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A Guess at Altoona's Roster

Here's an interesting article at the Altoona Curve's website in which Kyle Stark talks about what Altoona's roster might look like next year. So, to piece together what's in the article and combine it with some educated guessing (WTM's minor league camp roster and depth chart are invaluable) here's what might happen at Altoona. A lot could happen in the next couple weeks, and much depends upon factors that are unknown to me, so this is mostly just for fun for now:

CATCHER: Kris Watts. Watts hit well for Lynchburg last year but isn't a prospect. Tony Sanchez will probably start the year with Bradenton, and Watts won't be much of an obstacle if he needs to move up.

FIRST BASE: Miles Durham is mentioned in the article, but Matt Hague is also a possibility, with Durham potentially getting playing time in a thin outfield. Neither are worth getting worked up over, but 2009 was Hague's first full pro season, so there theoretically could be upside there.

SECOND BASE: Josh Harrison was acquired in the John Grabow trade, and like everyone else in that deal, he's had a miserable time since joining the organization. But he's still just 22 and has enough contact ability to be somewhat interesting. The article also mentions Jim Negrych and Jose de los Santos, neither of whom are prospects at this point.

SHORTSTOP / THIRD BASE: Chase D'Arnaud will be the primary shortstop, and Jordy Mercer will probably play third most of the time. The article doesn't mention Kevin Melillo, acquired as a minor league free agent this year, but he's probably a good bet to play third--with Mercer moving to short--if D'Arnaud has a day off. Melillo is also capable of playing at AAA, but Indianapolis already has a ton of infielders.

OUTFIELD: In addition to Durham, there's also minor league free agent Anthony Norman and former Red Sox prospect Jeff Corsaletti. The article doesn't mention this, but Gorkys Hernandez was assigned to Altoona when he was cut from big league camp, so one would think it would be possible he'd start the season as their center fielder. 

ROTATION: Tim Alderson, Justin Wilson and Jeff Locke look awfully likely. Rudy Owens is mentioned in the article but could be in either Altoona or Bradenton; he only had a handful of starts in Class A+ last year, so I see no reason to rush him. Tony Watson isn't mentioned in the article, but I think he could be in the Altoona rotation anyway. Nathan Adcock, one of the pitchers acquired in the Jack Wilson deal, played in Class A+ all of last year but isn't old and wasn't spectacular; he isn't mentioned in the article, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Pirates just sent him to Bradenton. Michael Crotta and Kyle Bloom could fill out the back of the rotation if there aren't enough prospects to start the season. Matt McSwain is also mentioned in the article, but the scuttlebutt from the message boards is that he has retired; I haven't seen a reputable news service confirm that, though, so take it with a grain of salt for now.

RELIEVERS: Ron Uviedo and Ramon Aguero will almost certainly be at Altoona. Michael Dubee, Harrison Bishop and Tom Boleska are good bets as well. Beyond that, it's tough to speculate, since much depends on what happens with the starting pitchers. Dustin Molleken, Derek Hankins and Jared Hughes could all fit in somewhere. In the article, Stark also mentions Daniel Moskos as a possibility, even though he pitched at Altoona all of last season without embarrassing himself (or playing particularly well). That would pretty much be the nail in the coffin of his reputation as a prospect if he were sent back.

Via.

UPDATE: I just saw that the Altoona Mirror has also taken a guess at the makeup of the roster.

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nothing there looks too promising...

I plan to go to an Altoona game, or two this year…I don’t see to much to get excited about on their roster so far. I’ll definetely be keeping my eye on Gorkys, and Alderson; those are 2 with a ton of upside, but both have some big holes right now. If they figure a few things out they could rise through AA, and AAA quickly.

One guy under the radar I’m interested in is Josh Harrison. A small guy, so I don’t expect much power, but if he can hit for a high average, and defend I think he will make management consider him as having a future in Pittsburgh as a secondbasemen.

Would also be nice to see management have the confidence in Moskos to start him in AAA as a reliever. I think that’s his only chance to make an impact at the major league level…he could be a valuable late inning lefty by the end of the season, but I get the feeling management does’nt think much of him, and he will be at AA for another year which is pretty sad considering Wieters will be Baltimores opening day Catcher, and probably hit 30 HRs this year while Doumit will be lucky if he plays 30 games this year.

by FusilliJerry88 on Mar 18, 2010 4:22 AM EDT reply actions  

What's sad to me . . .

is that even if they did not have the ability to pony up for Weiters demands, they could have taken Jason Heyward. If I remeber correctly, he signed near slot and was highly regarded. I’m too lazy to look, but I think it was around 11 when Atlanta took him.

That’s another thing about the DL admin. Even if you don’t have the ability to take overslot players, it’s not the end of the world if you take the right player who would sign for slot. Taking someone you admit profiles as a relief pitcher at #4 or a 3rd starter at #1 is dumb, regardless of what you pay them.

by Scranton on Mar 18, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was drafted 14th. According to this article:

Jason Heyward[] [signed for] for $1.7 million, or $170,000 over his slot value, according to Baseball America.

by CptnAwesome on Mar 18, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's speculation...

…that Heyward tried to “steer” himself to the Braves by giving all the teams in front of them a much higher number during the pre-draft period.

That said, Heyward would have been an excellent pick, and DL never even brought him in for a workout.

by Vlad on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also remember reading that. Did Heyward even try to steer himself away from the Pirates, given the team’s lack of interest?

by CptnAwesome on Mar 18, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good question.

And as to that, I can’t say. They were evidently open to taking a high school hitter, in that they brought in Mesoraco for a workout, and they were evidently open to taking a power hitter, in that they brought Mills in for a workout. In theory, they should’ve at least taken a look at Heyward, unless they had a reason not to do so.

Incompetence counts as a reason, unfortunately, which muddies the waters.

by Vlad on Mar 19, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did get it right with McCutchen at least. And then there was……um, I’m drawing a blank.

by TravisDW on Mar 18, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, not at the time

Cutch was, believe it or not, the cheap pick. Although most people said “JAY BRUCE!” Littlefield said “CASH!”. So he picked Cutch, signed him at the slot, and then sat in front of his fireplace thinking that he was the smartest man on earth.

Right now, I’m not sure who I would take. Bruce has shown that he can be a complete monster, but he has had injury problems. Cutch oozes with awesomeness, but his ceiling is probably Grady Sizemore.

So in short, the question is “who would I take, a potential Grady Sizemore or a potential Matt Holliday?” And at the time of this draft (when we had ZERO potential power hitters) I think I would go with the potential Holliday. But right now (even with just one near-legit power hitter in Alvarez) I think I would rather have Cutch. He’s just so darn cool.

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by H2O on Mar 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that’s what I meant. That was the one time his going cheap worked out in getting an actually good if not better player

by TravisDW on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alvarez cut and heading to Indy

but I really, really like his attitude as quoted in the PG story today. In short, “They know better than I do when I’m ready,” seemingly spoken without any bitterness.

Tear it up at Indy, Pedro, and we’ll see you in September, if not sooner.

by bucdaddy on Mar 19, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

They seemed to want Josh Vitters badly (which at the time would have been a nice pick to me, although now it’s at least debatable because of his microscopic walk rates and such). But they had no backup plan. You kind of need a second course of action on draft day in the event that a target is poached. I’ll bet they just didn’t scout enough players.

by Adam Reynolds on Mar 18, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

when Wieters was available to them...

they should’ve just taken him, and if they failed to sign him then so be it…the Pirates were’nt going anywhere fast, and it would’ve been more costly for Wieters to sit out a year, or play in the Independent league, or whatever.

If we failed to sign Wieters I’m not exactly sure what pick we would’ve gotten the next year, but we would’ve been awarded another pick in the 1st round much like the Nationals 2009 draft. 1st, and 10th pick in the 1st round for failing to sign Aaron Crow.

We could’ve taken Alvarez, and then had another pick in the 1st round to take someone like Gordon Beckham, Justin Smoak, Aaron Hicks, Andrew Cashner, or Casey Kelly. That’s why I don’t why teams feel so handcuffed on taking a player, or not because of their demands.

by FusilliJerry88 on Mar 18, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The comp system was different at that time.

We would’ve gotten a sandwich pick. That would’ve represented a huge loss of value for us.

by Vlad on Mar 18, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did'nt know that..

When did they institute the new rule? I geuss either 08 or 09, then…if the Pirates failed to sign him what would’ve happened? What’s a sandwich pick? I’m geussing that means after the 1st round, but before the 2nd round starts?

by FusilliJerry88 on Mar 18, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember where Victor Black was picked?

He was our sandwich pick last year. Its the compensatory picks that are typically granted for free agent losses and are “sandwiched” in between the first and second round.

The glare of the spotlight is harsh, and the pressure that success breeds immense. We revere our heroes, but expect much. And criticism can come as easily as praise.

by glass0941 on Mar 19, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glass is correct.

I believe that the current compensation system started with the 2008 draft, but I could be mistaken.

by Vlad on Mar 19, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The new system took effect in 2007. Formerly, you got a sandwich pick if you failed to sign a first-rounder. Now you get the pick directly after the one you failed to sign for a 1st or 2nd rounder. If you fail to sign the 55th overall pick, you get pick no. 56 next year. If you fail to sign a 3rd rounder, you get a sandwich pick after the 3rd round.

by WTM on Mar 19, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's astonishing how they add up

I was checking on something the other day, and saw that Victor Black was (iirc) #56 overall – for a between-round pick, which I would have guessed to be, if not in the 30s, then at least in the 40s.

Turns out that, if you have the 1st pick in the second round, every team has (on average) already picked at least 2 players. Sheesh.

by JRoth95 on Mar 19, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That year was pretty crazy.

Lots of FA movement, so lots of comp picks for everybody.

by Vlad on Mar 19, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The supplemental first round is effectively the second round. The Pirates’ second round pick is almost always the rough equivalent of a third round pick. It’s a terrible system because the supplemental first round is usually dominated by the richer teams. That’s not how it’s supposed to work.

by WTM on Mar 19, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think from mid season on they’ll be a pretty good bunch to follow. With the additions of Sanchez, Owens, and Locke to go along with Alderson and (hopefully a much more focused Gorkys Hernandez) and Josh Harrison we could make a push towards the Eastern League playoffs. The last few years have been pretty bleak to say the least so it is great to see some legitamite talent coming up through. A sign of good things to come for the Buccos.

by curvefan on Mar 18, 2010 5:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree with Jerry.... not looking forward to my annual Curve @ SeaWolves game this year as I usually am.

Plus I’m still angry the High A team is in stupid Florida. I might try and make it to a Power game if I’m lucky.

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by Ketcham Bruce on Mar 18, 2010 6:44 AM EDT reply actions  

As a Sarasota resident, I’m extremely happy to have the hi A team down here. I’m pretty excited about the Marauders. Hopefully I get to see Harrison, Owens, and Sanchez for at least a little while before they move on.

by epoc on Mar 18, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why so quick...

…to say that Watts isn’t a prospect. I don’t think he’ll be a star, and he probably won’t be a starter, but he could certainly have a long career as a bench player.

by Vlad on Mar 18, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Norman sounds like an interesting guy...

…as a person (though probably not as a prospect). Double-majored in philosophy and econ at UCLA. (Link).

by Vlad on Mar 18, 2010 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

anything on West Virginia

I need to be prepared if I make a scouting trip down there to see what we have hanging out in the land of mountaineers

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by WVPiratesfan on Mar 18, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Altoona roster

you would like sanchez will be in altoona no later than mid season? In a season or 2 altoona’s pitching staff could be incredible if all works out.

by buco4life on Mar 18, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

mistake

sorry meant "you would think sanchez will be in altoona no later than mid season?

by buco4life on Mar 18, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

According to BA, the Pirates have signed former Indians’ OF prospect Jason Cooper. He’s been in AAA for a long time, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was assigned to Altoona.

by WTM on Mar 18, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I remember him!

Big lefty corner guy, never hit for the power he was projected to have at the time of the draft.

Not to be confused with Brad Snyder, who’s basically the same player, only younger and with a little more power and a little less contact.

by Vlad on Mar 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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