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Mets vs. Pirates, 21 August 2010

New York Mets at Pittsburgh Pirates, Aug 21, 2010 7:05 PM EDT



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New York Mets
@ Pittsburgh Pirates

Saturday, Aug 21, 2010, 7:05 PM EDT
PNC Park

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 90.

 

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Lineups:

Mets:

Reyes – SS
Pagán – LF
Beltrán – CF
Carter – RF
Wright – 3B
Davis – 1B
Thole – C
Tejada – 2B
Niese – P

Pirates:

A. McCutchen – CF
Tabata – LF
Walker – 2B
Jones – 1B
Alvarez – 3B
Doumit – RF
Cedeño – SS
Snyder – C
McDonald – P

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed.

For the past few days, they’ve had a storm pegged for today on the weather.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder how many people in the park (or here) with the Steelers in the Meadowlands tonight.

by NHpiratefan on Aug 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Considering both the Steeler game and the weather, I don’t see there being much of a crowd at the ballpark tonight.

As for here, we’ll see, I guess.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Andy, hit the cut off man!

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Umenyiora takes down Mendy in the backfield.

All the DE’s are killing it today.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

good god that su........

"I choose to gamble with my life

Twice the risk, four times the prize

Nothing knocks me over"

by lighthouse913 on Aug 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

“- C. Carter struck out swinging, J. Reyes scored advancing on throw, A. Pagan to third advancing on throw "

Ummm…what?

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Let me guess...

since I can’t listen to the game. Snyder threw to first to get Carter…the ball got hung up in GIJ’s glove…and the throw back to the plate was late.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

throw down to first,

Snyder must have dropped it; Reyes ran in from third, Snyder looked like he would argue, then realized the ball was still in play, threw to third, well you know the rest….

"I choose to gamble with my life

Twice the risk, four times the prize

Nothing knocks me over"

by lighthouse913 on Aug 21, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus add what thunder guessed above

"I choose to gamble with my life

Twice the risk, four times the prize

Nothing knocks me over"

by lighthouse913 on Aug 21, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

All right...

…but how can that run possibly be earned for McDonald? Ridiculous.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because there was no error or passed ball in the inning.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

The question was more of a “how did they not charge somebody with an error there?” kind of question.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

its just assumed that the Pirates are making errors, so no need to score them anymore.

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice shot Cutch!

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF

How many times does McCutchen have to make the mistake of missing the cutoff?

wg1 – K swinging on ball in dirt, Snyder looks Reyes back and throws to Jones, but Reyes takes off as soon as Snyder turns toward first to throw.

I don’t know why catchers don’t double clutch there to see if they can get the guy coming from third.

by MarkInDallas on Aug 21, 2010 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

It would require catchers to think??

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh.

Doumit probably would have managed to not get an out at all, there, FWIW.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually…Doumit would have thrown the ball to whoever was playing in RF.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say the play was DOH-mit like, there was no out.

Anyway, its raining…

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if you pick the guy coming from third...

…any rundown results in the other runners moving up, putting you in the same situation. I take the out.

Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Aug 21, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except in this case a guy scored.

by MarkInDallas on Aug 21, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the 2nd inning

You get the out and let everything else sort itself out.

Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Aug 21, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except you are forgetting that a 1 run lead is almost insurmountable.

by MarkInDallas on Aug 21, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like letting Gallagher hit last night with 2 runners in scoring position in the 4th inning. Everything will sort itself out…except winning.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what if the pinch hitter doesn't get on?

Then you bring someone in cold and risk injury AND leave the bullpen ravaged.

I’m not saying it was hands down the right mood, but there was sufficient logic behind it that I’m not about to get upset over it.

Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Aug 21, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we would have removed the fastest runner from the bases.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's on third with two outs

You have a runner on third with two outs in either scenario,

Speed becomes irrelevant.

Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Aug 21, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except...

for a ball getting away from the catcher.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cedeno!

Well, if it works, it works…

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

And Snyder K's, of course.

Go McDonald?

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

So gamecast is saying it's 0-0, but gives JMac an earned run...

How is the young pitcher looking?

"It WILL happen."
Bill Mazeroski
June 19th, 2010

by Coxswain on Aug 21, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

It is, indeed, 1-0.

McDonald looking pretty good nonetheless. Not crazy-good or anything, but very solid. The run was earned, but it was not on him.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's 1-0.

He’s looking good. Run was kinda flukey.

by MarkInDallas on Aug 21, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cutch with another two-bagger!

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

didn’t we see all this before, Jose bunts over, etc. in the first?

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that last part, though...

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFW!

Tied up!

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

But why the sacrifices?

I don’t want to pile on JR, but what’s the point of bunting Cutch over from second to third? He’s already in scoring position, he’s going to score on nearly anything. I don’t get it.

by BarryJT on Aug 21, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Bucdugout wisdom again surpasses JR.

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess the idea is for Tabata to reach, but…

…yeah, still stupid.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it was a sacrifice

Playing for one run only on a flyout. JR going for minimum, playing to tie at best.

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were scored sacrifices.

Tabata wasn’t thinking “sacrifice”, though. He was thinking “bunt hit”, and the sacrifice was ultimately a by-product.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course you’d like to get a hit and beat it out, but I assumed JR ordered a bunt both times.

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, probably.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then Tabata should get a talking to...

You don’t bunt for a hit with runners in scoring position…. twice.

by BarryJT on Aug 21, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was there less than two outs?

If so, then a sac fly ties the game…

"It WILL happen."
Bill Mazeroski
June 19th, 2010

by Coxswain on Aug 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

does mcdonald look

perfect in these uni’s or what? i don’t think it’s a race thing, more like height and slenderness. anyway, nevermind

by ludwigthe9th on Aug 21, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

no

all the pirates look stupid. the uniforms are way to baggy, half the guys look like they are wearing a shirt and pant size that is two sizes to big

by C Shint on Aug 21, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think they're baggy

because they’re supposed to be baggy

by ludwigthe9th on Aug 21, 2010 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, gang...

WTF?

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Just in general...

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

you know, the normal buccos. we were able to manufacture a run, so that was new

by C Shint on Aug 21, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

what’s the mysterious energy drink or bar they are talking about the David Wright endorsed?

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh

Pagan looked a little unsteady there.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that should just about do it.

McDonald finally turns in a human outing.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

game doesn’t really count, the ball is wet, its a mess out there.

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Ball is wet for both teams…

by psunate77 on Aug 21, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

UHHH-huhuhuhuhuhuh..

“wet…”

huhuhuhuhuhuuhuhuhuhuhhuhuhuhuhuhuhhhh…

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tough to see J-Mac struggle, but he'll bounce back.

Brightest side: we’re about to be 3.5 games “up” on Baltimore.

by Suffering Buc on Aug 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

crap

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Night...

That was the out call…

by psunate77 on Aug 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

you can see Slim Mac’s changeup not good control due to wet ball.

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Through the wickets!

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

another long night for the bullpen.

by CAGGS on Aug 21, 2010 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Thunder -

what’s our chances?

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

You reply below

is whut I wuz talkin’ ’bout…

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yo you cocktail! game not goin’ good?

by PiratesforMen on Aug 21, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude...

you do realize that “cocktail” refers to an alcoholic beverage, don’t you?

You also realize that nobody is going to respond to you in any other than a derogatory way if you keep on the path you’ve started, right?

If it ain’t about baseball, you will be ignored.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank god

we play in the NL and pitchers hit

by CAGGS on Aug 21, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Umpires have let them play...

4 1/2 innings…so it’s gonna take a monsoon for the the bottom of the 5th to not be completed.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Note...

I didn’t make any guarantees past the 5th inning.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, you're saying there's a chance...

Fair enuf.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

That was a heck of a hop. Went right over him.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

they’ve got to call it, slippery, dangerous at this point

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too late now...

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me see if I have this right...

ignoring…of course…the fact that JMac has thrown 100 pitches.

2 men in scoring position…down 5 in the 4th…pitcher up…no pinch hitter.
no men on…down 4 in the 5th…pitcher up…pinch hitter.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It would seem

that you are correct.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t figure out how we are 40-82 (soon to be 40-83) with JR managing like that. [/sarcasm]

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of random, but...

Cliff Lee got destroyed by the O’s today.

5.2 IP, 10 H, 8 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 4(!) HR. Yeesh.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Allow me to direct you to BTSC, the excellent SBNation Steelers’ blog.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

very cool, thanks…

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ten minutes too late, the game is delayed.

Sigh.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Rain delay?

Cool. Supper’s ready… see you all in a while.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

More like tomorrow.

by Thunder on Aug 21, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

This is a narly storm passing through. Can’t see them playing anytime soon.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, well...

supper was tasty, at least.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Dejan: 8:56: Tabata, freed from the shackles of bunting, doubles down the line.

9:00: Rain really, really coming down.

9:04: This is getting stupid now.

9:05: Finally, the umpires call for the delay, right after Daniel McCutchen asked someone to bring him a towel from the dugout.

The system approaching is worse than this, so I have a feeling 5-1 will be your final. And your club will need to go 23-16 the rest of the way to avoid 100.

Good luck with that.

by BucsFaninCA on Aug 21, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

A Minor League Update of sorts...

Indianapolis down 9-6 in the 9th inning. Moss was 2-4 with a 2B and 2 RBIs, Ciriaco went 2-4, Bowker went 2-3, and Presley was 1-4 with a SB.

Altoona won 10-4. Negrych went 1-3 with a 2B, 2 BBs, and 2 RBIs, Mercer went 3-5 with 3 2Bs and an RBI, Harrison went 2-4 with a 2B and a RBI, and Hague was 2-5 with 2 2Bs and 4 RBIs. Owens’ line: W, 5 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 6 K.

Bradenton down 5-2 in the 6th. Marte 1-3 with a CS. The team has made four errors so far in the game.

West Virginia is up 4-3 in the 9th. Lorin’s line: 4.2 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K. Cunningham 0-5.

State College lost 2-1. Curry went 2-4 with a solo HR. White went 1-3. Fuesser: 4 IP, 5 H, ER, 7 K. Cumpton: 2 innings, no baserunners, one K in his pro debut.

The GCL team won 6-5. Bishop went 2-3 with a 2B, a BB, and 2 RBIs.

Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

by wg1of5 on Aug 21, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

DK tweets:
Dejan_Kovacevic
  
#Pirates #Mets rained out but official: NY wins, 5-1.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 21, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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