedro at Altoona for the next month. Now 3-3…with a walk…a double…2 RBI. Now hitting .333 for the Curve.
What's his K:BB ratio at Altoona?
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Not bad
not bad at all…
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
It's doesn't matter if Pedro hits like Pujois
he’s stayin in Altoona the rest of the season
He’ll be in Indy to start the season
A Pirate in June.
BE PATIENT!
Don't have a problem with him starting next year in Indy.
There’s NO chance he will be in Pittsburgh before June. However…considering his success the last 6 weeks at Altoona…why not see how he does at Indy the last week or two of the season.
maybe if Indy was on a playoff run
not sure if they are……I remember they brought Cutch up a few yrs ago during the Curve’s playoff run but that was the last regime….I bet Pedro stays in Altoona for the rest of the year no matter hat.
no way
Pedro steps into AAA ahead of Walker! Yes, sarcasm
They've had a great night from the top of the order...
…Gorkys is 3/5 with three runs and Ford is 2/4 with two runs and two RBI. Curve lead 10-2 after six.
He puts it in play almost all the time. Eventually they'll start to fall
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Jones with the two bagger
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outfield defense
for the Rockies not performing well today
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Spillboroughs woulda caught that
Did he get traded recently?
Since July 1st at Altoona...
Pedro hitting .376/.433/.608 for an OPS of 1.041…18 BB and 31 K in 143 plate appearances.
Stud
Its going to be fun to see who develops on the 25 man (except Cutch) now who will accompany Tabata, Clement, and Alvarez when they come up.
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
by BattlinBucs on Aug 11, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
NEIL WALKER!!!
He is going to be a HALL OF FAMER!
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HOW DARE HE NOT GET CALLED UP
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Sadly
I think he’ll be nothing more than a bench player
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
by BattlinBucs on Aug 11, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say
Clement will make the roster (has to since he’s out of options)
Tabata, Alvarez, and Lincoln will debut around June 1st, 2010
I just hope
we can hang around .500 til then
I hope Lincoln settles down
I’m eagerly anticipating his MLB debut
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by BattlinBucs on Aug 11, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
he's a solid changeup away
that’s the only thing holding him back
He's probably tired right now.
He’s thrown a lot of innings this year. I think he will do well next year and earn a call up around the trade deadline after we deal one of our starters.
There's certainly some thought...
that Lincoln’s recent struggles have as much to do with his change in workload from last year as anything else. If he throws 100 pitches in a game the rest of the season…I will be shocked.
He pitched 103 innings last year…already up to 115 this year…figure MAYBE 25 innings the rest of the year.
5 innings for the next 5 starts
unless he get’s rocked which unfornuately has become common.
Good points by all
I would’ve liked to see him as a Sept call up
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by BattlinBucs on Aug 11, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just as a workload point of comparison...
Owens is at 110 innings…and they are already lowering his workload.
BTW…Owens was named Carolina League Player of the Week.
Owens
I’m looking forward to seeing Owens pitch for Lynchburg (my first Hillcats home game after moving to Charlottesville last month) on Friday.
by Traco Bucco on Aug 11, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Great inning by Ohllie
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Ohlendorf throwing the heat! 95 on the swing and miss by Hawpe. Is this just from Colorado? Or is Ohlendorf really throwing that hard?
I've been waiting for this all season
Keep bringing the gas!
"Everybody panic! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love tender meat."
by BattlinBucs on Aug 11, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
In State College...
…the Spikes came roaring back from a 4-0 deficit to beat Oneonta 7-4. Brock Holt (Go Rice Owls!) was 2/4 with a 2B, HR and four RBI. Vic Black pitched three scoreless innings (1 H, 0 BB, 3 K) for his first professional save.
Tulane>Rice
;)
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Under what metric? ;-)
Good to see a C-USA presence here.
by Traco Bucco on Aug 11, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
the metric of me of course
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Oh well,
Pedro struck out his last AB in the 7th. Unless Altoona’s napalm squad strikes again…or the Curve score another 3 or 4 runs in the 8th…he won’t get to bat…as the Curve are up 10-3.
and Ross kills another inning
He better be throwin zeros with that display.
Well our pitchers aren't exactly great hitters.
Exempting Duke
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Snell could bunt with the best of them...
pity he couldn’t pitch…
by BlindSquirrel on Aug 11, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Lincoln is a good hitter
Of course he isn’t a major leaguer yet
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Ohlie
with a kick save. But it becomes a hit
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Great idea announcers
Bring up how we’ve been losing by late comebacks.
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Ask and you shall receive
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and 2 SB
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Milledge
with a trip trip triple.
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
And now Cutch steals.
We’ve gotten over that speed bump that he’ll be thrown out once in a blue moon
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Damn that might be the fastest I've seen him move
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IBB to Doumit
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He does his only damage
when men aren’t on base
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Tracy
playing the righty-lefty matchup
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Lame day gives
Edge a double…and third on an error to Hawpe.
Pearce
not a good at bat…
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It was a good pitch. Froze him up
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by BattlinBucs on Aug 11, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Doumit
heads up on the bases today
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Doumit proving me wrong
I’ve been irritated at his lack of hustle lately.
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Strand a runner on third with no outs...
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Can't be clutch all the time
I think we’re catching up fromt he past week
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Just one run. Relax
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Even so. Nothing wrong with a little optimism
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Total fluke last year
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Don't disagree with pitching around Tulo right now
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I will certainly take that
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Overflow thread
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Ohlendorf
Like clockwork, third time through the lineup…he’s at 94 pitches and they are hammering him.
On a more amusing note, was watching the Braves-Nationals telecast here in DC, and Rob Dibble said Nyjer Morgan is the best center fielder in the league, and that Washington needs to keep him because he’s so great in the clubhouse and on the team plane, that the Pirates were taken. There is no monopoly on idiocy.
Please get Ohlendorf out of this game.
by RichieHebner on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ascanio time.
Why didn’t Russell just start him at the beginning of the inning? I don’t understand what goes through his head!
russell
I am glad I’m not the only one. What does go through his mind.
by changepirateskarma on Aug 11, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
Overflow thread is up
Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock
Heh
That darn’ Jones needs to quit having good games while Pearce stinks up the joint. It ruins Stats Geeks projections.
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