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They have us down for Taillon, and like him best among the non-Harper players, but seem to expect us to pick Machado in the real draft.

Some other interesting stuff in there as well, about late-rising picks. Give it a look.

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…has us taking Machado (Link), and he seems to think that we’re focusing in on Manny.

by Vlad on Jun 3, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Jonathan Mayo...

…also has us taking Machado (Link), though he feels that Taillon is a legitimate possibility as well.

by Vlad on Jun 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

This is at least a little surprising to me…

A few weeks ago, I saw a tweet from Frankie Piliere that said the Pirates didn’t seem to be keen on Taillon—at least not as keen as others are. I wonder if anything on the Pomeranz front has changed in the past week or so…

by Kidspud on Jun 3, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Vlad

Have you read any informed sources that say that the Nationals might pass on Bryce Harper?

Thanks for the link. This mock draft is an interesting read.

by patthatt on Jun 3, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

And I’d be shocked if they did.

by Vlad on Jun 3, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here in DC, the draft news is all Harper. Period.

by WTM on Jun 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goldstein makes Machado sound like a price tag pick, despite being a Boras client. Meh. I think he’s the BPA.

by Adam Reynolds on Jun 3, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick question

Do pitchers or position players rise faster in the minors?

I know each case would be specific to itself, but as a rule, who rises quicker?

by Coxswain on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

If you check the avg. ages in each of the class A leagues (I didn’t look at AAA or AA because there are lots of vets at those levels), pitchers in every league average a couple months older. There could be various reasons for that and injuries almost certainly play a role. This probably shows there isn’t much difference.

by WTM on Jun 3, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is an interesting mock draft but most of the picks dont have true valid points, for example the Rangers are going to overdraft someone at 15 because its not a protected pick.

by dunkuntou on Jun 3, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, I think that's a shrewd point.

Teams focus more on signability for unprotected picks, because if they don’t, the player in question totally has them over a barrel.

by Vlad on Jun 4, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not Sure...
The Pirates may not agree with me, but I would personally take Taillon over Machado for any number of different reasons.

Might be misinterpreting, but it sounds like the author’s saying that he’d personally take Taillon second overall given the chance, but that the listing of Taillon 2nd on the mock draft isn’t necessarily reflective of the Pirates’ actual discussions or even that he necessarily believes that Taillon will factually end up being the pick.

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by Dan H on Jun 4, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

(Which was mentioned in the original post, just saying it doesn’t seem at odds with those many other mock drafts having them down for Machado)

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by Dan H on Jun 4, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a strange turn there. He has been projecting Machado forever, and would stop just short of saying Taillon wasn’t a possibility since they weren’t willing to take HS pitchers early last year. Seems like he must have heard something to change his mind.

by ElDuce on Jun 4, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iiiinteresting.

Wonder what made them shift, if the report is accurate.

Maybe they got a better price tag than they expected from Taillon? Or a worse one from Machado?

by Vlad on Jun 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just posted this in a fanpost below...

Langosh reported that NH had a four meeting with Taillon just last week. I don’t think that happens this late if he isn’t serious about drafting him.

by Slick1 on Jun 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re really getting scared away by price tags in the draft at this point? Paying for the draft’s BPA is worth the cost far more often than not.

by Adam Reynolds on Jun 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, exactly.

If they like both guys about the same, but one costs $2M more than the other, then that’s pretty much a no-brainer.

by Vlad on Jun 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huntington meeting this week

I’m sure it has something to do with the fact that Huntington and Co. spent a decent amount of time with Taillon earlier this week.

How high will Jamo [Jameson Taillon] go? Possibly as high as No. 2 to the Pirates, who flew to Texas an expedition — led by general manager Neal Huntington — to meet with him for nearly four hours earlier this week.

Law could be reading into this, or he could have learned something specific about the conversation. Who knows, but there is likely a correlation.

by Alleghenys on Jun 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

The headline on this article from the mothership amuses me:

“”http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100603&content_id=10770354&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb">Pirates’ plan is to acquire talent from Draft"

You don’t say…

by Vlad on Jun 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

It is kind of a goofy title, but I think the article means that they plan on using the draft to acquire talent going forward rather than trades and whatnot. I guess it kind of makes sense.

by ElDuce on Jun 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

But the headline actually made me laugh out loud when I saw it.

Somebody should’ve dropped it through a time tunnel and shown it to Ed Creech. I’m not sure he ever understood that was the point.

by Vlad on Jun 4, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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