Even More SP Comparisons

by zogger on Oct 5, 2010 6:27 PM EDT

OK, this is my last post (well maybe) using data I mined about SP.

Here is a comparison for the Bucs, Reds, and the "Top 45 SP" as I listed in my previous post:. By Top 45, these were the NL SP with ~26 or more starts in 2010, which was ~ 45 pitchers. I like using the Reds cause they won our division and a few years ago were as bad as us (well almost!).

Stat	Pirates	Reds	Top 45
Innings Pitched	5.4	5.9	6.2
Hits Allowed Per 9	10.8	9.1	8.6
Runs Allowed Per 9	5.9	4.4	4.0
BaseRunners per 9	13.9	12.1	11.5
ER Per 9	5.3	4.1	3.7
BB Per 9	3.1	3.1	2.9
SO Per 9	5.7	6.6	7.3
HR Per 9	1.2	1.1	0.9
SP Wins %	21%	36%	40%
SP Loss %	52%	28%	33%
SP ND %	27%	36%	27%
HQS%	19%	34%	36%
QS%	25%	19%	25%
Avg%	16%	16%	13%
Poor%	6%	7%	6%
BlowUp%	35%	24%	20%
%HQS/QS/Avg	60%	69%	74%
HQS Win%	55%	58%	66%
QS Win%	33%	62%	41%
Avg Win%	4%	21%	25%
Poor Win%	11%	10%	14%
BlowUp Win%	4%	3%	7%

Some interesting things:

1. Our SP lasted 1.8 innings less than the Top 45 Average. Meaning our Bullpen had to cover roughly 2 more innings per start. That put quite a strain on our BP to say the least.

2. Our SP gave up 1.4 ER more per Game that the Top 45 Average. No news there really.

3. Our SP (with help/hinerance from our defense) gave up 1.9 Runs more per Game that the Top 45 Average. The defense added ,5 runs per game. These are huge!

4. Due to our poor offense, we only won 55% of our HQS (avg was 66%), 33% or QS (avg was 41%), and 4% of Avg starts (avg was 25%). So our poor hitting did not help our SPs when they actually pitched a decent (or better) game. This was particularly true for QA/Avg starts. We actually did better in Aug/Sept. where these numbers were 62%/29%/10% respectively, but still below the average.

What does it all mean? We were not very good and deserved to loss 105 games.

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so bascically what you are saying is

we aren’t that far of from the Reds and the only real difference is that they have a better offense?

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by WVPiratesfan on Oct 5, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions

Actually More Than That

We are behind the Reds in SP, Offense, and Defense. For SP, we need 4 more “Average” guys. For Defense, the Reds allowed only .3 more Runs per game than ER per game (the average), we allowed .6,

As for offense, the Reds did a much better job giving their SP wins for QS/Avg starts than we did.

Our defense must improve to league avarage. We can’t afford to give away twice the league average “free runs” per game.

I think our offsense will improve as the young guys “grow up”, so I see hope there.

My big take away is that our SP has to get to league average or better. We need to clone Ohlendorf 4 times. We can’t keep giving starts to guys (Duke, etc.) who only have a 50% chance to give us atleast an average or better start. Yes our defnse has not helped them, but the SP needs to find a way to not give the the game away. You can’t keep giving up earlly runs and win ball games.

Strange isn’t it that Ohlendorf is our only SP who is league average and gives us the best chance to win a game? WHile he does not seem that impressive (and he isn’t), he is the best we have.

by zogger on Oct 6, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions