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The 2011-2012 Off-Season Position Players Chart

Do pitchers and catchers report yet?  Here is the initial 2011-2012 off-season chart for the casual fans, if any, at Bucs Dugout.  For the new folks, this is my attempt to show the Pirates’ current starters, the in-house options to replace them, and the in-house options to replace the replacements.  Data (age, options left, etc.) is reasonably accurate and the Service Time is updated as of the end of the 2011 season.  I believe that all the columns are now either self-explanatory or explained.  For now, I’m still noting where players can get Super-2 status, although that may change with the next CBA.

 

Player

Acquired

ST

OL

2012

2013

2014

2015

2016

2017

2018

2019

2020

2021

C

Ryan Doumit                 

dr99

6.120

0

31

32

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tony Sanchez

dr09

0.000

3

AAA

24

25

26

27

28

29

 

 

 

 

Ramon Cabrera

fa08

0.000

3

AA

AAA

24

25

26

27

28

29

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1B

 G. Jones

dr05

2.158

0

30

31

32

33

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Matt Hague

dr08

0.000

3

26

27

28

29

30

31

 

 

 

 

 

Matt Curry

dr10

0.000

3

AA

AAA

25

26

27

28

29

30

31

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2B

Neil Walker            

dr04

1.166

1

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brock Holt

dr09

0.000

3

AAA

24

25

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

Jarek Cunningham

dr08

0.000

3

AA

AAA

24

25

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SS

Ronny Cedeno

tr09

6.029

0

29

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chase D’Arnaud        

dr08

0.110

3

25

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

 

 

Jordy Mercer  

dr08

0.000

3

AAA

26

27

28

29

30

31

32

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3B

Pedro Alvarez

dr08

1.084

0

25

26

27

28

29

 

 

 

 

 

 

Josh Harrison         

tr09

0.125

3

24

25

26

27

28

29

 

 

 

 

 

Dan Gamache

dr11

0.000

3

A

A+

AA

AAA

25

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

 

 

     

     

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LF

Alex Presley

dr06

0.130

3

26

27

28

29

30

31

 

 

 

 

 

Quincy Latimore  

dr07

0.000

3

AAA

24

25

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

Josh Bell

dr11

0.000

3

Rookie

A

AA

AAA

23

24

25

26

27

28

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CF

Andrew McCutchen  

dr05

2.123

3

25

26

27

28

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Starling Marte             

fa07

0.000

3

23

24

25

26

27

28

29

 

 

 

 

Mel Rojas, Jr.   

dr10

0.000

3

AA

AAA

23

24

25

26

27

28

29

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RF

Jose Tabata  

tr08

1.117

1

23

24

25

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

Andrew Lambo

tr00

0.000

3

AAA

24

25

26

27

28

29

 

 

 

 

Robbie Grossman

dr08

0.000

3

AA

AAA

24

25

26

27

28

29

30

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ST = Service Time

 

 

Player starts season in AAA but called up before September; not eligible for arbitration

 

OL = Options Left

 

 

Player not eligible for arbitration

 

## = Age At Start of Season

 

 

Player eligible for arbitration

 

dr## = Year Drafted

 

 

Player under contract

 

tr## = Year Traded For

 

 

Player under a team option

 

fa## = Year Signed as FA

 

 

Player eligible for free agency

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     There are still a lot of holes that need to be filled. And that, in part, is why I now think the Pirates will exercise Doumit’s two options and keep him around as next year’s starting catcher.  Other factors favoring this decision include the relative lack of good free agent options, the lack of good internal options, last year’s lack of offense, and Doumit’s greater value if traded.  (I don’t know what the Pirates can get for Doumit, but I’m sure it’s more than the team can get for JJ, the Fort, or Chris Snyder.) 

      I also think that Sanchez will start next year in AAA.  Pirates Prospects notes that Ramon Cabrera and Carlos Paulino have earned promotions to AA.  The only person blocking Sanchez’s path at Indianapolis is Eric Fryer.  Of the catchers on the 2011 Indians roster, JJ is out of options and 29 years old, Dusty Brown and Wyatt Toregas both elected free agency, and I don’t believe the team is counting on Kris Watts or Miguel Perez as the future of the Pirates catching staff.  As for Pagnozzi pushing anyone aside, check out his profile at Pirates Prospects – it seems their “Had a terrible year at the plate” key got stuck.  Pagnozzi is an organizational filler who’s saving grace is that he has an option left, meaning he can start the year at Indy as a back-up and the 4th or 5th string catcher for the Pirates.

 

            The Tabata signing likely means Garrett Jones’ full-time return to 1B, hopefully as part of a platoon.  The Pirates may finally have a passable 1B prospect in Matt Hague but if you want to see something scary before Halloween, look at the team’s 1B depth as summarized at Pirates Prospects.  And then look at organizational depth at 2B and 3B – if you dare.  We apparently don’t have anyone beyond Josh Harrison to back up Pedro anywhere in our system.

             

            The free agent market for shortstops, like catchers, is fairly uninspiring.  While I’d love to pencil in Jose Reyes for seven years, I think it’s best if we all resign ourselves to one more year of Ronny and hope that the chance to hit free agency in 2013 keeps him motivated AND focused.  This would allow the Pirates to bring D’Arnaud back in 2012 to transition to being the team’s ML shortstop. 

 

            Being an outfielder in the Pirates’ organization has just become more frustrating, as Presley, McCutchen, and Tabata seem to be set in stone for the next four years.  As often noted here, PNC’s left field requires a player with some speed, not the traditional power-hitting corner outfielder.    

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of the managing editor (Charlie) or SB Nation. FanPosts are written by Bucs Dugout readers.

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