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Not Pirate news, but interesting. A's got Brad Peacock, Tom Milone, A.J. Cole and Derek Norris. That's a really good haul and shows the value of prospects who are ML-ready or close to it.

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They must cook up some good meth in Nats HQ

Mike Rizzo just got taken.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

To clarify

I love Gonzalez’s stuff and durability and he has the potential to really mow down NL batters having averaged 8.54 K/9 in the AL.

That said, Nats just gave up 3 of their top 10 prospects (as ranked by Fangraphs) and I’m not sure Gonzalez is THAT good.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they gave up a lot, but they believe they’re a frontline starter away from contention. Beane did a good job of ratcheting up the market for Gonzalez and the Nats evidently paid the market price. Their rotation is set without Peacock and Milone, they have a strong back of the bullpen, and they already have their long-term catcher in Wilson Ramos. They paid heavily, but they could afford to. The guys they really need at the ML level—primarily Rendon and Harper—they’ve still got.

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by WTM on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

For their sake...

…I hope they’re not fast-tracking Harper too much. (Random thought there)

The front of their rotation if Strasburg stays healthy looks NASTY though. That’s an awful lot of potential whiffs.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 22, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

That is a ton to give up.
Billy Beane will bury us all.

by my dixie wrecked on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Billy done good

I feel awful for A’s fans though. I’m sure most know it had to be done, but to see two guys of the caliber of Cahill & Gonzalez dealt away within a week or so of each other…that has to be a swift kick in the crotch.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

If they ever do get that stadium and an increase in payroll the As could be deadly again, if not, they appear to be in a continual rebuild

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Dec 22, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

true but i couldnt name the last As player to sign a long term contract, buying out solid FA years, I have faith the PIrates will be able to sign a few of these types of deals, hell, they already did with Tabata. Will it be the Cutch and Alvarez’s of the world, maybe not, but I expect some players to stick

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Dec 23, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Eric Chavez?

that one didn’t work out so well

by Mr. E on Dec 23, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Gio still walks too may guys to be considered an elite pitcher in my mind. Certainly makes their team better this year, though.

by maguro on Dec 22, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not anywhere near that good...

4.32 career ERA on the road and xFIPs just under 4.00. Nationals paid a package worthy of an ace, and this guy ain’t no ace.

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by nycbucsfan on Dec 22, 2011 7:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly this

People who point out the Nats could afford to give up these prospects are right, but Gonzalez is not the pitcher I would’ve given them up for.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 23, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Nats are trying to win now

they have foundation pieces already in place; an ace on the mound and a solid 2 and 3, a top flight 3b, harper in RF. werth and a fat wallet out there too. plus the owner is like seriously loaded…

peacock, cole and norris all could bomb as well as succeed. you cant just rely on all of your prospects to blossom into great players.

great trade for both clubs, IMO

by white angus on Dec 22, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd advise all Pirates fans...

to take strong heed of your second paragraph.

by Thunder on Dec 22, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

as well as the Pirates management team

by Thunder on Dec 22, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, that's pretty much what the Pirates have to do

For the foreseeable future, if the prospects bust, it’s more losing for the Buccos. It’s build internally or fail. Free agency can net them useful role players like Barmes or bounceback guys like Bedard….it can’t get them franchise cornerstones.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 23, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

This +76

For teams like the Pirates, building a team through prospects is literally all you can do. When FA’s won’t come here because you don’t have the cash or your a crappy team all you can do is build through the draft, sorry if that can’t get through certain people on this site.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Dec 23, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe. I don’t care for Norris and I see Cole as the only one of the 3 pitchers to have star potential. And, though I think Cole has a bigger upside than Gio, a lot can go wrong between his current level and the majors.

by bolton on Dec 22, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

When I first saw that Gio got traded to the Nats, my guess on the return was Peacock, Norris, and a couple scrubs or lottery tickets, which would have been an even trade in my opinion. But since the “scrubs” turned out to be Cole and Milone, it’s a huge win for Oakland.

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by wg1of5 on Dec 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The Nats gave up a lot but it’s true they didn’t really need those guys. The trouble is most of the rest of their top 10 are injury concerns (Purke, Rendon, Solis) or higher than normal bust potential (Meyer, Hood, Lombardozzi). That system could be a ghost town in a year.

Stras/Gio/Zimm is pretty nice though.

by Mr. E on Dec 22, 2011 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

i wouldnt be surprised if Peacock comes back down to earth

his “wicked” knuckle curve may not fool the average MLBer like it did the minor leaguers in 2011. he was a 41st round pick who actually stuck and was pretty much fodder until this past season.

gio, despite the walks, keeps runners off base.

good trade for both though. milone could end up being the better pitcher

by white angus on Dec 22, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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