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Bronson Arroyo Gives Gene Lamont His Endorsement

I never anticipated that what happened in the clubhouse of the 2000 Pirates might be in any way relevant to who might manage the Boston Red Sox in 2012, but hey, I guess stranger things have happened. This article turns to Bronson Arroyo - who was a rookie for the Bucs in 2000 (a couple years before they dropped him for no reason) and who pitched for the Sox from 2003 to 2005 - for his take on Gene Lamont, who's now a finalist for the Red Sox job.

"He would have meetings at times about different things. I remember a couple of times we [the 2000 Pirates] had some fights on the bus and he had some meetings, but for the most part he was very similar to Terry Francona. He was going to ride the season out, try to let players do what they do and not ruffle too many feathers."

Here's WTM's piece on the Pirates' managers since Jim Leyland. It seems like managing a team with as much talent as the Red Sox have would smooth over many mediocre managers' problems, and that if Lamont became manager of the Red Sox, the team's management wouldn't allow him to abuse pitchers the way he did with the Pirates. 

Via MLB Trade Rumors.

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Lamont might actually work out OK for the Red Sox. His two major problems with the Pirates were that he hated playing rookies and he shredded arms. But the Red Sox don’t play rookies unless they perform well right from the start and, like you point out, they won’t give Lamont free reign to abuse young pitchers like he abused Schmidt, Benson and Cordova.

Well, Lamont wasn’t much on the leadership front, either, but that’s not an issue with a veteran team like the Red Sox. Or, then again, maybe it is, judging from the fried chicken socials they held during games.

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Nov 27, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

My biggest concern would be

that, according to Arroyo, he doesn’t want to ruffle too many feathers. Based on what I’ve seen about their clubhouse, maybe they need someone a little different than that.

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by glass0941 on Nov 27, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That story

was one of the worst pieces of reporting I’ve ever seen. Not the facts, no one seems to be disputing the facts, but the inference the reporter wanted you to draw from the facts. The near-libelous hatchet job on Francona was the worst part, but nobody would have given a popcorn fart about the rest of that nonsense about the chicken wings and the video games and all that if 1) the Sox had won two more games or B) the Rays had lost two more.

The writer lost any shred of credibility IMO when he called out Adrian Effing Gonzalez for a lack of “leadership,” whatever “leadership” is supposed to mean.

Terrible hit job masquerading as reporting. I hope Lamont or whoever gets the job is ready to have his personal life exposed like that the moment things go wrong. We give writers like Smizik a lot of grief here for being ignorant or foolish at worst, but I don’t think there’s any reporter or columnist at any paper in Pittsburgh as deliberately malicious as that.

(Not counting radio and Madden, wherever he is now.)

by bucdaddy on Nov 28, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like Brian Giles might not have been the best guy to be teammates with, based on that little anecdote.

by Thunder on Nov 27, 2011 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

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