Pirates Interested in McLouth?

Er . . . pardon me, that would be Allstarandgoldglovernate McLouth.

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McLouth might be better than Jones to have as a fourth outfielder. Not considerably so, but he could probably field a corner better than Jones does.

That said, I’m not really enthusiastic about the idea. He’s still Nate McLouth.

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by Suffering Buc on Dec 5, 2011 6:49 AM EST reply actions

As a 5th OFer for the league minimum maybe.

No way he should start, I would rather have Gorkys and Jones as the reserves but it wouldnt be terrible if Gorkys was in AAA for a bit longer.

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by Kosstic518 on Dec 5, 2011 6:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions

5th OF?

Like WTM says, he’s All-Star Gold Glover Nate McLouth!!!!! I’m surprised the Yankees don’t want him as a starter!!!

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by IAPiratesFan on Dec 5, 2011 7:00 AM EST up reply actions

i dont see a problem with mclouth being the top reserve outfielder

i applauded his trade the day it happened, even though it was a shock. i always thought he was a decent player; couldnt hurt to have him back in the XP role.

by white angus on Dec 5, 2011 7:25 AM EST reply actions

I applauded it as well

and thinking back, I’m not sure the last time the Pirates traded a “star”…and had talent in AAA ready to step in and replace him.

It was an uncomfortable feeling….because it was such a foreign feeling.

by insane_sanity on Dec 5, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions

The only thing that would make the

by bosten7 on Dec 5, 2011 7:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions

Every new tidbit that comes out of the winter meetings...

…only makes me more discouraged from the optimism I had a couple weeks ago

Pirates likely to be quiet. Okay, I can live with that, but then…

…Pirates inquiring about Ian Stewart. Hate to give up assets for him, but I suppose but then….

…Pirates want Nate Mclouth. May have to start drinking before noon.

Why pay Mclouth anything? Presley-Cutch-Tabata-Hernandez is a perfectly respectable outfield quartet.

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by Raybin on Dec 5, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions

"May have to start drinking before noon."

I advocate that even if you’re not all freaked out.

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But seriously – it’s all talk and speculation. Don’t worry.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Dec 5, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions

I know, 99% of everything is bullshit

But still….not what I wanted to read on a Monday morning when my defenses are down.

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by Raybin on Dec 5, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions

I’m just curious to see whether the endless screaming about the McLouth trade would continue if the Pirates ended up with Morton/Gorkys/Locke AND McLouth.

My guess is the same people who’ve been screaming about the trade for two and a half years would rip NH for re-acquiring Nate.

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by WTM on Dec 5, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Its still not good enough

by BigB2323 on Dec 5, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions

Honestly, after reading this...

…I may be okay with the re-acquiring of Mclouth just on the grounds of “haha, up yours, Atlanta”

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 5, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions

Of all the various tantrums people throw about NH's moves...

…the least explicable are ones who whine about Mclouth.

NH sold high and got the Bucs Morton (as things stand now, their best starter when healthy), Locke (their #10 prospect as ranked by BA) and Hernandez (who looks to be developing into a nice 4th OF) AND, let’s not forget, Mclouth was traded because McCutchen was ready.

I would legitimately rank that as one of the two truly brilliant deals NH has pulled off his Pirate tenure (the other of course being the outright theft of Tabata along with Karstens and DCutch)

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah but...

Ummm…gimme a second…ummm…

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by KentuckyPirate on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions

FWIW

I understood it as a baseball move (and let’s be honest, it looks a lot better in retrospect than it did at the time – I don’t think McLouth’s collapse was foreseen; regression maybe, but not collapse), but I was very frustrated by it as a white flag on ’09, ’10…. I was a Morton skeptic (still am to an extent), so to me it looked like a move to solidify the future, not the present.

by JRoth95 on Dec 5, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions

Very strict rules at Stately Bucdaddy Manor

Coffee before noon
Booze after*

*—Exception: Post-lawn mowing on a hot morning

by bucdaddy on Dec 5, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions

Remind me never to visit

Stately Bucdaddy Manor, then…

(remind me to tell you the 10:30 am Bloody Mary story at The Gathering III)

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by cocktailsfor2 on Dec 5, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions

I love Bloody Maries

Marys? Anyway, the trouble is that I start very slowly wrt eating & drinking; probably 25% of mornings I don’t have anything but water, maybe a piece of toast, before noon. So the Bloodies just don’t fit in my overall schedule, alcohol aside.

by JRoth95 on Dec 5, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions

Excuses, excuses, excuses...

I don’t need your excuses, man.

And I don’t need to justify my alcoholism to you, either.

I can quit any time I want to, my friend.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Dec 5, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions

ummm... what I meant to say was

I support your reasoning, JRoth – you know yourself better than anyone else.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Dec 5, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions

McClouth?

Sorry, I couldn’t help myself…..

by Brakeman8 on Dec 5, 2011 9:07 AM EST reply actions

I'd sign McClouth to play with McCutcheon

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by Raybin on Dec 5, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs

Rec'd

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 5, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions

could be a good mentor for Neal Walker

by white angus on Dec 5, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions

all good signings by Neil Huntingdon

by johnnycuff on Dec 5, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions

I'm

pretty sure everyone realizes this, but this would be basically a non-story if it wasn’t a name fairly infamous in recent Pirates history.

Honestly, I’m okay with this, mainly because it is a non-starter. As Raybin pointed out, Gorkys Hernadez is probably ready to be a 4th outfielder at this point, and even if McLouth projects to be better with the bat (pinch hitter?) he won’t be a difference maker. Still, the reason I’m okay with it is it won’t cost much and “blocking” Hernandez is a minor inconvenience not a major problem. I won’t lose sleep over either. Plus, I doubt it happens anyway.

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 5, 2011 10:21 AM EST reply actions

maybe

having McLouth as a reserve, we can trade Gorkys to a team in dire need of some CF help? Im sure there are better options out there, but just a thought.

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by C Shint on Dec 5, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions

I keep trying to figure out

whether Gorkys has any trade value. He doesn’t have much of a ceiling anymore, but he’s probably a better CF than a half dozen teams have. But I just don’t get the sense that anyone cares.

by JRoth95 on Dec 5, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions

hes the gary pettis of the new generation

his glove will probably keep him in baseball for a dozen years. his bat will keep him on the bench for half that.

by white angus on Dec 5, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions

white angus

His glove might keep him in the majors for a total of 12 months spread out over a few years.

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by patthatt on Dec 5, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions

Sounds to me like putting out feelers/insurance in case Lee declines and Jones will be needed at 1B.

It could also mean Gorkys’ reasonable line was built on bloops and bleeders and they don’t think he could be respectable even in a 5th OF role just yet.

by Mr. E on Dec 5, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions

Ain't gonna' happen

McLouth is like Snooky – the Pirates might want to tak pretty to him, but they ain’t gonna give him the ring – he was far too nasty when spurned the last time….remember the rip on the Pirates medical staff and management?

What does that mean?!

by Trogluddite on Dec 5, 2011 12:54 PM EST reply actions