Projecting Jose Tabata
The Pirates are off to a 5-5 start to the season, having taken two series on the road before losing three out of four to a very good Rockies team at home. A lot of players are off to strong starts and the team ERA, to the surprise of many, is near the top in the league. While there is reason to believe that the 2011 Pirates are not the same old Pirates, there have been a lot of posts recently reflecting the "guarded optimism" a lot of fans have. There are a lot of good reasons for the guarded optimism, such as pitcher’s peripherals, high batter strikeout totals and Pedro’s slow start on offense. I thought I would take a different approach and focus on one of the early season success stories … Jose Tabata.
Tabata is off to a scorching start at the plate. He seems to have embraced his role as the leadoff hitter, displaying an even more advanced approach at the plate than he had last season. This approach has led to a ridiculously high .457 OBP and eleven runs scored in only ten games. You can’t ask much more than that out of your leadoff hitter. While there is no way Tabata will continue this torrid play all season, I thought I would analyze just what has led to his success this far and try to project just what we can expect out of Jose in 2011.
Below is a look at Jose’s dashboard on Fangraphs:
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G |
PA |
HR |
RBI |
SB |
BB% |
K% |
ISO |
BABIP |
AVG |
OPS |
wOBA |
wRC+ |
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2010 |
102 |
441 |
4 |
35 |
19 |
6.30 |
14.10 |
.101 |
.339 |
.299 |
.746 |
.334 |
106 |
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2011 |
10 |
47 |
2 |
3 |
5 |
14.90 |
10.50 |
.211 |
.344 |
.342 |
1.010 |
.457 |
187 |
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Fans (37) |
145 |
647 |
8 |
73 |
29 |
7.40 |
14.50 |
.107 |
.331 |
.294 |
.751 |
.336 |
105 |
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ZIPS |
151 |
671 |
8 |
59 |
33 |
7.00 |
13.90 |
.109 |
.322 |
.289 |
.741 |
.329 |
101 |
Not too shabby. Tabata's wOBA and wRC+ are near the top of the league. He won’t keep this pace up all year, but what can we expect? Since reaching the majors, Tabata has displayed an above average hit tool, plus speed, and above-average plate discipline for a player his age. As a top prospect he was expected to carry these skills to the majors. The question surrounding Jose’s ceiling has been, and continues to be, how much power he will develop. In an effort to display this tool in 2011 Tabata bulked up in the offseason adding a reported 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. So far the results have been promising as he has more than doubled his ISO (isolated power) from last season and his slugging percentage currently sits at .553. Is this evidence that Jose is finally maturing as a power hitter? I will answer the power question later in the post.
Before I begin my analysis of Tabata's performance let’s take a look at what a couple of projection systems had to say before the season started. Looking at the table above, both projection systems are pretty close and predict Jose will basically be the same player he was last season: good average, decent OBP and little power. While these systems do not factor in the added muscle this offseason, they could be a reminder that we should temper our enthusiasm a bit.
However, I’m not buying into that right now and the reason has little to do with his added muscle. In my opinion, Tabata being moved to the leadoff position early in the spring is the biggest reason for his hot start. It forced him to take his plate discipline to a new level. Determined to take more pitches and draw some walks as the leadoff man Jose has sharpened his batting eye and just isn’t swinging at many pitches that aren’t strikes. According to Fangraphs, he is only swinging at 12.5 percent of pitches outside of the strike zone (down from 31.9 percent in 2010) while maintaining an 81 percent contact percentage. It is this selectiveness coupled with an early display of solid contact that has led to the increase in his walk rate. I don’t believe that he can continue walking at a 15 percent clip all season, but I think he is displaying enough power and patience to maintain a walk rate around 10 percent. This is something I would not have predicted coming into the season. He has the speed and contact skills to maintain a higher-than-average BABIP, and adding that to his current approach at the plate I am starting to believe that his on-base skills are for real. I would not be surprised to see him end the season with an OBP in the .370-.380 range unless he drastically alters his approach as the season progresses.
So now, the big question: Is Jose on the verge of a breakout in the home run department? In short, I don't think so. I think he will beat the Fans and ZIPS projections of 8 homers, but I don’t think we’ll see him break out to the tune of 20 homers or more. The reason for this is that he simply does not hit enough balls in the air.
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GB/FB |
LD% |
GB% |
FB% |
HR/FB |
IFH% |
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2010 |
2.42 |
16.10 |
59.40 |
24.60 |
4.80% |
13.30 |
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2011 |
3.14 |
14.70 |
64.70 |
20.60 |
28.60% |
13.60 |
Looking at the chart above (once again from Fangraphs), it appears to me that Tabata is getting pretty much the same results as last season once he puts the ball in play. He just isn’t putting enough balls in the air to sustain a high HR total. His HR/FB percentage was really low last season, and on a positive note I think he will fare better there this year - his HR/FB won't be at 28.60 percent but it should be much higher than last season. I think there may be an additional uptick to that ratio as well given his increased strength, though Jose has always had good power. But I just don’t see any way he can reach twenty homers this year without being incredibly lucky, when nearly 65 percent of his balls in play are on the ground and only 20-25 percent are in the air. That said, if I adjust his 2011 HR/FB to 12 percent to account for regression and increased power, I think it’s very possible that Tabata could hit 14 or 15 homers this season.
So what does this all mean? It means, in Tabata, I think the Pirates have a player who will hit for a .300 batting average, maintain a .370 OBP, slug at a .440 clip, steal 30-40 bases and hit 14 homers while playing plus defense (he had a +3.9 UZR/150 in 102 games in 2010). Based on those stats I’m going to go ahead and predict that Tabata will accumulate over 4.0 WAR this season. I know it’s early in the season and the sample size is small, but this was more of an exercise in fun than anything. Besides, I think my prediction would lose its luster if I waited until after the All-Star Break to make it.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of the managing editor (Charlie) or SB Nation. FanPosts are written by Bucs Dugout readers.
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That muscle he was said to have put on seems to be helping
He could very easily have 3 HR’s, the game winning double he had was only a couple feet short.
Good stuff, Slick1....
These are the type of insightful articles that make this site solid to visit. Well done….
With that being said, again, 10 games is hardly enough of a sample to make definitive conclusions. I think what makes this article different from others is that it confirms some things that Jose did last year, while also showing reasons (rather than statistical noise from small samples) at why some things should be adjusted accordingly. The latter relates to the move by Hurdle to move him to the leadoff spot – it demands a different mentality, a mentality that should really help Jose OBP by making him be more selective. That was what was needed from him – not simply relying on his average to get on base. Once BBs are increased in his profile, he becomes extremely dangerous…and much more valuable. Great analysis….
Regarding power, I’ve always been in the camp that the power would come – always for one reason: he simply hits the ball too hard to the opposite field for me to believe that once he starts squaring it up more often (increased, as you stated, by being more selective in his swings) that it still won’t bring the HR numbers up. I don’t believe that. I think this year, as you said, he will be in the 12-18 range. And, due to him being only 22 years old, I’d imagine that by 25-26 years of age, that range moves up to 17-22 or something.
A guy that steals mid-30’s bags, walks in double figure percentages, hits in the low teens of HRs, sports an average of .300-.320, and plays above-average defense……is not only very valuable to the Bucs, but it places in him in some pretty elite company throughout the league.
Well done, Slick1. Thanks for sharing this…..
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Apr 11, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks Cab...
You make a good point about his opposite field power. It’s a sign of good things to come down the road imo. Plus I feel a little better knowing Hurdle we be there to guide him. Jose came into the season determine to hit more HR’s but Hurdle reportedly kept him focussing on just hitting the ball hard and having good at bats and I think that’s what we are seeing. If Jose stays within himslef and doesn’t try to do to much I think he’s going to have an excellent season. As he gains more experience he’ll start to learn which pitches he can drive and he will begin to look for them as opposed to just looking to make solid contact. When that happens I think the power surge will follow.
Tabata is the BOMB, yo.
I make a little mention of this over at RumBunter.
(Forgive a little personal pimpin’, y’all.)
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
Thanks, slick,
although I didn’t do the photoshop – Tim did.
Hope you enjoyed the rest of it, though.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 12, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
ditto.
"I choose to gamble with my life
Twice the risk, four times the prize
Nothing knocks me over"
by lighthouse913 on Apr 11, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagined before the season that Tabata would make moderate gains. With the way he’s locked in now, though, the big performance jump seems a lot more likely. That would be the kind of luck the Pirates franchise needs.
I’d go .310/.380/.465 or so this season.
Now, who looks the dumbest in this situation is Anup Sinha. He made a big deal about Tabata put a lot of weight on his hips this offseason. I’ll have to follow up with him while Tabata’s hitting .350 with a half dozen stolen bases this early.
by Adam Reynolds on Apr 11, 2011 9:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Have to admit...
I was real hesitiant to buy into the hype, and said so in your earlier Tabata post, but I have done a 180 since watching his at bats this year. For me it’s not the results but the consistent approach. He can really pick up breaking balls and just doesn’t chase them. That’s the main thing that separates him from a Lastings Milledge whose balls in play track record looks very similar to Tabata’s. Tabata is hitting pitches that are good pitches to hit. Your projection does seem attainable and man that would be great for the organization. And yeah I’m not a big Anup fan but I’ve already been to vocal about that in the past so I’m going to leave that alone.
yes, the consistant approach you mention is what i am seeing as well.
tabata looks like a real ballplayer out there, almost old-skool, if you will.
if he keeps up the power
i could see a greater difference between BA and OBP.
by BurgherKing on Apr 11, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Only problem with that is that he is hitting leadoff...
I don’t think too many people will pitch around him with Walker and Cutch following him. Add to that his ability to steal bases and I think pitchers will try to make him hit his way on more often than not.
leadoff is a bit of a problem
but i was thinking more of his advanced eye. Pitchers will no longer pump fastballs into safe zones. They will still try to hit corners, and he will be good enough to lay off them if they are outside…
(i also have some doubts about Walker, still, but hopefully he keeps proving me wrong!)
by BurgherKing on Apr 11, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point about pitchers trying to paint corners...
it’s possible. I don’t see it happening unless, like you said, he starts hitting a bunch of HR’s this season. It’s possible but I don’t expect it to happen this year. Hopefully I’m wrong.
I remember
when Tabata was just a wee-tot playing minor league ball and I was calling for management to call him up ASAP.
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!
Wasn't Tabata a wee tot in like 1976?
I kid, of course. No reason to believe he’s not 22.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
Great write-up, Rec'd
I’m always a little hesitant to buy into hot starts and things. But watching him bat, I’m completely convinced that he’s advanced/evolved as a hitter this year. He’s crushing the ball even on routine outs, he’s letting all the bad pitches go by. He hasn’t flailed like an idiot at every breaking ball in the dirt like half of the rest of the lineup so far.
Real world projection, I’m seeing Tabata as having a career path pretty similar to Shane Victorino. Probably with a little better average and a better OBP, but a very similar player. 15/30+ talent, plus defense. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tops Victorino’s numbers in all categories by the time he’s done, since he’s as good at 22 as Victorino at 25+.
Also
Victorino has an All-Star appearance and 3 Gold Gloves. Great haul for Nady/Marte alone, even without 3 somewhat useful pitchers.
its arguable that victorino wouldnt have made the allstar team or had that many GGs if he didnt play for the phillies
True
Baseball is definitely a market-driven sport. No love for the little guy.
I think the Bucs will see some love when they start winning.
IIRC Bonds, VanSlyke and Jay Bell (not positive but I thought he won one) won gold gloves that coincided with division titles.
J Bell
yep..gotta gold glove and broke Ozzie Smith’s 13 in a row at the same time if memory serves..(great writeup! Thanks)
"It's like we used to say in practice: first one to cry is a sissy."-Jack Tatum
by The Villain 32 on Apr 13, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Victorino...
that’s a pretty good comp. I think Tabata’s ceiling is a bit higher because I think he has more power and will eventually hit more HR’s down the road but if he ends up just putting up Victorino type numbers that’s still a very good player. Right now that looks spot on.
Power
I definitely see the potential for more power from Tabata. I don’t know that I’d ever expect him to hit 20+ though, and I’d probably say the same for Victorino. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Tabata can round up a few more doubles/triples and keep his slugging higher, especially with the higher average.
I see him as more of a Carlos Beltran...
when he was healthy, which would make him much better than Victorino IMO.
thats mightly big shoes to feel there, Kev
someone on here compared him to Tim Raines Sr… i think this may be more reachable but with less SB’s. if his power comes out, IMO, he reminds me a little bit of Kirby puckett
A Puckett comp...
crossed my mind when writing this. He was a great hitter whose HR totals fluctuated a bit from season to season. I think this is probably a good comp.
Assuming..
of course, that he does develope more power and his age is what he claims it is, I don’t think a Beltran comp is that far out into lala land. He has the speed, he has the defensive ability, he has the ability to get on base at a high percentage, he has the right attitude and work ethic, there is only one thing left. It comes down to are we seeing a blip on the radar or are we wtinessing the developement of a superstar? Obviously the former is much more likely than the later, but the Pirates are overdue to get lucky with a prospect. Time will tell.
Great analysis.
It pretty much jives with what I am seeing as well. I think your projections are pretty solid.
Only thing that T-Bat does that frustrates me.......
Still, rolls too many pitches over to SS.
I’m not sure why, but it happens with alarming frequency. Sometimes they become infield hits, I concede, but often, when he gets out, it is going to the SS.
Nitpicking….but it frustrates me, kind of like Andrew popping up a little too bit for my taste, as well as El Toro rolling them over to 2B a little too much for my taste.
Anyways….I’m done venting.
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Apr 11, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
It is a good thing when his weakness (rolling balls to SS) is also a strength (beating out infield hits to SS).
by MarkInDallas on Apr 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I though about keeping track of the # of hits he gets this way...
because it just seemed like so many last year. Add to the fact that he is leadoff and you’d think that would boost his IFH% a little more. He gets lots of cheapies…I’ll take it.
While I cannot address Andrew popping the ball up too often (I picture “Willie Mays” Hayes doing push-ups), I can speak towards rolling outside pitches to SS or 2B — they get “fooled”.
A lot of this can be attributed to the inexperience of the hitters — perhaps they are guessing FB outside, and get a change. Maybe they are looking for a FB in and get a slider that starts there, only to disappear away…they sort of wave at it and hit a weak grounder to SS or 2B. You may also have hitters that get started a little early to “cheat”…and pull outside pitches because of that. A lot of the time this is due to the hitter being set-up well by pitch calling, but some of it can also be solely on the pitcher. (Or you can just think “BABIP — must be ‘unlucky’”.)
Mark: while its a weakness turning into a strength for Tabata…it is a straight weakness for Alvarez, especially with teams shifting to that side on him. Alvarez just seems to be making NO effort to sit back and drive anything the opposite way — with his strength, he should have great oppo power.
by insane_sanity on Apr 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
In my experience..
the rollers are usually caused by trying to pull pitches that shouldn’t be pulled.
Best player on the team
Like everyone I’m psyched about Tabata. Great post and rec’d. I think it’s highly likely that he’ll be regarded as the best player on the team by the end of the year. He might be now. Interestingly my brother in law in Chicago who is a Cubs fan saw opening day and the Sunday game and said “I hate Tabata”. It’s great to have players that fans hate because they are so good not because they have other issues.
Yinzers uber alles
Heh, I too am glad your brother in law hates him...
I feel the same way about most Cubs. Tabata is definitely progressing better than I expected though I’m still going to give McCutchen the best player on the team tag…now and at the end of the season. It’s nice to have a couple of players in the discussion though. Wait til Pedro heats up. I’m real excited about the Core Four right now.
Isn't it though?
I don’t know what’s more aggravating, that fact that I’m surrounded by Reds fans here at Ohio State or the fact that none of them take the Pirates seriously (who can blame them, but still). I yearn for the days when Cincinnati people will hate us like they do the Steelers, it’s healthier that way.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
And then there's those poor Cleveland Fans...
Oh well… at least they had LeBron James once…
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
RIP Corey Keller, James Taylor, M. Jay Darby, Derek Davis.
by gorillakilla34 on Apr 13, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions
...and Lou Groza.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 13, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
...and Albet Belle's Hall of Corked Bats.
Or was it Joey Belle?
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
RIP Corey Keller, James Taylor, M. Jay Darby, Derek Davis.
by gorillakilla34 on Apr 13, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Power/muscle
Listening to Neal Huntington yesterday afternoon it sounded like Tabata might have spent his offseason bulking up and trying to turn into a HR hitter to the point where the Pirates were actually worried about it. At one point they had a talk with him where they had to stress that his approach was more important and the power will come when it comes. He said that telling him it took Clemente 6 seasons to hit double digit HRs really seemed to ease Tabata’s mind. The way he’s come out this season you’d think he spent the entire offseason perfecting his approach.
"He said that telling him it took Clemente 6 seasons to hit double digit HRs really seemed to ease Tabata’s mind."
Especially apt for a guy with Clemente’s face tattooed over his heart.
ALSO: This video of Tabata, posted on Sunday – he says he’s got more focus this season.
This kid is awesome.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 12, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Derp....
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 12, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point...
I made reference to the “Clemente” comment in a reply to Cabrerra above. Hurdle basically reeled him in and told him not to try and do too much. Looks like Tabata has bought in. I feel a lot better about his offensive development under Hurdle given his track record. No way of knowing this but I feeling the players relate to Hurdle better than Russell…just a feeling.
AND tabata really looks like he enjoys playing the game. cant say that for everyone out there.
for many, it turns into a daily grind and they are just hoping to get a phat contract when due.
What is very interesting to me
Now that I look at it, is the 7 BB.
In my mind, I’m picturing Tabata going up there and swining early and often — I’m pleasantly surprised to see his 7BB to only 4Ks.
Could someone tell me how many pitches-per-AB he has this year vs. last year? The 7 BB tell me he is going deep into some ABs, while I’m pretty sure he’s hitting first-pitch FB for base knocks as well. In my mind I was not seeing him as your prototypical leadoff guy as he wasn’t taking enough pitches…I may be wrong, but can’t find the pitches-per-AB number anywhere.
calc’d my own @ fangraphs:
2010 – 3.61 p/PA
2011 – 3.70p/PA
The number has increased slightly (and 2011 isn’t much of a sample size) Not too bad…could be higher in the lead-off spot though.
by insane_sanity on Apr 12, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
His walk rate is nearly 15% right now...
I can’t really complain too much about taking more pitches. I think the biggest thing he is doing right is controlling the strike zone. He just isn’t chasing bad pitches. That’s a pretty good strategy to follow. I have no problem with him swinging at hittable pitches, even early in the count.
Small sample, but...
He’s one of two Pirates hitters who is actually below the league average right now. Seems weird with that many walks. A lot of his hits/outs must be coming early in counts. It’s certainly not a bad thing if he keeps walking anywhere near that often.
It seems to suggest a player who is attacking hittable pitches and laying off the junk.
Which, of course, is exactly what you want him to be doing.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you

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