Try again on Bartlett?

by johnnycuff on Nov 15, 2011 10:58 AM EST

buried in this Robothal article is the following:

Regardless of what happens with Bell, the PADRES want to trade either shortstop Jason Bartlett or second baseman Orlando Hudson, major league sources say.

Bartlett, 32, is signed for $5.5 million next season with a $5.5 million option or $1.5 million buyout for 2013.

Bartlett was worth almost 2 fWAR last year, so the price certainly isn't unreasonable. He had a lousy year with the bat, going .245/.308/.309 which would seem to be the product of bad plate discipline. His swinging strike and pitch chase rates were both career highs. His defense at SS is average and possibly on the decline, though last year was his best year by UZR/150 standards since 2008.

Personally I'd say no, but given our past interest and since the market for shortstops is so thin I would expect that NH will at least inquire. He doesn't seem to offer much beyond what Ronny Cedeno could have done for a smaller price, but he could make a reasonable stopgap to hopefully one of d'Arnaud/Mercer.

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This would be for Indianapolis, right?

You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.

by WTM on Nov 15, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions

I don't trust his 1.8 WAR

When an apparently declining* player’s UZR improves in a single year like that, it’s probably just random fluctuation. I’d guess his true talent was below his mildly negative UZR.

*And before last year, his UZR was dropping like a rock for several years in a row.

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by WHYG Zane Smith on Nov 15, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions

UZR

It’s been negative three years in a row, and has dropped steadily since early in his career. There could be year-to-year fluctuations in the accuracy of the data, but the overall trend is very clear. Added to his collapse at the plate, Bartlett is now a terrible player. I’d prefer Ciriaco, easily, and I don’t even think Ciriaco should be on the roster.

You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.

by WTM on Nov 15, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions

there is another trade option that is...

Ivan DeJesus. The Dodgers just signed Mark Ellis for 2 years. While they have Gordon and Uribe who both can play MI, IDJ is the one other teams can grab. He looked over-matched this season, but is still young enough to learn, and has more potential to be an average SS than d’Arnaud and Mercer imo. Colletti is still out there, so I think the price is affordable.

by taiwania on Nov 15, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions

i think they keep dejesus until Gordon proves he can stick. dejesus stays put. nobody messes with de-jesus

by white angus on Nov 15, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I remember saying at this past trade deadline...

…the Bucs should trade for David DeJesus & Doug Fister because then the headlines could read:

“Pirates find Jesus, get Fisted”

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Nov 15, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions

"Eight year olds, Dude. Eight year olds."

by yeah, im a jerk on Nov 15, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions

Pay the Man Shirley

That’s the first good laugh I had all day. Thanks for the effort WA

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Nov 17, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t think DeJesus has enough bat to project as a starting ML shortstop. That .820 raw OPS at AAA doesn’t look too bad, but once you account for Albuquerque’s park effects and the generally crazy league baseline for the 2011 PCL, its zMLE is only .246/.314/.322.

by Vlad on Nov 15, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions

Better uses for the $7MM Bartlett would cost:

1) Spending it on Clint Barmes, Ramon Santiago or another player who might actually be useful

2) Lighting it on fire.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Nov 15, 2011 1:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

3. in my hands

by BadAndy on Nov 15, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions

4

4) Giving $86,000 to a randomly selected fan every game in order to improve attendance.

by Aphthakid on Nov 15, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions

5. improving the lifts at Seven Springs

i kid, i jest. theyre fiiiiiiiiiiiine!

by white angus on Nov 15, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions

4) Giving $86,000 to a randomly selected fan every game in order to improve attendance.

can you imagine? they’d fill the stadium every night. really puts MLB salaries in perspective.

by johnnycuff on Nov 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions

I realize this is in jest...

but would it really be a terrible idea to do a $10k giveaway at every game? That’s less than a $1mil for the season, and I am sure attendance would spike. Is that legal?

by goodtymes31 on Nov 15, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions

There must be some loophole to pull it off

say each ticket gets you 1 “raffle ticket” and boom

by Mr. E on Nov 15, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions

Probably not

They’d probably need to jump through a bunch of legal hoops to pull it off. The government would probably view that as “gambling” because you’d be required to buy a game ticket to enter the contest. That’s why most contests have that “no purchase necessary” tag on them and some alternate route to enter.

by Aphthakid on Nov 15, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions