What's up with Nyjer??
If you haven't seen it, check out MLB.TV or ESPN for the brawl triggered by Nyjer. Has he forgotten that he's playing baseball, not hockey? A quick summary....
A few days ago (I didn't notice it at the time) Nyjer throws a hard shoulder into the Cardinals catcher as he crosses home plate. He was kept out of the game the next day because his manager said "they're gonna' throw at him."
Sometime recently, he threw a ball into the crowd and got a warning or suspension.
A few days ago, he levelled the Marlins' catcher when he had room to slide safely. Apparently, the rookie catcher is likely out for the season. While not necessarily a dirty play, you have to wonder why he threw a shoulder into the catcher when he could have slud easily.
So, tonight he gets hit once or twice. The Nats are down by a typical Bucs score - 14-3 or something. Nyjer stills second, then stills third, going hard both times.
So the next at bat, Volstad throws a foot behind Nyjers butt, missing him. Nyjer gives a twirl of the bat, then sprints at Volstad and gets of a clean, clear punch. Gaby Sanchez lays out Nyjer like Troy Polamalu decking a wide receiver. The benches clear. As he's going off the field, Nyjer pulls a World Wrestling move, yelling at the Marlins fans....
Any amatuer psychologists out there? What's up with Nyjer?
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I don’t know that I’ve ever seen this kind of ongoing complete and total meltdown from a player. He’s obviously got a suspension coming from this, and still has the 7 game suspension for throwing a ball at a fan waiting on appeal. His hearing on that isn’t scheduled until September 7, but I would be somewhat surprised if they (either the team or the league) allow him to play in the Pirates series this weekend.
my new favorite word
“slud”.
Nyjer’s always been a high-energy guy. the weight of a full season on a bad Nats team wearing on him? who knows?
I think actually the 2010 Nats
are the best team Nyjer has ever played for.
lol yeah thats true
he’s hit his boiling point then, i guess
Yup.
And always one of my favorites.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
+16
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
heh.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
You meant 256, right?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Nyjer, always have.
So happy from both a on the field and off the field prospective.
He is one of the worst players to put on a Pirate Uniform in my lifetime when everything is considered.
I wish him only the worst.
Nyjer is a dingo?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
strewth!
too right bloke!
He seems like he’s got a few Roos loose in the top paddock!
by BlindSquirrel on Sep 2, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He really is just melting down. Probably after last season, when everyone loved him, he is not dealing well with this season’s failures. Without checking, his BA alone is about .100 below last year when he was on fire. This is the first time he has experienced any level of failure and he is not dealing well with it. With that said, I’m completely accepting the Milledge-Morgan trade as a success now that we have seen this side of him. I’d be embarrassed if he was a Pirate.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
Probably after last season, when everyone loved him, he is not dealing well with this season’s failures.
But just about every Nats fan I’ve talked to loves him, even though he’s sucked this year.
http://www.whygavs.com
http://mlb.fanhouse.com
You can be loved by everybody,
but hate yourself. He knows he isn’t playing as well as last year.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Sep 2, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
but do they love nyjer morgan?
or tony plush??? cuz “tony plush charged the mound, not nyjer morgan”…
Here is the video link
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300901128
I laughed out loud when I saw Sanchez DESTROY him. Great clip I’m saving this.
I have Sanchez on my fantasy baseball team, maybe should see if I can have him on my fantasy football team as well. lol
Do you have a WWF Fantasy League?
’Coz that clothesline could be a good setup for a finishing move.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's a link from Deadspin
With hilariously homer-y announcing from the Marlins’ broadcasters.
http://deadspin.com/5628076/finally-a-baseball-fight-that-doesnt-disappoint
To be fair to Nyjer
He had already been hit once. They supposedly threw at him for stealing 2nd and 3rd afterwards when the Nats were down 11, but it was the 4th inning. Volstad had already plunked two other guys as well.
Oh bullshit
Morgan was absolutely right to do what he did in this game. I’ll set aside the previous stuff – sounds like he’s trying to get out his frustration with raw physical aggression, and probably crossed a line or three – but for them to throw at him twice in a game? Because he stole bases? Fuck that shit. Volstad got what he deserved.
Also, I wouldn’t mind seeing Sanchez take on Morgan when Morgan’s actually looking at him. I don’t really count blindsiding a guy as a manly move, but maybe that’s just me.
by JRoth95 on Sep 2, 2010 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I agree. As far as this game goes, they beaned two other players, then beaned Nyjer, then threw behind him. I think Volstad got what was coming.
The other crap he’s been up to speaks to his frustration probably with how poorly he is playing this year, and some of that stuff it bogus, but I can’t fault him for charging Volstad here.
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by poorboywilly on Sep 2, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
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Exactly
I won’t give Sanchez too much crap, because he’s protecting his guy, and Nyjer has to know the 1B is coming at him. But Volstad? He already hit him once, as well as two other guys.
I can understand it being uncouth to steal bases while ahead by 10 runs, but behind? Never heard of that being the least bit untoward.
I agree.
If they don’t like Nyjer stealing bases, they should have stopped him.
by IAPiratesFan on Sep 2, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Stealing second and third down 11 runs is pretty stupid from a strategy standpoint, though the Nationals probably should have been more upset with him than the Marlins. The gain from stealing the base is pretty minimal and not nearly offset by the risk he’s taking.
It's undoubtedly poor strategy
and he’s lucky it happened to work out, but it’s not as though it’s particularly unsporting.
what did Volstad get?
MORGAN got what he deserved… a MachoMan style clothesline from the top rope, brudder!!! oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah….
sanchez was protecting his pitcher
plain and simple. even though morgan’s punch on volstad wouldnt have knocked over don zimmer
"Blindsiding"?

Who knew that Nyjer’s front side was his blind side?
I mean, it would be hard for him to be facing Sanchez any more squarely than he was…
Who knew that Nyjer’s front side was his blind side?
Anyone who watched him run the bases.
by maguro on Sep 2, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
Rec'd.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
that may have been the best hit of the game
that brawl was amazing, we could have a new rivarly on our hands. Not a very interesting rivarly but a rivalry none the less
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WTF are you looking at?
You know what a batting helmet looks like, right? Has a brim sticking out front? A brim that, in this picture, is only just visible, because Nyjer is facing Volstad, the guy that he’s fighting? For comparison, note how Sanchez’ brim is sticking straight out in profile, because he’s facing Morgan as he runs at him full speed.
So yes, Sanchez didn’t literally jump him from behind. But Morgan is facing the guy he’s actually fighting, and Sanchez clocks him in the side of the head. Because his head wasn’t facing Sanchez.
Perhaps you think that the eyes are located in the shoulders? Because you’re certainly correct that Morgan’s shoulders were facing Sanchez. They certainly should have seen him coming. But the eyes located in the front of Nyjer’s face, not so much.
Oh, for Pete's sake.
Volstad was moving left to right across Nyjer’s field of vision as the two circled each other – meaning that he passed directly in front of the charging Sanchez. Which means, in turn, that if Nyjer was looking at Volstad, he got two great opportunities to see Sanchez running directly toward him (i.e when he was immediately to Volstad’s left/right). If Nyjer wasn’t paying attention to his surroundings (which is like rule #1 in a bar fight – keep your head on a swivel), then that’s his own damn fault.
Just for reference:
Since the hat is, for you, the relevant factor, here’s a screencap with Nyjer’s hat pointed directly at Sanchez.

He then turned to look at Volstad instead of focusing on the guy charging him at a dead run, which proved to be a poor tactical decision. C’est la vie.
I think it's academic.
Back in my younger days, if a friend of mine was being chraged by someone who had the intent to hurt them, I would have done something similar to Sanchez.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
why does it matter?
nyjer threw a weak punch, especially from a former hockey goon, kissed Volstad on the cheek, then got crunched into the boards. game over, nyjer. little big man.
If only they had someone with his head more together and without the propensity to get in trouble. Someone like Lastings Milledge. If only
remember how the pirates
were getting the troubled child in milledge, while the nats got the older/mature nyjer? HA!
Actually the whole story with the Cardinals catcher is even funnier. Nyjer tried to run him over when there was no play at the plate, and in the process forgot to touch home. Pudge Rodriguez had to grab hold of him and turn him back towards the plate, but then Nyjer was called out for touching a runner ahead of him. Check out the video.
Oh Damn!
I saw the play but didn’t realize he got called out for that. He had to be the dumbest person in baseball. I see that he is still sliding head 1st into the bag. What a moron.
I don't know about that; there are some other canditates
In a playoff game with the Red Sox, Miguel Tejada ran into the Sox third baseman while rounding third and then stopped half way between third and home to argue that he had been interferred with. He was tagged out while making his argument and no interference was called. It appeared that he could have scored easily despite the contact if he had just continued home.
by WestCoastBuc on Sep 2, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
There was NO reason
for him to come in contact with that catcher. At all.
In fact, if you watch again, the catcher is starting to step away from the plate as Morgan crosses it.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes...
I was more pissed off him running in to the Cardinals catcher than any of the other plays (not including the fan incident).
Apparently he was throwing it to a kid in the crowd and missed.
I particularly enjored the comment: “Sigh, even when tossing one into the stands Nyjer overthrows the cutoff man …”
by BlindSquirrel on Sep 2, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I had totally condemmed. Guess there are always two sides to every story. He’s looking less like an asshole and more like a guy having an unfortunate week. Not to say he hasn’t contributed with some really stupid decisions.
There's STILL no excuse
for running that catcher.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
That was awful and he really deserved to have his ass kicked that game. But now we are talking about one incident vs a trend of bad behavior. Hell it was getting to the point where Morgan’s family must have been thinking about staging an intervention.
You have to remember
that this is a clown who refers to himself as “Tony Plush”.
Most 30 y/o men do not have imaginary alter egos.. Nyjer has some serious maturity issues,
"Most 30 y/o men do not have imaginary alter egos."
Says a guy who goes by ANON 4 THIS.
Called out by a 53 y/o guy who goes by bucdaddy.
I'm a squirrel...
honestly. I taught myself english and baseball.
So there.
by BlindSquirrel on Sep 2, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I always imagine that you really ARE a squirrel when you post.
Just thought I’d share that ridiculous information.
I really am a giant hit of good LSD. I’m also an excellent 60’s rock band.
YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!!
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by Wizard of Woz on Sep 3, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna ask Ron Mexico,
and get back to you on this.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Nyjer had also run over the Marlins catcher (Baker) the night before…separating Baker’s shoulder and likely putting him out for the year…which was given as the reason he got drilled the first time last night. Stealing 2 bases down 11 runs is considered against the unwritten code of baseball…which garnered the pitch behind the back…and I’ve seen reports that he was also shouting at the Marlins fans after he scored the run after the SBs. In addition to the wrestling or hockey “heel” display after the fight.
Morgan had been called “unprofessional” by his own manager after he ran the Cardinals catcher over the weekend. On top of the throwing the ball in the stands and hitting the fan prior to that. Ryan Zimmerman wasn’t happy with him either over his actions of the last 8 days. But Zimmerman gave him the excuse “He’s still learning the game”.
When you have played professional baseball for 8 seasons (portions of 4 in the majors)…you are NOT “still learning the game”.
Nyjer may be trying to motivate his teammates…but he’s not playing hockey. And with his actions of the last 8 or 9 days, he’s very likely looking at spending a significant portion of September suspended. He’s already got 7 games for the ball throwing incident…which he has appealed (hearing is on Tuesday)…and probably looking at 5 games for this incident, which will not help his appeal. The Nats have 28 games left…and he’s going to miss close to half of them. On top of that, he’s been sitting the bench a fair amount the last few weeks. Nice way for the Nats to finish their season.
by Thunder on Sep 2, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
nyjer thumped his chest when leaving the field
he knew he was on camera. its not pumping up his teammates, its making a fool out of yourself, and not in a good way either. i dont blame guys for getting upset when they think they are being thrown at, but grow the hell up already. youre not Tony Plush, get rid of the elvis wig, and stop thinking that the pirates lost something when they traded you. DONE.
That unwritten book of rules
has gotten to be about 20 lbs. What an enormous waste pond to claim that a team that is getting beaten has to take it.
Yeah...
I have never heard that when you are down eleven runs you have to stop trying to win the game. I don’t think there is such a rule. The only thing I can see is that if the other team had called off the dogs and started subbing players and were playing station to station baseball. But even in that case it was only the 6th inning and far too early to be throwing up the white flag.
One correction...
the injured Marlins catcher was Hayes, not Baker.
That's too bad.
Hayes is a minor league lifer who probably won’t see the majors again after this year, and Baker’s a jerk who built his career on a syringe.
[And no, I’m not throwing around unsupported accusations about Baker. He has a positive test on his record, and I also know one of his former teammates, who told me that Baker used for years.]
I think he's narcissistic.
I qualify this by saying I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist. I have, however, taken to psychology courses in undergrad about 11 years ago. So I clearly know what I am talking about.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
BTW...
while looking at Nyjer’s fielding numbers on fangraphs (UZR is right around 0)…I discovered something else…which is somewhat pertinent to Nyjer, since he played LF for the Pirates.
We’ve talked about the “no triples” defense the Pirates have used at home, and how it skewed Morgan’s numbers positively and made him look like the best thing since sliced bread on defense.
Jose Tabata has played over 500 innings in LF with the Pirates. Using that as a baseline (500 innings)…he leads ALL NL LF’s in UZR and UZR/150. He only trails Brett Gardner and Carl Crawford in the majors. Tabata is good defensively, but I doubt he’s THAT good.
"Tabata is good defensively, but I doubt he’s THAT good."
I think he is “that good,” seriously.
Maybe
He hasn’t shown anything to say the defensive numbers aren’t believable.
Too small a sample size...
to draw conclusions either way. He definitely has the range and arm to be one of the better fielders. We’ll have to wait and see. That said, I haven’t liked what I have seen from him when he fills in CF. Could be just lack of reps but he doesn’t look as sure of himself. Either way, Tabata has way exceeded my expectations and his numbers have been almost identical to what they were in Indy. Pleasant surprise.
It's possible.
I wouldn’t want to draw too many conclusions yet, but it’s certainly not implausible that a career-long CF playing LF might be a very good defensive LF.
Subjectively, though...
…he sure looks good out there, doesn’t he?
Just wish he got a chance to throw more often.
Unrelated, but
UZR also says Neil Walker is the worst 2B in the National League (other than Aki), and the worst in the majors to go over 300 innings.
In both cases it’s probably too small a sample to say much about it.
Although Walker may not be doing spectacularly at 2B now...
There is considerable likelihood that he will improve, since he has only played the position for about 4 months.
I think he will improve some...
but he just doesn’t seem to have the quickness needed for the position which is why is range is so limited. More than enough range for 3B but I just don’t seem him approaching average as of right now. I don’t know, maybe there is an offseason program that he can get on to improve his quickness. I’m hopeful but very skeptical. I absolutely love the bat at second base though.
Nyjer was also great defensively in CF last year for the Nationals.
So, you can’t draw any conclusions from his LF UZR with the Bucs and his UZR this year with the Nats. It’s been pretty clear that he was not very good defensively in CF for much of this year, and his UZR reflected that.
Last year, he was great at the plate and in the field. This year he has not been good, either at the plate or in the field.
I buy that Bautista will hit 30+ bombs next season due to adjustments made in 2009. It’s not like he was ever a low-HR guy. He only had 600 PAs once before this season, I believe.
by Adam Reynolds on Sep 2, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
what do you want to put on it?
Joey Bats +/-31 hr next year
I’ll take the under
by Wizard of Woz on Sep 3, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually not a good career move for a guy with a .635 OPS to act out like this
And Riggleman seems like he’s pretty tired of dealing with Nyjer-related issues. He’d better get his emotions under control in a hurry or he’s going to be looking for a job next season.
I'd guess that he suffers from some form
of bi-polar disorder and stress somewhere in his life has triggered a manic episode.
If he acted liked this all of the time your explanation would make sense
It sounds like you simply want to think the worst of him.
by WestCoastBuc on Sep 3, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it's because I was diagnosed as bipolar, and know others who are,
and none of us are this violent or full of ourselves. Just because someone goes from happy to irate and crazy, doesn’t mean they’re bipolar. That’s an odd diagnosis to throw on someone in this case.
it's sad
I liked Nyjer as a fan. Nyjer is out of control and it seems like something has happened mentally. I doubt he is in the majors next year.
Yinzers uber alles
I don't have anything against Nyjer.
And I don’t take any special pleasure in seeing him get laid out. But it’s hard to see that he has any real grounds for complaint here. He went looking for a fight, and he found one.
by Vlad on Sep 2, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Goes back a ways.....
Here’s one of Nyjer wanting to get into a fight, back in his minor league days…..after Ryan Doumit got hit no less…..perhaps an anger management class is in order???
Anger Management is bullshit.
There has been any long term studies showing any sort of real benefit in taking anger management classes.
Someone should just tell him to just relax and cool off a bit.
commentators said that Morgan was being "egged on" by some of the Norfolk players...
from what we know now, thats as dumb as anything Dibble has said this week… by the way, have fun sitting at home Dibble. once again, your mouth gets in the way of what little talent youve ever had.
once again, your mouth gets in the way of what little talent youve(sic) ever had.
Is that irony given that we’re also talking about Nyjer?
by BlindSquirrel on Sep 2, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I got that, and thought it was funny...
even if nobody else deigned to comment on it.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 3, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never liked Nyj and was glad when the team sent him packing.
And I’m especially glad Tabata is our man in left. I hope he can stay healthy and focused for years to come.
To say it in the words of Orioles fan Elaine Benes
This is violent, psychotic behavior.
On Tony Bruno's show the other night
He said Nyjer had overslud second and third on the steals in an attempt to injure the fielders there.
Tony Bruno obviously does not watch many Pirates games.
I get all my orthopedic advice from Dr. Rob Dibble
Suspensions
Nyjer Morgan: 8 games
Chris Volstad: 6 games
Alex Sanabia: 5 games
Gaby Sanchez: 3 games
Doug Slaten: 3 games
Nyjer’s other 7 gamer is still pending.
So basically Morgan's season is practically over,
and he’ll probably be looking for a new home soon. Sucks to be him.

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