Altoona Curve's Broadcaster Quits In The Middle Of Game
by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 26, 2010 4:27 AM EDT
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Zangrilli called the first three innings of Tuesday's game against Erie at Blair County Ballpark, then went off the air, as usual, for the middle innings. His assistant, Mike Passanisi, always handles the middle innings of home broadcasts, and occasionally he stays on for the remainder of the contest when Zangrilli would be handling other duties.
Passanisi stayed on the air for the remainder of the game, and nothing was mentioned about Zangrilli.
"I started the game, and then I wound up -- it became apparent that we weren't going to be able to move forward any longer," Zangrilli said.
I'm sure this is Bob Nutting's fault.
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Was listening
I was listening to the game in the background and noticed the change. I thought Zangrilli was really good. I assumed he would be gone after this year because it’s a stepping stone anyway but this will probably kill his future in baseball.
Yinzers uber alles
I guess he wont be on Joe Bendel's show anymore...
Of course Bendel hasnt updated his podcasts since Monday so it isnt like anyone is going to notice anyway…
I want his job!
I mean, broadcasters start in the minors. I’d kill to start in Double-A
The glare of the spotlight is harsh, and the pressure that success breeds immense. We revere our heroes, but expect much. And criticism can come as easily as praise.
who would want to work for bob nutting?
Just curious if anyone would want to work for this penny pitcher? Another one bites the dust, his story will come out soon enough that he wasn’t getting paid…..you’ll see!
by baseballssp3 on Aug 26, 2010 10:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yes, but
The Curve is owned by Bob Lozinak, its founding owner, who bought it back in 2008 from a management group headed by Chuck Greenberg. That management group included… Mario Lemieux! Clearly, if Lemieux still owned the Curve, this wouldn’t have happened! Sale the Curve to Lemieux and Burkle!
Why the hate?
For Mario…
Guy is probably the best player this city has ever seen? He is now turning into the best owner.
Don’t be jealous that the Pirates will nvere be like the Pens in terms of value or popularity.
Guy is probably the best player this city has ever seen?
Correct
He is now turning into the best owner.
Eh, maybe
Don’t be jealous that the Pirates will nvere be like the Pens in terms of value or popularity.
Wrong, if (big if) the Pirates ever get good again they’ll easily surpass the Penguins in popularity. And according to Forbes the Pirates right now are worth $100 million more than the Penguins.
Are you serious.. You realize the Pens now have a long line for season tickets, the Pirates? Hmmmmm…
And comparing the price of a hockey team to a Baseball team is a joke.
Sucks Pens are again Cup favorites.
I forgot, in this city you can’t be fans of all 3 pro teams, you got to be for one of the other.
No no, you can. But I’m just saying if the Pirates ever get good again (like 90+ wins for 3 straight seasons) they’ll be more popular than the Penguins. Nothing wrong with it, MLB is more popular than the NHL, more old people in Pittsburgh so the demo skews more towards baseball. I’m just sayin’.
Also you’re the one who brought up team values, I’m just proving you wrong.
And last, them being Cup favorites doesn’t really mean anything in terms of their popularity in a hypothetical.
Yes it does..
Pens are way more popular then the Pirates.. Pirates are so irrelevant, its funny..
It kills me to say this, but its true. Hope that turns around, but I am thinking it may never will.
Pens have super stars, sell outs, gets National Coverage, Sells alot of merchandise, they have their players on Commercials Nationally.. Pirates? Not so much.
you do realize
the pens have only been popular for a few years now and all the superstars sell outs etc were not here five years ago? who is to say the bucs dont turn it around? if they did, id bet they’d be much more popular based on history alone.
If.. If.. If…
If.. If.. If…The Pirates have a ways to go to turn it around. Some of us sadly may never see it..
Some of us sadly may never see it
True, but aren’t you 14?
by BurgherKing on Aug 27, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
how popular were the pens when they sucked?
dead last in the league in attendance during the 03-04 season. record that year? 23-47-8-4.
And..
They turned it around.. Pirates on the other hand… Haven’t and sadly it may be many years before they do.
The comparison is pretty bad right now. Pens have fire power, improve their team yearly, and the Pirates don’t. They have a history of signing garbage, drafting poorly (even though the last few years have been better)
yeah
the pens built through the draft, just as the pirates are doing. the difference is, a hockey draftee can step in within a year or two and make a difference. It takes longer for MLB prospects to mature to major league stardom.
The pirates have a history of signing garbage before this FO was put in place. the last three drafts are widely regarded as very successful. Theyre building through the draft, just as the pens did.
before the salary cap
the pens couldnt do any of those things. they do have a history of signing and drafting garbage. does rico fata, robert dome or milian kraft ring a bell?
Guy is probably the best hockeyplayer this city has ever seen?
.
He is now turning into the best hockey owner.
…Just thought I’d tighten those up for you.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this the "real" psunate,
or are we being barraged by the hijacker again?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
hhaha..
This is real one.. Mario way better then Gretzky.. Give Mario the all star cast Wayne had in his young years and Mario stats would crush Wayne.
Mario put up huge points playing with Warren Young and Doug Shedden,
I have been a Pens Season Ticket holder for last 15 years, I love the Bucs, but the comparison between ownerships is crazy and funny.
Mario has done more for Pittsburgh then Nutting has done for his family.
But again, I forgot, Pirates are better, will always be.. HAHAHA..
What I meant was
Mario is the best HOCKEY player Pittsburgh has seen.
Certainly, you’d get some heated discussion on who the best PITTSBURGH player / athlete is / was. Personally, I’d put Clemente ahead of him. I’m sure others have their own choices.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul Waner
He wore my baseball number.
by BlindSquirrel on Aug 26, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Mario is by far better...
Then Clemente… Mario was by far the most dominating player in his sport for a while.. Clemente was good, but he was nowhere near Mario.
Hasn’t this been voted on many times with Mario #1 and Clemente #2..
Plus Mario has done for more Pittsburgh then Roberto did..
Clemente wasn't even the most dominant PIRATE of all time
That probably goes to Honus Wagner, though some people in Pittsburgh probably haven’t even heard of him.
I would certainly put Mario up there.
Honus Wagner was maybe a better player, then Mario. It’s tough to say that he’s turning into the best owner just yet. The test of that will be how he navigates the Pens’ core as they age.
Dan Rooney is my vote for best owner, then John Galbreath. Each won multiple championships over decades of time with changing core players.
I love Mario, but there’s a long way to go before he ascends that pedestal.
by MarkInDallas on Aug 27, 2010 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
"Guy is probably the best player this city has ever seen?"
Maybe… as long as you don’t count Honus Wagner.
Possibly not though
In terms of talent/longevity combo, Mario was probably top 3 player in the history of the game, POSSIBLY the best ever depending on your evaluation of best. When he retired the first time he held the record for best points per game in NHL history and he did this while battling Hodgkins. That is saying a lot. A lot of Pirates fans just might not get that Mario wasn’t just the best player in Pens history, but could be best all-time. I don’t see people nowadays who put Honus Wagner as the best baseball player of all-time, though he at least had a case in some people’s eyes at one point. I don’t think many serious baseball people would tell you Clemente was better than Babe Ruth or Ted Williams.
That's what Nutting wants you to think
Is it any coincidence that we’ve never seen Bob Nutting and Bob Lozinak in the same place at the same time? Or that they’re both named Bob?
Most of the time when I say this, I’m just insulting people.
Not this time. Now I’m making an observation — you’re an idiot.
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
"I choose to gamble with my life
Twice the risk, four times the prize
Nothing knocks me over"
by lighthouse913 on Aug 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I do it too much. I’ll try to lay off in the future — with exceptions, of course.
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well
me. Listen man, working in baseball, you don’t make a lot of money. That’s the reality of sports and entertainment management. You work your ass off and you don’t get paid alot. But I would KILL to be the broadcaster there
The glare of the spotlight is harsh, and the pressure that success breeds immense. We revere our heroes, but expect much. And criticism can come as easily as praise.
Strange
I went to college with Dan and know him a little … this is pretty shocking stuff. There’s got to be more to the story that we don’t know.
Sell Nutting
Well, Well… if it isn’t ryebr3ad. Yes. It is I… the one you call “idiot” while your praise your scroogelike leader of 18 consecutive losing seasons……….
Keep defending, keep attending, and keep losing rye……
Leader of three of those seasons.
But yeah, you about hit the nail on the head. Should we still beware of James McDonald?
Shouldn’t you be on twitter bothering Keith Law?
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Also, I praise the team as a whole — I could care less about the owner, as long as he isn’t McClatchy.
But that’s the problem with idiots, you know. Just keep seeing things the way you want to see them.
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ummm get your poster right keyboard muscles…… and please Nutting was the puppet for McClatchy for most of those year, but keep buying the bull crap, keep enjoying the fireworks, keep buying your pop, soft pretzels….. and enjoy the night out at the ’ol ballpark.
Just remember 18 and counting kid
I didn’t realize minority owners held so much power over a team.
Oh, and for the record, we’re all Pirates fans here. No need to tell us the team loses, since we’re aware of it.
Of course, only an idiot would assume everyone is as dumb ad himself. Do you see the recurring theme of my posts directed towards you?
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Point of order, Mr. Chairman...
I’d like to second the idiot moniker for BFD1. Does this require a vote?
Nutters
Minority my ass……. you need to read up on the history of your leader.
It’s not the losing that is the disgrace. It is the fleecing of the fans, MLB and the city.
The guy needs to go if you ever want baseball restored in this town, but that is not what you clowns want. You want to follow your leader. Seriously, how much does nutting pay you to post this nonsense?
Seriously
how much does Ron Cook pay you to post yours?
The glare of the spotlight is harsh, and the pressure that success breeds immense. We revere our heroes, but expect much. And criticism can come as easily as praise.
Nutting
Doesn’t everyone know that Nutting is on the Trilateral Commission and is also a Bilderberger? Nutting controls the whole world from a shack near Connelsville.
/snark
Yinzers uber alles
When you say a shack
I’m guessing you mean the Death Star.
Nutting is too cheap to pay people to post nonsense. The ironic part is that the nonsense flows regardless.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Aug 26, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You probably don't realize this...
but your IP address can be verified by Charlie to see if you’re one of the previously banned trolls.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you mean
“yet-to-be-banned” troll…
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Or was that what I meant?
Oh, no – see how cornfoozed am I about this whole mess?
Never should have removed the tinfoil.
DAMN YOU, NUTTING !!! GET OUT OF MY BRANE!!!
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a man who probably thinks every Pirates win from now until the end of the season is a plan by Nutting to make sure money doesn’t have to be spent on the first overall pick.
If a vote is required, evidence is easy to come by.
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha… I knew you all were Cook haters since he speaks the truth……..
I know Nutting is sweating it, hoping this team can climb its way outta the cellar all the way into 2nd to last place.
100+ losses or bust.
Tell uncle OGden I said hi Nutbag
Evidence A
Keep it coming. Also, This is from my iPhone, meaning I’m in the sunlight wearing a pair of pants. I feel this is something beyond the scope of your doing, considering the aliens might get you if you leave your tin foil roofed shack.
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
One example of Ron Cook speaking the truth:
It’s very simple: Simon is a steal
Fine work there, Ron. Tell it to the man!
There’s something truly special about a thread on the Altoona broadcaster turning into another Nutting-as-Snidely-Whiplash thread.
For what it's worth
Has anyone ever actually SEEN Snidely Whiplash and Bob Nutting in the same room at the same time? Didn’t think so.
by Superstar25 on Aug 27, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
"Nutting was the puppet for McClatchy for most of those year"
So you’re saying that McClatchy is still secretly pulling the strings, even though he’s already sold his share of the team?
That’s crazy, but at least a new and unusual kind of crazy, I guess.
I think he meant the reverse of what he said. Which still doesn’t make sense, but that’s how those people think.
by MarkInDallas on Aug 26, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not surprised by this..
When I interned for the spikes back in ’07, Dan and my boss, the production director, nearly came to blows in the press box before a game. they were both at fault, but in my recollection it was one of those fights that started for no real worthwhile reason.
iphone – yes, yes fantsy man…. you have an iphone. Everyone knows now….. very impressed. Have you gotten your “job in baseball yet” or is that what this nonsense is that you post?
I’m a software programmer, if you must know. But yes, I’m getting paid to call people idiots. I just write a Perl script to do it all for me.
by ryebr3ad on Aug 26, 2010 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Congrats
Your the first person I ever met with an online Napoleon Complex. Perhaps you should change your name to ShortShit1.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I also
Knew Dan a little bit in college and after when he started working for the spikes and then the curve.
Basically, without divulging too much information, Dan felt that the ownership that took over for greenburg was too cheap. From what I was told they refused to give him any sort of comp time despite his long hours and but I think it was just a number of small things building up over time. His departure will also probably cost the curve a $10,000 advertising partnership with Clarion University.
That being said, leaving during the middle of a game is ridiculous. I think he may have let his ego get in the way here and burned more than a few bridges by doing this.
It seems like the world of baseball broadcasting is a little small to be doing that kind of stuff, no matter how right you may be.
by MarkInDallas on Aug 26, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Have all of the tools been banned from PG plus?
it’s as if they are running around without homes these days!
NutHo was banned, I don’t recall daquido ever joining, and BFD was either banned or didn’t join.
by MarkInDallas on Aug 26, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Daquido joined and was banned.
BFD graced us with his presence in this topic.
Now they bitch about us on Twitter.
wow non news
Wow this is the biggest non-news story ever
by KeepingtheFaith on Aug 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
Ironically
I do not have an iPhone… why must you assume all “fantsy men” have an iPhone?
Winnar!
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
What a sad group of trolls.
Nothing better to do than come to a forum where they know their particular brand of idiocy is not going to be accepted and get people here all riled up.
They got the Smizik blog, the Facebook group and the Pirates.com website to go and troll at with the rest of the trolls who basically run the comment sections on those websites, but they want to make this another breeding ground for their idiocy.
I think it’d be best to just ignore them and after a while, they’ll just go away.
by IAPiratesFan on Aug 26, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
???
And by “ignore,” you mean throw your own random thoughts in the mix and continue the nonsense by making comments regarding them?
Yes, you are helping to “make it go away.”
-1
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 26, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
shuddup mr. fantsy man ;-)
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Dear Mr. Fantsy
“…play us a tune, something to make us all happy…. sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy!”… Winwood/Capaldi
OH, the angst, of waiting for talent to develop and ripen.
Troll -- definition
1. To fish by trailing a line, as from a moving boat.
E.g., “I’m sure this is Bob Nutting’s fault,” dangled at the end of a post related to a bit of non-news about minor league broadcasting.
Most of the posts in this thread are from the Bucs Dugout pro-Nutting/Huntington crowd. Many of them are trolling posts, posts in which the poster is openly fishing for anti-Nutting remarks. The rest consist of the members of same crowd celebrating a catch with tired lines about “tinfoil hats” and “new kinds of crazy” and patting each other on the back for being superior to the hoi polloi.
Good stuff, gents.
Actually
It started with an anti-Nutting remark before anything else, but I really don’t care.
Ironically
The standard method of trolling is to post an argument that the poster knows will provoke the opposite argument. Charlie’s comment was ironic — he was hardly inviting anybody to argue that the announcer quitting was Nutting’s fault, because it’s such an obviously stupid argument to make. When I saw Charlie’s comment, it didn’t even occur to me that somebody would be that big an idiot, but sure enough, after a few comments about the broadcaster, that big an idiot came along.
Charlie’s only crime was overestimating the intelligence of the Nutting bashers.
Exactly
BFD found this topic on his own. I’m sure an ironic line was what baited him into this topic. Please. This is as asinine as assuming Heredia was acquired by unethical means.
What was the point of the ironic line --
If not to bait the targets of his mockery?
by RafaelBelliup on Aug 26, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Charlie's site
So he can do what he wants.
But trolling is trolling. Inviting a silly debate with a baited line so that the hip crowd can conclude (once more) that they’ve committed the “crime” of “overestimating the intelligence of the Nutting bashers” is the very definition of trolling.
by RafaelBelliup on Aug 26, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I understand the situation
The leak of the Pirates financial information brought out some decent debates and discussion, for once partially informed debates and discussion, about the state of affairs.
There is a desire to return now to baiting, trite and straw arguments, and mockery of the other side.
by RafaelBelliup on Aug 26, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Hardly. Good debate was the most refreshing thing I have seen on this site in a long while.
But, I must admit — throwing pejoratives around also entertains my trite and simple mind. But why ‘troll’ for posters that deserve such treatment when one makes a fan post describing the record of the team to us and the other plagiarizes two articles in two separate fan posts?
Think about it this way
If somebody posted a story about, I dunno, somebody saving a child from a burning building, and added, “I suppose Bob Nutting should get the credit for this,” what are the odds that a poster would seriously argue that he should?
Nobody was inviting a debate. Nobody could have expected anybody would actually respond seriously to that line.
Damn. Once again
You’ve overestimated the logical capacity of your opponents.
by MarkInDallas on Aug 27, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh
But trolling (by the owner/operator of a fan site) is (still) trolling (even though we tend to think of people who troll on fan sites as unwelcome).
Pretty clear the first time.
by RafaelBelliup on Aug 27, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally
I enjoy these threads. Of course I also enjoy reading Smizer’s blog and the posters repetitive comments on said blog. Not for everyone I know. I particularly enjoyed the time earlier this season when MarkInDallas made the foray into the land of the misguided, great entertainment IMO.
This is a time to have fun with the troll. Keep the /sarcasm and /snark flowing.
Did he pop the emergency hatch, grab 2 beers and slide down an inflatable chute?
Cause that would have been awesome.
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