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Pirates Defeat Dodgers on Opening Day

This was a great day for the Pirates, who scored eleven runs on the strength of two homers by superman Garrett Jones and a three-run shot by Ryan Doumit.

The Dodgers scored two runs in the first on a two-run single by Matt Kemp, who hit a hard grounder a few feet to the left of Andy LaRoche. I'm not sure whether LaRoche could have gotten to it or not, but my immediate thought was, "Welcome to your season, Zach"--he's going to have a lot of narrowly missed grounders behind him this year. (In the next inning, Blake Dewitt hit a ball weakly, and it ended up just getting by Ronny Cedeno; at least Dewitt didn't score.)

The Pirates got on the board in the bottom of the first with a walk by Akinori Iwamura, and then Garrett Jones followed up with a glorious homer on a fastball high and inside--it ended up in the river after clearing the wall in right. I'm going to suspend my disbelief about Jones, at least for a while. He deserves it.

In the bottom of the second, the Pirates managed to load the bases with no outs, but Cedeno hit into a home-to-first double play with a weak grounder back to Vicente Padilla. Iwamura also made an out, and the Pirates didn't score. In the third, though, Jones homered again--this one was much shorter than the first one, just clearing the short wall in left. 

Padilla hit Andrew McCutchen to start the fifth, for which I thanked him for putting a runner on with Jones on deck. Jones didn't homer this time, though, only moving McCutchen to third with a grounder after McCutchen stole second. Ryan Doumit walked, and then Lastings Milledge then brought home McCutchen home with a long double to right. Padilla intentionally walked Jeff Clement, and then the Dodgers brought in Ramon Ortiz, who got Andy LaRoche to pop up but allowed a bases-clearing double by pinch-hitter Ryan Church, and then a Texas League RBI single by Ronny Cedeno, after which the Bucs were up 8-2.

Zach Duke got through five innings, but his velocity was exceedingly weak--most of his fastballs were coming in at 86 or 87 MPH. Some of them were as slow as 85 MPH, making them hard to distinguish from changeups. His average fastball last year was around 89 MPH, and certainly a lefty with smarts and control and get away with something less than top-notch velocity, but Duke really might be pushing the limits of what he needs to get by.

Jack Taschner made his first official appearance as a Pirate in relief of Duke, and he immediately struck out James Loney. He allowed a single to the next batter, but then got a fly ball and was removed with two outs. I'm interested in seeing where this goes--every statistical indicator says Taschner is going to be mediocre, but he is supposed to have moved his arm angle down to three quarters this offseason. That might actually work for him--his velocity is mediocre (most of his fastballs today were coming in at around 88 MPH), but the arm angle makes his pitches look faster than they are. D.J. Carrasco came on with two outs in the sixth and Ronnie Belliard hit a hard liner to right, but Jones made another good catch, his second of the day after making a sliding grab in the first.

Carrasco got a little wild with a walk and an HBP to start the seventh, and Manny Ramirez brought home both runners with a single up the middle. Evan Meek came on in relief of Carrasco--with an off day tomorrow, John Russell probably didn't worry much about using all his pitchers. Matt Kemp then hit a long double that almost went off the wall in right. (Jones might have caught it, but he always seems to have problems fielding balls at the wall--even gods have weaknesses, I guess.) A Loney groundout brought Ramirez home, making the score 8-5, but Meek got Casey Blake to pop out to end the inning. Brendan Donnelly pitched a dramatic eighth inning, allowing two singles and then an Andre Ethier line drive that narrowly missed the right field line, but no runs scored.

With George Sherrill pitching and two outs in the eighth, McCutchen hit a 400-foot double off the wall in center. Jones followed that with a walk. Ryan Doumit followed up with a very long homer to left to give the Bucs an 11-5 lead that Octavio Dotel had no trouble protecting.

Before we get too excited about the Pirates' hitting performance today, we'd do well to keep in mind that the Dodgers' pitchers included Vicente Padilla, Ramon Ortiz, Russ Ortiz, Jeff Weaver and a Rule 5 pick. How a big-budget team like the Dodgers sends all these retreads out there on Opening Day is beyond me. How they have all of them on their 25-man roster to start the year is beyond me, and it speaks poorly of Ned Colletti's ability to build a team. Even given their uncertain financial situation, they can be a lot more creative than this. It's true that Weaver had his first okay year since ever last season. And I know Padilla pitched pretty well after joining the Dodgers last year (although that was 40 innings, and the 400 frames that precede them say he's bad). But still. We can joke about how the Pirates always struggle about terrible pitchers, but more seriously, if I were a Dodgers fan I'd be pretty annoyed.

Still, though! Good day.

A couple of quick notes:

-P- In case you didn't hear, Brandon Moss cleared waivers and will head to Indianapolis. It's nice that he'll still be in the organization. 

-P- Also, I answered some questions about the Pirates over at True Blue LA.

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Pirate hitters 3-6 today: 6/16, three walks, two doubles three homers, 7 RBI, 7 runs scored.

By the Bob Smizik Metric, not a bad day.

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by whygavs on Apr 5, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Not the best start for Smizik and Cook’s “historically bad offense” predictions, though. :)

by Adam Reynolds on Apr 5, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, there’s still time. But so far so good

by TravisDW on Apr 5, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

more on Smizik

If the Buccos 3-6 hitters led the Majors in every offensive stat category, Smizik wouldn’t eat crow. He’d want to take credit for it all, thinking that he motivated those guys to perform with his (horrible) editorials.

by michaelbro8 on Apr 6, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

By Schmizimetrics, our 3-6 is better than Tex/ARod/Cano/Posada.

by WTM on Apr 5, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw two WHYGAVS shirts while milling around outside the stadium. That brings up two points:

1) Where do you get a WHYGAVS shirt? I haven’t been reading long enough to know if you sell them once in a while or what; and

2) Charlie needs to make some BD shirts!

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

One was almost certainly my dad, whose WHYGAVS shirt made an appearance on KDKA tonight, I’m told. Send me an e-mail if you want one, I have a few in my apartment but not many sizes. I’ll probably put in another order this summer.

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by whygavs on Apr 5, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bucs Dugout and WHYGAVS are the two sites I check consistently every day. I’d definitely show support and wear the shirt around.

by psudynasty on Apr 5, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only have maybe a handful of shirts on hand right now, since I have them printed up by a family friend and not via Cafe Press. They’re mostly L and XL with maybe one 2XL. If you’re interested, e-mail me (the address is on my site) and I’ll let you know what I have. I can’t promise there will be enough for everyone right now, but there’s a pretty good chance I’ll put in another order at some point in the next couple months for this summer’s WHYGAVS Night (whenever that may be), so keep an eye on my blog for more information.

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by whygavs on Apr 6, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I should make some. Anyone have any ideas?

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 6, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Idea

on the top of the shirt “Bucs Dugout” , underneath it put the picture of your car with the tree that fell on it, underneath that put “It’s been a Hell of a ride”

by Danatural08 on Apr 6, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a side note,

Anyone who’s anyone should pick up one of these Teke shirts. (Hit “Enter site,” then “T-shirts.” It’s the first one onscreen.). It never fails to draw positive comments and start good conversations!

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 6, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

love it hope to see a lot more of this…if only lol.

Pow Right In The Kisser!

by Cutch is the chosen one! on Apr 5, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I checked in on the game early

and saw that Jones had hit homers in his first two ABs of the season. I was disappointed to come by after the game and learn that he hadn’t hit another. Piker.

by WestCoastBuc on Apr 5, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s good that we should get a good amount of plate discipline from most of the lineup. It seemed like most if not all of the previous “core” would always swing at the first pitch they saw.

by Adam Reynolds on Apr 5, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, they seem to have at least taken a step forward in that direction. There’s still a ways to go, though. Cedeno, Milledge, and Doumit certainly aren’t known for their willingness to take walks. Clement definitely looks like he knows when to swing and when not to swing.

by ElDuce on Apr 5, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

For why there pitching is so bad,

part of the reason they are in budget-minding mode has to do with the owner. I hear he and his ex are having a tiff.

by timh815 on Apr 5, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah. I updated the post to mention that.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 5, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The lineup

Nobody with access to Markov chains could have done it any better.

Unfortunately I tuned in during the 5th and missed Jones’ two HRs… we’ll see if he can keep up the Chris Shelton circa 2006 thing.

by schraderfan on Apr 5, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Radar gun

Is it possible the radar gun at PNC was slow today? It seemed everyone was a couple MPH off. Meek was only hitting 90-91.

by Dudash on Apr 5, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure about that...

Padilla was putting up 90-93 regularly and I don’t think he throws 93-96. Hopefully it’s just early season lack of arm strength for Duke. Also, Meek’s velocity isn’t what it was said to be when he first came to Pittsburgh; his avg FB was 91.4 in 08 and 92.6 in 09. Could be a trade-off for somewhat better control

by King Oskar on Apr 6, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

balentein

he would be a nice pick -up and some insurance in case clement fails. have a nice platoon with church and balentein. raynor oh well see-ya.

by wishiewashie on Apr 5, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

lefty starters

Will be tuff on the pirates, and relax 7 of the 11 runs came by way of home runs .This club could go a month without that happening again.

by wishiewashie on Apr 5, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"they dont foul do they ref???" Bob Huggins
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Apr 6, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possible upside of the Dodger’s pitching situation: premium prospects from Colletti for our mediocre arms at the deadline?

by Adam Reynolds on Apr 5, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Shouldn’t they be running out of premium prospects?

by thegreatchris on Apr 5, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

really impressed by Milledge...

He seems really focused; tracked down a few balls that most other LFs would not have. He also only went 1 for 5, but very well could’ve went 4-5 for how well of contact he was making…

by FusilliJerry88 on Apr 5, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like he’s getting some easy power, too. That last out he made went a long way for the type of swing he put on it. That’s good to see.

by epoc on Apr 5, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

this guy kept arguing with me about Church replacing Milledge in the lineup, and that Milledge is terrible, and of course he felt vindicated when Church hit the 3-run double…but Milledge played excellent defense and had good at-bats, very excited/impressed with Lastings today.

by psudynasty on Apr 6, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

162-0

we are going to do it this year

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"they dont foul do they ref???" Bob Huggins
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Apr 5, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

better yet...

Jones is gonna smack 324 dingers!

by Andy Veikley on Apr 5, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

But he’ll tie Albert Pujols for most homeruns this season.

by IAPiratesFan on Apr 5, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And still not make the front page of ESPN.

by MarkInDallas on Apr 6, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suprised? I couldn’t find the highlights on baseball tonight or mlb tonight forever, but hey, if the Dodgers won….

by psudynasty on Apr 6, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

ESPN’s “touch ’em all” went on and on about Heyard’s (Braves) first home run, and how awesome he is; and then didn’t say one word about Legends 2 dingers (I’m not sure which was more impressive, the opposite field slicing into the wind would have been an easy fly-out for 99% of MLB batters- pure strength there !)

by michaelbro8 on Apr 6, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I’m pretty sure the wind helped that one get out. It was blowing pretty strong to center and center left all day. From my seat near the back of Section 127 I thought either Manny had it or it would wind up foul, and was stunned it was a homer. Just made the first row of seats.

by bucdaddy on Apr 6, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a nice start but only time will tell, of course.
Nice to see Moss go to AAA Indy – maybe he still has something to show.

by Designated Hitter on Apr 5, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got back from the game. I was also ecstatic to see Jones continue his awesome story. I fully expected him to start cold and never recover, but that’s because I’m always guarded against getting too optimistic. He made two very nice defensive plays, to boot. I’m beginning to believe.

Some other random things of note:

-I was very disappointed to hear a decent number of fans booing LaRoche when he came up to bat. It was by no means widespread, but there were enough boos and various “You suck!”s thrown out to make me angry.

-Jones got a pretty good pop during intros and his first at-bat. Second only to McCutchen.

-Happily, there wasn’t a ton of Steelers and Penguins gear at the game.

-Much to my relief, Doumit kept “Mother” by Danzig as his intro music.

A funny moment happened during the trivia quiz (where you get either the prize or the mystery box)*. The woman answered the question correctly (“Who was the last Pirates pitcher to hit a homer on Opening Day?”). The host then asked if she’d like the mystery box, with the not so subtle hint that “the prizes on Opening Day are usually pretty good!”. The woman said no, that she’d prefer to take the jacket. The host said, “Well, let me just take a peek,” then looked inside and said “It’s pretty good…I can tell you it’s two tickets! Do you want the box?” The woman instantly responded, “No, I like the jacket.” The host was flummoxed for a second-he was all but inviting her to take the damn mystery prize—then said “Well, it’s so good, we’re going to give you the prize anyway…two season tickets!” I guess her stubbornness paid off, as she got to keep both prizes!

-They played the old school train animation from Three Rivers! I vaguely recall seeing it a few years back at PNC, but I’m not sure. I don’t pay much attention to the Jumbotron, but hearing the train made me check. I hope it makes its way into the rotation more often; that animation rules.

*If I’m ever picked for the trivia game, I don’t know if I’d be patient enough to wait for the question. There is a 100% certainty I’m taking the box, regardless of what I won.

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t preview. I have no idea why that one part is in strikeout. I’ve previewed it this time, so this should work fine:

A funny moment happened during the trivia quiz (where you get either the prize or the mystery box)*. The woman answered the question correctly ("Who was the last Pirates pitcher to hit a homer on Opening Day?"). The host then asked if she’d like the mystery box, with the not so subtle hint that "the prizes on Opening Day are usually pretty good!". The woman said no, that she’d prefer to take the jacket. The host said, "Well, let me just take a peek," then looked inside and said "It’s pretty good…I can tell you it’s two tickets! Do you want the box?" The woman instantly responded, "No, I like the jacket." The host was flummoxed for a second-he was all but inviting her to take the damn mystery prize—then said "Well, it’s so good, we’re going to give you the prize anyway…two season tickets!" I guess her stubbornness paid off, as she got to keep both prizes!

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we all collectively thought to ourselves: “what a jackass”.

by matskralc on Apr 5, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously. The poor guy was doing all but physically forcing her into taking the mystery box.

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha...

Yeah that was pretty funny. Damn lady take the tickets and sell the games you don’t want to go to! Geez, think a little!

by psudynasty on Apr 6, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

but

the jacket was SO CUTE!! (and ponies!)

by BlindSquirrel on Apr 6, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That old train animation...

Is actually used a lot at PNC. And yes, every year that I have gone to the home opener the prize has been season tickets. The funniest mystery box prize I ever saw was a life sized cardboard cut out of Liberace. Also, a girl won a Mr. T bobblehead one year and gave it to my son.

"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets so a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce

by gorillakilla34 on Apr 5, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, like I said I don’t really pay much attention to the Jumbotron. That animation is pretty awesome though. I’ll have to keep my eye out for it!

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liberace must get around

I think the same (or a similar) cutout was the prize at a Pens game.

by GreatCthulhu on Apr 5, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Liberace got around, alright.

by maguro on Apr 6, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was at the game as well

- The boos for Andy were pretty evident where I was sitting. After he popped out, a couple guys tried to start a “Pedro” chant and one declared he was “by far” the worst 3rd baseman in the league. He also said Cutch would be traded in two weeks.

- Parking was just horrendous. I’ve been to a ton of games and this one was the worst. All of the usual lots were “pre-sold” and we ended up parking at the casino. It took 45 minutes of driving around to find a lot that we were allowed to go in. I hope it’s not this bad all year with the construction, etc.

by BlitzburghBlog on Apr 5, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

45?

I live in Washington, PA, so normally we drive to the South Hills and take the T in. But with the Gateway Center station closed, I figured the T would be a circus. Boy, did I misjudge that one. We spent about 80 minutes trying to find somewhere to park before winding up at the garage at Liberty/9th and seeing that the FULL sign was MIRACULOUSLY not lit. We got in, and a handful of cars followed us. I looked back after crossing the street and the FULL sign was lit. Got to our seats just in time for Cutch’s first at-bat. Left the apartment (again, only in Washington PA) at 11:00.

Getting home during the rush was a freakin breeze, comparatively.

by matskralc on Apr 5, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m coming in from 28 so I can usually zip right in and get one of the surface lots around the stadium. It’s only ever taken me ten minutes to find a spot before, even on sold out weekend games.

Maybe this is just an opening day thing, but every lot I’v ever parked in around the stadium was pre-sold and the cops we asked for help just pointed us to a garage that was also pre-sale only. Terribly frustrating.

by BlitzburghBlog on Apr 5, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never park near the stadium. There’s a few parking places across the Clemente bridge for pretty cheap. All the way down to $3 in some of the lots. It sometimes isn’t fun to hustle across the bridge, especially if you’re tired, but the reduced hassle is worth it.

Being across the bridge also has the nice bonus of letting you maneuver around some of the traffic chokepoints…one of those “shortcuts” where you end up driving a bit more but end up saving time.

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the walk across the Clemente Bridge. There’s something about it that makes it part of the heading-to-the-ballpark-experience for me. I kind of look forward to it.

by matskralc on Apr 5, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong. I like the walk across the bridge. Sometimes when you’re hustling from the car or after a long game and you want to get home, it’s occasionally an annoyance…especially when the Buccos lose!

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see a single lot on the stadium side of the river that wasn’t pre-sold. And I’m pretty sure I saw all of them. Twice.

by matskralc on Apr 5, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lazy asses

It was a glorious day. We parked in the Strip and walked, from around 18th Street down Penn Avenue. 15 minutes walking >>>>>> 45 minutes in car, circling lots.

by bucdaddy on Apr 5, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The missus’s medical problems barely permitted the walk we did take. :-(

by matskralc on Apr 5, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't know that, obviously.

turns red, retracts the wise-guy “lazy asses” remark

by bucdaddy on Apr 6, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

No big deal

I know you don’t know. :-)

by matskralc on Apr 6, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beware the Box of Mystery!

I was on the Bucco Brigade in 2002 — wait, why am I willfully admitting that? — and more often than not when we did it, the box contents were crap. Not sure about now with the imposter “Cannonball Crew”.

by King Oskar on Apr 6, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, but...

…there are two mortal locks on picking the box: Opening Day, and Fan Appreciation Day.

by Vlad on Apr 6, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

We pretty clearly need someone to report from each game what the mystery prize is. Can we identify patterns?

by CptnAwesome on Apr 6, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

SSS

You’d need at least 3 seasons’ worth of data before you could reliably identify trends.

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Advanced research of this ilk clearly deserves its own fanpost, if not website.

by King Oskar on Apr 6, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was sort of weird

I started out with just normal chat, but as each topic* came up, it was more and more like a BD thread. In the end, I didn’t have the guts to ask, but it sure seemed like it.

Maybe I should have said something about Moss vs. Jones, ca. last August.

  • this was another one: Iwamura = Sanchez, but Iwamura trades BB for 1B

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care who was pitching for the other team.

Do ya’ll remember how bad our offense was against statistically bad pitching last year? We faced some of the worst pitchers in the league (specifically Brian freaking Moehller for the Astros, who owned us) and couldn’t touch them. Then, we’d face the best pitchers in the league and we’d seemingly crush them. It was weird. So today was great and I hope everybody enjoyed it b/c I don’t know how often it will happen. Good start to the season!

by mspirate on Apr 5, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Hampton also pwned the Pirate bats, several times.

I believe I’ve mentioned that before.

by BlindSquirrel on Apr 5, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the game today......

but have to run out to watch the NCAA title game. I’ll post more thoughts tomorrow. I had to leave in the 8th so I didn’t see the ball Aki missed. But, through 7 the defense made six good to very good plays. Two by Garrett Jones, the second an excellent running in catch that Charlie mentioned, one by Clement, two by Cedeno, one in getting a runner hung up between second and third, one by Milledge—and the other escapes me. The two balls Charlie mentioned that got through the left side really weren’t playable from my viewpoint.

Oh, one other thing. MVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVPMVP

You get the idea. Big day for GJ.

by David Todd on Apr 5, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, had to follow the game

on the CBS.Sports equivalent of Gameday – d*!#$% web-meisters and their narrow-minded blocking of anything even mildly relaxing – you know, MLB.com audio, World Poker Net.com, the unauthorized Baywatch site.

Anyway, I was going to comment on all the things that felt different, even though it was only one game. But then I saw on MLB-TV (which has an ESPN-like lack of air-time f/small market games) that the Pirates have won their last 4 opening day games.

So I’ll just watch the highlights, cross my fingers, and hope we’re not back to .500 tomorrow.

by Trogluddite on Apr 5, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re so bad you expect us to lose when we don’t even have a game scheduled! I don’t think even wishywashie would predict that!

=)

by CptnAwesome on Apr 5, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was at the game today, and was impressed by what i saw! batting was pretty good, duke did alright but didn’t pitch too long, and the outfield defense was good. the infield defense…well that’s another story. definitely let a few balls get passed them. all in all, it was a fun game to watch! here’s hoping the rest of the season goes well!

by Meghan P on Apr 5, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Cedeno hit into a home-to-first double play with a weak grounder back to Vicente Padilla

Actually, that ball was kinda smoked, just hit in the wrong place.

Speaking of smoked, Jones’ first homer just kept going up for like five seconds. It was a thing to see. And Doumit’s homer came maybe 3-4 rows of bleachers from hitting the windows of the HoF club. Cranked it was.

Pitching was shaky at best, except Dotel.

by bucdaddy on Apr 5, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.

I was pretty nervous between Duke and Dotel.

by IAPiratesFan on Apr 5, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t recall that ball being smoked in any way.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 5, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones homer? Oh yes it was!

Just kidding. You mean Cedeno.

Agree to disagree here, but it’s not like it was the three-hop dribbler you made it sound like.

by bucdaddy on Apr 6, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree....

that it was reasonably hard hit. He also had a great at bat later when he fouled off about five pitches with two strikes then lined a single to right. LaRoche on the other hand popped out with the bases loaded and one out. That was not a good at bat.

by David Todd on Apr 6, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Andy had a disturbing pattern of popping up with a runner on third last year, that was very disappointing.

by MarkInDallas on Apr 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If nothing else

It was hit hard enough that there was plenty of time to turn the DP, with players at a leisurely pace. But I didn’t feel like the P was lucky to glove it or anything (not like that Buerhle play, holy shit).

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was hard hit

into the dirt in front of the plate, thus negating most of the hardness of it

by poorboywilly on Apr 6, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really left a mark on the ground, though. Just like my head left a mark on my wall when he did it.

by MarkInDallas on Apr 6, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe

i said back in several fanposts over the offseason i was confident Jones could easily hit 30HR while everyone else said they would be happy if he matched the 21HRs…well here is to me being positive about guy!

by C Shint on Apr 5, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Ron Cook

Can eat his heart out. 60 and 102 in 2010? I know this was only one game and we have to keep everything in perspective, but that team today looked like it was capable of improving on last years results. I hope his press pass is revoked for Pedro’s first game.

by Littlefield's Legacy on Apr 6, 2010 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Cookie and Smizik both predicted less than 60. It’s too early to even declare victory on that, though. The season could still get ugly. Encouraging start, though, no doubt.

by Adam Reynolds on Apr 6, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went, as well.

Couple of notes:

*Woody Huyke, being honored before the game, was wearing an incredibly eye-gouging orange jacket.

*They’ve started showing the words to “O Fortuna” on the CC board during the opening movie with the pirate ships, which is nice. My dad and I always tried to sing along in past years (“O Fortuna/velut luna/stata misirialibis…”), but we inevitably lost the thread partway through, so the help is appreciated.

*The first pitch was those two local girls who ran the orphanage in Haiti. The one who was throwing tossed the ball in a big arc, like it was a hand grenade. Still, she got it to the catcher on the fly, and that’s more than you can say about some first pitch honorees.

*The anthem was a local nine-year-old, who has just a killer voice for her age. She got a nice ovation, and deserved it.

*Of the new scoreboard intros for the players, my favorite was one that zoomed in on the players’ hometowns on a map then showed a shot of the player along with a fact about something else that comes from the same town.

*There was a row of flagpoles behind the RF grandstand with flags of our years in the WS (gold for losses, black for wins). Are those new? I don’t remember seeing them before…

by Vlad on Apr 6, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I was wondering the same thing

About those flags. They struck me as new too, which is suggestive.

OTOH, I’m almost certain they had the words for “O Fortuna” last year as well.

I no longer get to (many) games at other parks, so I never know what’s original to PNC and what’s just going around the league. But I thought the intro with the guys watching highlights from last year, then tearing down the projection cloth, was pretty good – especially with Russell watching the WS trophy and tearing it down. I just wish that was meaningful for this year, as opposed to a nice, but unrealized, idea.

Liked the Google Maps, too. I was thinking it would be cool if the “Home of the X” bit changed over the season, but I’m pretty sure some of those towns only have one thing to brag on (“Home of the Big Tree House”?).

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh

The flags didn’t strike me as different. I thought they’d always been there. And I’ve only made it to maybe 3 or 4 games the past three seasons. :-\

by matskralc on Apr 6, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I've really been wondering...

For anyone who was there, what song did Dotel come out to in the ninth?

by jseiner on Apr 6, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t remember, either. I’m trying to go tomorrow night, so I’ll make a note.

by CptnAwesome on Apr 6, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like it

I like it; you’re assuming he’ll be out to close it in the 9th !

by michaelbro8 on Apr 6, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know. Seems like a pessimistic viewpoint to me.

Thinking the Pirates will only be up by 3 runs or less. They’ll probably save Dotel for the first road trip when they will have to get by with less than 10 runs per game.

by MarkInDallas on Apr 6, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting that Ned would get so much criticism

for his bullpen in 2010 when that bullpen was the best in the NL in 2009, helped very much by a Pirate castoff who would have looked out of place in the Dodger bullpen on opening day in 2009. The Dodgers are currently missing two of their top three bullpen pitchers and when they return shortly, some of the names who appeared on opening day will be gone.
For whatever reason the Dodgers over the last decade have taken scrap heap pitchers and found some life still in those arms. It happens every year and so this year it might be Ramon Ortiz.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/3/24/1388499/scrap-heap-gold

We do appreciate the Beimel and Belisario’s you throw our way, if you have any others, be sure to let Ned know.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 6, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

“You” = who? Why do people attempt to deflect criticism of the teams they like by pointing out that the team I like is bad? I’m the first to admit it’s bad.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 6, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did I say your team was bad ?

or even intimate it?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 6, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your last comment...

seemed very much like you were insinuating that the Pirates don’t know what they are doing (in regards to evaluating talent). It also seemed like you came here to pick a fight because someone posted something unflattering about your beloved Ned. You found a diamond in the rough with Bellisario and I don’t much get the Beimel comment. So if you were taking a shot you may be right but that still doesn’t make Charlie’s comments less true. With all of the losing we have experienced over the last seventeen years I can honestly say that I don’t miss Belissario or Beimel for one second.

by Slick1 on Apr 6, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I liked Beimel. I’m glad he made something of himself, and it’s a bit of a shame we dropped him (although I no longer recall the circumstance – it may have been justified at the time).

But that’s neither here nor there.

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he had cool sideburns at one time. That has to be worth 0.5 WAR.

by King Oskar on Apr 6, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, the Pirates dumped him, and then the Twins (a reasonably well-run organization) had him for a year and he was terrible, and they dumped him, and then the Devil Rays had him for a year and he was mediocre, and then they dumped him, and then the Dodgers got him. This raises obvious questions about why the Pirates should have waited like a decade for Beimel to do anything halfway interesting. Even if deflecting criticism of Ned Colletti by pointing out that the Pirates have also done dumb things made any sense, Dave Littlefield didn’t do anything wrong in dumping Beimel, and I say that as someone who was critical of just about everything Littlefield ever did.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 6, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beimel's a weird case

They obviously dropped him because he was about to get some sort of raise in arbitration, which he wasn’t worth.

But his xFIP was exactly the same with the Pirates as it was with the Dodgers. The difference is that, as a Dodger, his ERA was -1.7, -0.77, & -2.75 (!) compared to his xFIP, while it was a bit above his xFIP while he was a Pirate. It’s not obvious what caused those gaps in LA; it wasn’t BABIP (his was .320 in the -2.75 season), and although he had a crazy HR/FB of 0 in 2008, it was 9.3% in 2006, when his ERA was 2.96. His K/BB ratios jumped around, but were generally better (by about 0.25) than in his time in Pittsburgh.

I don’t know if 2006-2009 is small sample size, a fluke, a flaw in xFIP (he was -1.36 last year), or his true talent level. I also don’t know why the Twins and Rays didn’t give him more of a shot (he was fine in 7 appearances with the Rays, albeit with his Ks missing). I note that the Bucs mostly used him as a spot starter/swingman, while the Dodgers used him as a short reliever (by 2008, he was seeing just 3 batters per appearance), which presumably helped his results, even as it made him relatively less valuable.

All of which is to say that the decision to drop him was completely understandable (even if you pretend the Twins/Rays years never happened, his 4th full-time year wouldn’t have been worth an arbitration salary), but that there was no reason to assume he was valueless – frex, his K/9 was improving, and his K/BB was approaching a decent number. It’s an indictment of the arbitration system, not of DL and his baseball people.

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually the point was

 that Ned has done a solid job of finding castoffs and turning them into part of a formidable bullpen. Ned has plenty of weaknesses, building a bullpen is not one of them. Being a Clipper fan I can understand the thin skinned of a team who has been down but I didn’t come here to impugn the Pirates but to point out that the Dodger bullpens somehow find a way of being a strength even if the players they pick are not ones I’d be going after. Given the history, I’d be betting that Ramon Ortiz actually ends up being quite useful this year.

Good luck with your team, you have enough ex-Dodgers that most TBLA fans root for you to succeed.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 6, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

I’m really annoyed at you guys. I’ve always been irritated by ignorant loudmouths at the ballpark, but, having become a regular BD reader, there are now about 20% more comments that I find irritating, such as the guy bitching that Dotel wasn’t throwing strikes with his first 2 pitches. The guy’s a strikethrower! He was probably just a bit hyped.

But anyway, in the past I probably wouldn’t have known that our newest closer is the last guy to pitch around hitters, and so wouldn’t have been as irritated. So thanks for nothing, BD.

OTOH, I was in line with a youngish guy whom I suspect of being a BD reader – he was pretty much spouting party line* on the ignorant pessimism of the local media, of NH’s bullpen approach, of which guys to watch this year…. So ’fess up, any of you who were waiting in the unaccountably slow soda line near the Primanti Bros on the first level.

  • Not intended pejoratively – it was just uncanny how much it sounded like the threads around here

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Your last paragraph, that’s awesome. I guess.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 6, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was sort of weird

I started out with just normal chat, but as each topic* came up, it was more and more like a BD thread. In the end, I didn’t have the guts to ask, but it sure seemed like it.

Maybe I should have said something about Moss vs. Jones, ca. last August.

  • this was another one: Iwamura = Sanchez, but Iwamura trades BB for 1B

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

How soon they forget

I’m surprised this didn’t get mentioned in one of the game threads: the scoreboard at one pointed credited one “Nyger Morgan” with scoring a run (or something) in the Nationals game.

by JRoth95 on Apr 6, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Another point.....

I didn’t check gamecast, but Aki saw A LOT of pitches yesterday and it was great to see that Padila wasn’t going to last more than five. A nice change to start the season.

by David Todd on Apr 6, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully they’ll take the same cue and see a lot of pitches tomorrow. Kershaw gave up 91 free passes in 30 starts last year.

by Adam Reynolds on Apr 6, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clement, too—I don’t recall the specifics, but I remember being (actually) pretty impressed with the AB in which he struck out.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 6, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aki

really impressed me with his ABs. he showed a really good eye on some very close pitches. My friend also commented on how good his Abs were too. For the amount of power he has, it’s even more impressive how many walks he is able to draw.

by Danatural08 on Apr 6, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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