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Convince me the Pirates shouldn't have traded for Scott Kazmir if it only cost the Angels a AA reliever with spotty control and an A+ hitter who was out all of last year and a good chunk of this year with injuries. Wouldn't Kazmir have crushed the NL Central?

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Based on the talent.........

….. and age I would agree with you 100% but what is the contract the Buc’s would have to assume??

by Marooned Pirate on Aug 30, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

The fact that his velo is down, he has lost his slider, and he’s still owed over 20 million? I felt the DRays should have traded Kaz in the offseason because his value was never going to be higher.

by Slizeezyc on Aug 30, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe

That since the Angels claimed him, we never had a chance to. The waiver order goes worst to best in AL, then worst to best in NL. So we’ll never know if we had interest.

Also, these are rough figures (I didn’t look it up, but think I read them being floated around), but I think he’s due somewhere around 8mill next year and 10mill the year after. Would’ve been an OK pickup, but his contract would’ve probably scared the FO away. Also, as said, I don’t think we had the chance to claim him.

by Yotum on Aug 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The Rays got Sean Rodriguez in return as a PTBNL, who can hit a bunch. He might be a better player than Kaz.

by Gorkys n' Beans on Sep 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rodriguez is a player.

Salt Lake is a good place to hit, but he still projects at this point as an above-average 2B. Similar to Mark Bellhorn in style, but maybe a bit better.

by Vlad on Sep 2, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I’m only saying he might be better because Kaz is constantly injured at this point.

by Gorkys n' Beans on Sep 2, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not dissing Rodriguez.

Mark Bellhorn was a good player in his prime.

by Vlad on Sep 3, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This suddenly looks like a LOT better deal now that we know the PTBNL was Rodriguez. Why even bother making him a PTBNL?

by wickethewok on Sep 4, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's after the waiver deadline.

So that creates some extra procedural hoops. Like when Arizona and Minnesota just “sold” each other players (Rauch and Mulvey) for exactly the same amount of money.

by Vlad on Sep 4, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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