A lot of discussion recently on payroll.  My question is simple, how high do you think the Pirates future payroll will be with the likes of the future talent we currently have.  I would guess that the FO could manage a payroll of about $75mil if they have a winning team contending for playoffs and championships and people are showing up to the ballpark.  We do not live in that small of a market and i would look at a team like the Twins as a good comparitive to what the Pirates could do in terms of payroll