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Ian Snell Rips Pirate Pitching Coaches

Seattle Mariners' Ian Snell pitches against the Oakland Athletics in the first inning of a baseball game Thursday, Sept. 3, 2009, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

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5 months ago: Seattle Mariners' Ian Snell pitches against the Oakland Athletics in the first inning of a baseball game Thursday, Sept. 3, 2009, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

Via the PBC Blog, Ian Snell credits his Mariners pitching coaches with making some sort of adjustment to his delivery, which apparently turned things around for him and proves "how much more they want to win here [in Seattle] than over there."

Not to, y'know, point out the obvious, but:

Snell with Pittsburgh: 80.7 IP, 52 K, 44 BB, 7 HR, 5.36 ERA

Snell with Seattle: 46.3 IP, 25 K, 30 BB, 6 HR, 4.86 ERA

There's no evidence that Snell has improved much of anything. His last five or so starts with Seattle have looked better than his first few, but that could just be normal variance; after all, he walked five batters in his second-to-last start. His peripherals are actually worse in Seattle than they were with Pittsburgh. But hey, you know, whatever. The Pirates are pretty easy scapegoats.

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Gahhhhhhhhh

Makes me want to punch him in the throat

by eyeofhorus777 on Sep 16, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

F Ian Snell!

I hope he really fails in Seattle now.

by BadAndy on Sep 16, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Snell’s numbers speak more loudly than his words. It’s not even worth my time to listen to his latest excuses.

by thegreatchris on Sep 16, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice to know Ian hasn’t lost his touch in Seattle. You know…the touch for throwing teammates and coaches (or in this case…ex-teammates and coaches) under buses.

by Thunder on Sep 16, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the same pitcher to me

only worse (except for the slight ERA upgrade).

by bucdaddy on Sep 16, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m sure both jeff andrews and Joe Kerrigan have both tinkered with his delivery to try to improve his control. Most pitching coaches do that to when a pitcher struggles.

The problem is ‘Will the Pitcher listen or is he too bull-headed to consider the thought?’

by lfhlaw on Sep 16, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Once a dick....

Whackjob. Its only a matter of time before he’s out shooting at helicopters.

by dave1231959 on Sep 16, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“… and this thing is for shooting down police helicopters.”

“I don’t need that … YET.”

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on Sep 16, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snell is a whiner

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Sep 16, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s tough to find little faults in why you’re not pitching well or not having the control like you’d like to have.

To say an adjustment of the foot planting or landing is fine and it’s helped out his delivery.

But to say they want to win more than we do?……that’s just flat out silly….
I mean i think we all early on, wanted Snell to succeed and were looking for ways to get him straightened out.

Now Brad Penny released by Boston and went to the Dodgers and has been fairly outstanding for them. You don’t hear him slamming the Bosox for not helping him pitch better ( at least I haven’t read anything …maybe he did…idk) But in this instance he probably should have kept his mouth shut instead of slamming the pirate organization. Or just say that the pitching coach was able to identify something with his delivery that other coaches hadn’t caught. And that would have been the end of it.

If he starts getting slammed again somewhere along the way or next year. I’m sure he’ll blame the pitching coach again.

by lfhlaw on Sep 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interestingly...

Sportscenter did a piece on sportmanship in American Sports and how the lack of it is starting to show up in all sports. Indeed it’s interesting, but i think it starts with parenting and coaching in the little leagues.

by lfhlaw on Sep 16, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Maybe you’re right……..i knew he went somewhere west coast lol.

by lfhlaw on Sep 17, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me get this straight

He’s on pace for less K’s, more walks, MANY more HR’s and a slightly better ERA.

Yep, he sure is better in Seattle.

by H2O on Sep 16, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Head Case

It seems to me that Snell is a head case and that much of his success and failure is due to his perception of what better is.

The best example would be his pitching style, that of a nibbler, which seems to lead to Snell not confident in his pitches therefore he has to be perfect every time.

It is often stated how pitching is a mental game and it is my thought that the supposed change in delivery is serves as a placebo for Snell thinking he is pitching better, which as Charlie points out in Snell’s statistics apparently is not making much of a difference.

by kjcity520 on Sep 16, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He is also in pitching in a pitcher's park at home

with a good defensive group behind him. And still is putting up worse numbers

Show me a guy whos afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time. -Lou Brock

by Green_Wave on Sep 16, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Snell

Leaves out the part about not wanting to listen to his coaches or preferring to go to the minors rather than be made the “scapegoat” for the team. He had his own version of operation shutdown and calls the Pirates out. Please.

by eyeofhorus777 on Sep 16, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Immature people often fail to accept responsibility for their own actions. Emotionally I would speculate that he’s about 9 years old.

....You'll be able to spit nails, kid. You're gonna eat lightning and you're gonna crap thunder....

by chodan11 on Sep 16, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New MLB.com headline….. “Smoke and Mirrors Have Blinded Seattle Pitcher.” Unfortunately, it was his own smoke and mirrors…..

by lighthouse913 on Sep 17, 2009 3:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

He said what??

I think this just confirms the immaturity of Ian Snell and what a good move it was to trade him. He appears to be the type of player who refuses to take responsibility and will blame others for his failures. He is a talented head-case the rebuilding Pirates do NOT need……

by Marooned Pirate on Sep 17, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I think that Ian Snell’s immaturity did show in that interview and he is refusing to understand why he isn’t doing well. I think in his head he feels he is doing well no matter what right now because he is no longer with the Pirates, but eventually he is going to need to blame himself and either listen to what his coaches have to say or get a psychiatrist to straighten his ass out. I’ll bet that next year he’ll blame the Mariners for his problems pitching for next season, then he’ll be traded and blame the next team the following year after that trade. Maybe Snell and Bonds need to form their own league called MLR…lol.

by Hines Ward #1 on Sep 17, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ian Snell didn't improve much

Your right Ian Snell didn’t improve much and is using the Pirates organization as a scapegoat. But the Pirates are partial to blame for Snells stench of pitching, because Snell was used in the wrong position. No doubt Snell was a pitcher, but I thought snell did much better as a reliever, compared to a starter. Snell could’ve been a good set-up man for us. The reason why is because snell was only good for 1 or 2 innings, then it was like batting practice for the opposing teams. I’ll have to try to find some facts to support that, but it seemed like everytime I saw him pitch, I knew we were only okay for 1 or 2 innings and then it was time to turn the game over to the bullpen. The other thing that kept Snell from being a good starting pitcher is because he is afraid to throw inside, which those numbers above for Seattle doesn’t surpise me one bit. I figured he would’ve given up more homeruns with seattle then Pittsburgh, just because in order to be a pitcher in the American league, you have to throw inside pitches. I will give Snell some credit, when he was confident about throwing inside he did well, but once he started losing confidence after hitting someone or nearly hitting someone, he then starts drifting the ball over the plate instead. That part isn’t the Pirates fault, they tried to get him to throw inside more often and Snell for some reason refused to do so. I don’t know why he doesn’t throw inside more often, but I think the Mariners are going to need a psychiatrist for Snell, because something is keeping him from throwing inside pitches to throw off the hitters.

by Hines Ward #1 on Sep 17, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"I thought snell did much better as a reliever"

When was this, exactly? The last time he pitched in relief was 2005, and he has a grand total of 19 relief appearances in his entire professional career (as compared to 235 games started).

by Vlad on Sep 17, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paragraphs

can be your friend, if you let them.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 19, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares....

what a self-serving loudmouth kid like Snell says about much of anything. Just more sour grapes directed toward the Pirates.

by havildar on Sep 17, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I usually wish well

to guys the Pirates trade away. They played hard for the team, and deserve a shot somewhere else to win.
but not in this case.
Although without reading the original source, it’s tough to know the context- not that Snell does not deserve what he has people assume about him.

by vherub on Sep 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly why Ian Snell has not and will not amount to anything in the big leagues. The guy is a 10 year old in a 26-year-old body! He constantly points his finger at the guy next to him. When is he going to grow up? And as Charlie points asks, in what area has Snell improved? None. His walks are still ridiculously high as always, his ERA is high as always, and Lord knows he can’t go a start without giving up a gopher ball. Nothing, accoring to the stats, has changed. When the guy can shut his mouth long enough to make some improvements on the bump, then maybe, just maybe, I might start listening or reading what the guy says. But I don’t think his pitching is going to get better and I don’t think he will ever grow out of his diapers, so I probably won’t be paying any attention to him the rest of his career. Enjoy the headcase that is Ian Snell, Seattle.

by mspirate on Sep 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right On!

I wanna scream everytime I hear “immature”. At 26 most guys are mortgaged to the hilt and have a kid or two to feed. Not to mention a first wife to contend with. How about we replace immature with a-hole? Young my arse!

by GeneClines on Sep 18, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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