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The 2008: The Beginning of the Beginning?
Several people have noted that NH’s first draft looks like a good one. Charlie commented that 14 players still look like viable candidates, and players from the 2008 draft have formed the core of the 2010 Altoona and 2009 Lynchburg championship teams.
So let’s take a look at that draft in some detail. NH led with two aggressive moves that were new to Pirate fans: drafting the best player available even though he was represented by Scott Boras and taking a flyer on a high-upside, but injured player. The first has worked out; the second did not. In rounds 3-5 NH selected Jordy Mercer, Chase d’Arnaud, and Justin Wilson. All three are prospects. What is interesting is that several players drafted after the fifth round may still be legitimate prospects. My personal dark horse is Tyler Cox, who was drafted in the 35th round. Who has impressed you? Why?
For your browsing pleasure I’ve included a brief comment about all 50 players who were drafted. That includes the round and draft number for each player, their announced position when drafted and where they played. Players who signed are bolded. Those who are active and in the minors are linked to WTM’s insightful commentary and data.
1(2), Pedro Alvarez, 3B, Vanderbilt. Playing third for the Bucs, but might turn into a better offensive and defensive first baseman than Ryan Howard.
2(48), Tanner Scheppers, RHP, Fresno State. Now a top prospect of the Rangers, but wanted first-round money to sign in 2008 while injured. Still varying opinions about him.
3(79), Jordy Mercer SS, Oklahoma State. Had an OPS of 699 at Altoona last year, keeping offensive worries alive. Seems to be a capable shortstop, so he might make the majors.
4(114), Chase d'Arnaud SS, Pepperdine. Had a disappointing offensive year at AA, with dreadful BABIP and an OPS of only 709. With even a moderate rebound he'll make the majors.
5(144), Justin Wilson LHP, Fresno State. Reduced his FIP from 4.90 to 3.49 at AA. John Sickles's #9 prospect, who notes that "he does need to lower his walk rate."
6(174), Robbie Grossman OF, Cypress-Fairbanks HS, Cypress, TX. Had an OPS of 683 at Bradenton last year. Seems to be a capable center fielder. Reduced his strikeout rate from 31% to 21%, which is still too high.
7(204), Benji Gonzalez SS, PRBA, Gurabo, P.R. A glove-first shortstop who still has not hit. Had an OPS of 579 at WV, though the second half was better than the dreadful first half.
8(234), Jeremy Farrell 3B, Virginia. Had an OPS of 856 at Bradenton and was mid-season all star. Missed time due to injury. Still may be a prospect, but may need to move from third.
9(264), Matt Hague 3B, Oklahoma State. Had an OPS of 819 at Altoona (14th in league),. Still a prospect, but will have to show more power.
10(294), Drew Gagnon RHP, Liberty HS, Brentwood, CA. DNS
11(324), David Rubinstein OF, Appalachian State. Had an OPS of 755 at West Virginia. He may still be a prospect, though he's getting a bit old for his level.
12(354), Calvin Anderson 1B, Southern. A huge (and apparently poor fielding), first baseman who had an OPS of 720 and 141 K at Bradenton.
13(384), Seth Gardner OF, Highland Park HS, Dallas. DNS
14(414), Mike Colla RHP, Arizona. A reliever at Bradenton and Altoona with unimpressive FIP but decent BB and K rates.
15(444), Chris Aure LHP, North Pole (Alaska) HS. Released in 2010. Never made it out of the GCL.
16(474), Wes Freeman OF, All Saints Academy, Lakeland, FL. Had an OPS of 495 at West Virginia. Hard to imagine he's still a prospect.
17(504), Jaron Shepherd OF, Navarro (TX) JC DNS
18(534), Jarek Cunningham SS, Mount Spokane HS, Spokane, WA. Had an OPS of 745 at West Virginia after missing 2009 with a knee injury. Played second base and is still in the mix.
19(564), Jason Haniger C Georgia Tech DNS
20(594), Quinton Miller RHP, Shawnee HS, Medford, NJ. FIP of 3.66 in 10 starts for WV despite arm miseries. Adam Reynolds observes that, "He's built up a medical record, but he has major league stuff when on the field."
21(624), Brent Klinger RHP, Glendale (AZ) CC. DNP in 2010, but still with Pirates (reinstated from DL at the end of the season).
22(654), Patrick Palmeiro 3B, Heritage HS, Colleyville, TX DNS
23(684), Austin Wright LHP, Conant HS, Hoffman Estates, IL DNS
24(714), Brian Litwin 3B, St. Stephens HS, Hickory, NC DNS
25(744), Brian Leach RHP, Southern Mississippi. A starter for Bradenton with a FIP of 3.72. Still a prospect.
26(774), Zach Wilson 3B, Wilson HS, Long Beach, CA DNS
27(804), Edwin Roman OF, PRBA, Gurabo, P.R. Never made it out of the GCL.
28(834), Kyle Saukko RHP, Sierra (CA) JC Released in 2010.
29(864), Kevin Komstadius 1B, East Valley HS, Yakima, WA DNS
30(894), Daniel Martin RHP, Panola (TX) JC DNS
31(924), Ryan Hinson LHP, Clemson DNS
32(954), T.J. Forrest RHP, Bossier Parish (LA) CC DNS
33(984), Mark Carver 1B, UNC Wilmington No longer in baseball
34(1014), Matt Payne 3B, North Carolina State Released in 2009
35(1,044), Tyler Cox LHP, Illinois State. An effective reliever for Bradenton.
36(1,074), Kyle Morgan OF, San Francisco. Released after 2010 season.
37(1,104), Matt Curry 1B, Howard (TX) JC DNS
38(1,134), Alan Knotts RHP, Louisiana Tech. Apparently out of baseball.
39(1,164), Albert Fagan RHP, Yonkers, N.Y. Released in 2009
40(1,194), Beau Didier 3B, Bellarmine Prep, Tacoma, WA DNS
41(1,224), Chris Simmons C Army. Had to fulfill Army commitment.
42(1,254), Cole White OF, Army. Came back from Army commitment and had OPS of 723 at State College.
43(1,284), Johnny Gunter RHP, Chattahoochee Valley (AL) CC DNS
44(1,314), Mike Williams LHP, Mount Olive, NC, JC. Not impressive in relief at WV.
45(1,343), Allen Ponder RHP, Auburn-Montgomery Put on restricted list in May of 2009, not heard of since.
46(1,371), Scott McGough SS, Plum HS, Pittsburgh DNS
47(1,398), Jordan Craft OF, Kennesaw Mountain HS, GA DNS
48(1,425), Owen Brolsma RHP, Texas Tech Released at the end of 2009
49(1,452), Zach Foster RHP, Pittsburgh-Bradford. The closer for WV, but FIP of 5.04. Probably not a prospect any more.
50(1,479), Craig Parry OF, South Dakota State Released after spring training in 2010
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I'd like to see
Cole White do something. That Army commitment had to be tough.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
Also,
nice post.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I would too
He was such an outstanding college player that it isn’t absurd to think that there is still something there either.
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by Say Hey Johnny Ray on Jan 11, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Calvin, Tyler, and
Here are a series of interviews with Calvin Anderson, Tyler Cox, and Brock Holt. The same interviewer does each one, making it clear that Anderson is huuuge.
Viva Clemente!
Nice post.
What’s the old saying? “One star, one starter, and one bench guy”? I’d say Pedro is the star with Chase and Wilson making up the other two in either order. Miller and Cunningham seem to have the most potential of the remaining guys with Leach, Mercer, Grossman, Hague still having some shot to contribute in Pitt.
I'd say at least that
That is probably about right for a team with normal financial resources, for us we are probably going to need 4 guys out of every draft to make the majors. Hopefully if we sign roughly 30 per year and they are quality over slot guys we can develop 13% of our players.
“What’s the old saying? "One star, one starter, and one bench guy"?”
Have we ever had that in a single draft? The last Pirates drafted stars, per my recollection, were in 1985 and 1992, and it doesn’t look like we got much else in those drafts.
by Adam Reynolds on Jan 11, 2011 11:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Obviously Tanner Scheppers and I do believe we drafted a few who are now top college prospects. The list was up on this site a bit ago. I think Drew Gagnon was one of them. Plus it looks like we re-drafted Matt Curry (at least I think that is the same person).
by Cainyoudigit on Jan 11, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, same Matt Curry
We were clearly big fans.
As for the other dns guys it was a mixed bag, McGough stands to make a good deal more money while Gagnon will probably end up making a little less than our offer.
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by Say Hey Johnny Ray on Jan 12, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
so did we
run out of money or did we jist drop the ball .
by melikie yung tang on Jan 12, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Great Post.
…dont know what else to ’cept Thanks!
Paul.
"I choose to gamble with my life
Twice the risk, four times the prize
Nothing knocks me over"
by lighthouse913 on Jan 12, 2011 2:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Good post roberto
It’s nice reading something imformitive and well thought out.
Nice post, Roberto!
Startling how bad our MI depth would be without this draft.
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