Shaun Marcum Fools Pirates As Bucs Lose 6-0
Well, this wasn't much of a game for much of anyone, was it? I had the Penguins going on one screen and the Pirates on another, and I'm glad one of the local teams did well. The Pirates couldn't do much of anything with Shaun Marcum , who fooled the Pirates mostly with fastballs and changeups. The Bucs managed only four singles against him.
Both he and Kevin Correia had no-hitters going through four, and Correia maintained his through five. Correia allowed only two baserunners during that span, both due to walks, and even one of those was thrown out when Yuniesky Betancourt appeared to miss a hit-and-run sign - thanks to Betancourt, Casey McGehee made about the slowest steal attempt I've ever seen. It looked like Ryan Doumit even double-clutched when he threw.
But after that, things went badly for Correia. The first two runners reached base in the sixth, the first on a double, the second on a bunt that Pedro Alvarez didn't field. Carlos Gomez knocked the first of those in with a sacrifice fly. Then Ryan Braun singled, and then Prince Fielder hit a three-run homer on a hanging breaking ball to make it 4-0. Then in the seventh, Mark Kotsay reached on an error by Alvarez, and Betancourt doubled to bring home another run. (Nyjer Morgan was the one who scored the run, as a pinch-runner.)
This was a pretty ugly game for Alvarez, and ... good game for the Pens, eh?
The night was pretty ugly for the Pirates' minor-league affiliates as well. Sean Gallagher got hit pretty hard for Indianapolis against Louisville. Jeff Locke took the loss for Altoona , but struck out six in 4.2 innings. Bradenton lost 9-2 , but that isn't a huge concern, given that most of the damage was done against non-starter Matt McSwain, and Robbie Grossman , Ramon Cabrera and Adalberto Santos all got three hits apiece. And Brandon Cumpton got whacked in West Virginia's 13-2 loss to Asheville; Gift Ngoepe hit a homer.
Update (by Vlad):
I was one of the few people at the game last night, so I figure I might as well give my two cents on things. PNC Park was an absolute ghost town, unsurprising under the circumstances. The paid attendance was 8,755, but I'd be surprised if there were more than 5,000 people in the park. At one point, the team did one of those "lucky row" prize promotions in section 28 (field level near the LF corner), and when I looked, there were only two people in the whole section, neither in the row in question.
Nearly all of the TVs in the suites were showing the Penguins game, and there were several incongruous cheers when interesting things happened in the game happening across town.
This was my first chance to see Correia pitch since his signing, and I'm still not sure exactly what I think of him. He worked quickly and mostly threw strikes, both of which are good things from the spectator's point of view. His stuff didn't seem exceptional. He didn't get many clean swings-and-misses, and was mostly just pitching to contact. The results were pretty good until the sixth inning, at which point the wheels came off. Through the first five, Correia hadn't allowed much solid contact, but after that point just about everything Milwaukee got the bat on was hit pretty squarely. It was strange to see him falter like that, because he was only around 70 pitches at that point in the game, due to his earlier efficiency.
Charlie misspoke slightly when he described the bunt at the heart of the meltdown. Pedro was covering third on the play, and Correia seemed to consider trying to nail the lead runner, and then become tangled up in his attempt to field the ball until it was too late to make a play at first, either.
There were a few other notable fielding plays in the game, which might be worthy of further discussion. With one out in the sixth and men on first (Marcum) and third (Lucroy), Carlos Gomez hit a flyball to right field, which tailed foul but was still fairly easily playable. In that situation, what's the right play for the right fielder? Lucroy is a decent runner for a catcher, but not exactly a thoroughbred. Do you make the catch, take the second out, and then take your chances on a play at the plate? Or do you let the ball drop in the hope that Correia, who has only surrendered one real hit in five-plus innings, can retire the weak-hitting Gomez in a way that keeps Lucroy nailed to third base? Diaz did the former, and I can't say that he was wrong for doing so, as he left himself in good position to make the throw and it all ended up being a moot point anyway after Braun's single and Fielder's homer.
There were also a few moments of interest in the Brewers ' half of the seventh. Pedro made an error on a grounder by Kotsay, giving him three for the year. In fairness to Pedro, the play wasn't a gimme, as he had to move to get in front of the ball and got hit in the chest by an in-between hop that kind of snuck up on him. The interesting part of the play, though, was that the ball ricocheted off of Pedro's chest directly to Cedeno, who caught it cleanly in the air and was only about a step and a half late on the throw to first. It was a nice effort, and would've really been a beautiful play if it had come together.
There was a similar almost-but-not-quite moment on the next batter. Yuniesky Betancourt drilled a double to left-center, and with Morgan (who had pinch run for Kotsay) digging for home, Tabata played the bounce perfectly, barehanded the ball, and fired a strike right to the cutoff man (Cedeno again, I think, though I may be mistaken). The cutoff man, whoever he was, got rid of the ball in a hurry and laid it on target, and there was a play at the plate in a situation that had no business being as close as it was. Unfortunately for us, the throw wasn't quite in time, Doumit got trucked by Morgan, and the ball came out. Still, even though the result wasn't there, it was nice to see that kind of effort and execution, particularly in a game where we were already down four runs late.
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Ngoepe hit a HR! Alright!
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
RIP Corey Keller, James Taylor, M. Jay Darby, Derek Davis.
by gorillakilla34 on Apr 13, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i was under the impression that his hitting
would make Argenis Diaz look like a HR derby champ… not sure why though…
by BurgherKing on Apr 14, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe because he's like 4'11"
Actually, the guy’s shown the ability to hit for average, and he has the speed to turn marginal gappers into 2Bs. If he has just a little drive in his bat, it could play at the upper levels.
Can’t express how hard I’m rooting for the guy.
"Can’t express how hard I’m rooting for the guy."
Me, too. Whatta great story, and, by all appearances and reports, a good person all around.
For anyone not familiar with the plucky South African, here are some articles:
HERE is one of the first things in the P-G about him, in 2008…
A short piece, from the Chicago Tribune early 2009.
THIS is the SI article that profiles him extensively in 2009
From DK, a piece on the “International Feel” (TR reference, anyone?) on the Bradenton 2009 squad.
And, of course, he has a fan page on Facebook.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 14, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i think he'll get a month and a half in WV at any rate
to see if he can keep it up.
by BurgherKing on Apr 14, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
with baker and anderson already there, something would have to be done first...
the way anderson has disappointed, i can see him being demoted
by white angus on Apr 14, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
ideally
both Curry and Baker will keep it up, so both can go up a level.
by BurgherKing on Apr 14, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
who'se on first in altoona? im drawing a blank here
is it durham?
by white angus on Apr 14, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i think baker and anderson are at Bradenton...
by white angus on Apr 14, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, my bad, misread your post and got mixed up
Baker is at 1B in Bradenton with Anderson in the OF.
Durham is full time in Altoona.
Sorry about that :)
"Who's on frst?"
Yes.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 14, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Durham primarily
I am not sure if Fryer has gotten any starts there, but yeah, Durham. So there’s definitely an opening there.
by BurgherKing on Apr 14, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good return by Meek?...
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
RIP Corey Keller, James Taylor, M. Jay Darby, Derek Davis.
by gorillakilla34 on Apr 13, 2011 11:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nobody Died!
There is no love in the World. There's only pain.
by IAPiratesFan on Apr 13, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And I’m pretty sure no one was beat down in the left field bleachers … not completely sure though…
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
RIP Corey Keller, James Taylor, M. Jay Darby, Derek Davis.
by gorillakilla34 on Apr 13, 2011 11:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm so tired of losing to the freakin' Brewers!
Why do we seem to play our absolute worst baseball against these clowns?!?
I especially can’t stand Braun or Fielder. They’re two of the biggest tools in the game. The Brewers aren’t that good, but for some reason, we can’t do ANYTHING against them…EVER.
I may just quit watching for 3 days every time we start a series with the Brewers. Just awful.
And what is going on w/ Cutch?
And ya know....
It looks like Prince Fielder has stuck to a strict diet of doughnuts and candy this off season.
There is no love in the World. There's only pain.
by IAPiratesFan on Apr 14, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Fielder's diet is the key?
Maybe someone should order the Pirates some Krispy Kremes so they could get the same results. He’s gotten off to a red hot start.
I didn’t think that guy could get any bigger. Wow.
Proud fan of Pittsburgh's professional sports teams and the Pirates too.
by Black&GoldTrain on Apr 14, 2011 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but
how long can he keep sucking in his gut?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 14, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
as long as I can watch a game
and wonder why I still root for this team
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"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." Wes Westrum
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by WVPiratesfan on Apr 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
....and I could post just as many showing otherwise.
We know you’re a Brewers’ fan…so what?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 14, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you saying that two parallel realities exist?
I’m not sure what being a fan of whatever team has to do with it.
Well, let's see...
I’m a fan of the Pirates. We don’t like the Brewers. So comments and pics are probably going to reflect that.
You are a Brewers’ fan. your replies and pics are going to reflect that in defense to the above.
The gamesmanship could go on endlessly.
Did you really need me to spell that out for you? You don’t seem that dumb, generally…
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 15, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn't respond
I’m not really defending anyone or anything. I get that its fun to post photoshopped pictures and call names.
I don’t subscribe to your notion that being a fan of the team means you have to act childishly.
I was kind of wandering about Cutch myself.
I haven’t got to see many games because of my work schedule… and my 8 month old son… Have any of you who get to watch games noticed a difference in his approach? Do you think he’s pressing from being in the 3 hole and going for more power? Just an early cold streak?
"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets do a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
RIP Corey Keller, James Taylor, M. Jay Darby, Derek Davis.
by gorillakilla34 on Apr 14, 2011 4:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the neck strain is bothering him
My own observations are that he has been keeping his upper body rigid and stiff since he strained his neck diving for the ball in Wrigley. i wonder if its taking him longer to heal fully. I would definately say he is not as losse on his swing over the last 10 days or so in my opinion.
i think cutch is just going through a bad spell
hard to swing as quick as cutch when you have a sore neck.
by white angus on Apr 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t got to see many games because of my work schedule… and my 8 month old son…
[A] Congratulations!
[B] Y’all got bad timing, amigo.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
you don't suppose
we are going to go .500 on the road, and only win 17 games at home?
Lack of hitting
In the back of my mind, I found myself worried (this off season) about this team hitting with authority.
Singles aren’t going to cut it.
I think we needed to add more than a Lyle Overbay.
with all do respect, the bunt should have been fielded by CORREIA, not Pedro
with a man on second, correia has the 3rd base line and overbay has the 1B line. correia flat out didnt pick the ball up. Pedro was exactly where he needed to be.
Watching it live
I couldn’t even figure out what happened, because KC sort of olé’d it. On replay, I think what happened was that he realized that it was going to reach Pedro, who would have a much better chance at actually making the throw. Except that PA wasn’t charging, for obvious reasons. I don’t know if it was a brain cramp by KC, or what. Actually, maybe he knew he couldn’t make the play and decided to hope for the ball to veer foul.
It was a really well-placed bunt. I’m not sure it was actually unplayable, but it was by no means a given that anyone can get the out at 1st. Still, maddening.
Announcers said (and one could hear)...
Pedro say “three three three” as in throw it to third, but Correia pulled up for a second the instant he yelled it as if he was claiming the bunted ball.
by tobynotjason on Apr 14, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed
As I said, on replay it looked like he changed his mind – he sort of twisted his body the way you do when you come around a corner and suddenly someone’s there.
Correia
I’m guessing this was mentioned in the game thread, but I, along with about 250 of my closest friends, was at the game last night, and what stood out about the 6th was that the GBs utterly disappeared. KC was a GB machine through 5 – I think Cedeno had 6 or more assists. On top of that were a few harmless FBs (no warning track iirc, or maybe 1) and a handful of LDs. Then, in the 6th, every single hit was either a hard LD, deep FB, or a bunt. Not a single GB, after probably 2-3 per inning through the first 5.
I don’t know if he just lost some control (his pitch count was still low – under 75), if he got freaked out by the muffed bunt, or if it was the third time through the order, but it turned quickly (although it’s worth noting that, if the bunt is fielded, no runs score that inning – he got harmless FBs from the next 2 batters).
Dunlap mentioned in yesterday’s PG+ chat that Correia simply doesn’t have the stuff to challenge anyone upstairs, and so he has to work down even more than most. He was obviously leaving it up once the 6th came on, whatever the reason.
They didn't disappear completely...
there was the one that Pedro kicked. There was another the Cedeno couldn’t get out of his glove to nail the runner at home. Of course there was the “bunt” hit. The defense was terrible that inning and he was part of it. I don’t know what he was thinking to let that bunt go by. The Pirate’s pitching is not good enough to be giving up extra outs. I also think, as you allude to in your last sentence, that it’s difficult for a guy like Correia to get through a lineup like Miluakees three or four times without giving up some solid contact.
There was another the Cedeno couldn’t get out of his glove to nail the runner at home.
I think Cedeno would’ve been hard-pressed to make that play.
I don’t know what he was thinking to let that bunt go by.
To me, it looked like Correia was thinking about trying to nail the lead runner at third, and while he was thinking it, he got distracted and missed his grab at the bunt, by which point he was too late to make the play at first, either.
Marcum really helped out my fantasy team tonight. I just wish it didn’t come at the expense of the Bucs, though.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Apr 14, 2011 9:36 AM EDT reply actions
It was not a good day for me
then this just topped it, I was ready to throw things
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"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." Wes Westrum
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Glad you highlighted the play at home, Vlad
It was really impressive all around – Tabata’s throw to the cutoff man was a touch high, but not problematic. Doumit was in great position, but the ball simply didn’t get there in time for him to be able to make the play.
And I was pondering the exact same thing after the Diaz catch. It was a strong throw, yet surprisingly far from getting the runner – watching the ball, I figured it would be bang-bang, but it really wasn’t.
Thanks, Vlad – wish I’d just had you write up the recap to begin with.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Apr 14, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
You got yours out about 12 hours before mine.
There’s something to be said for timeliness, too, y’know?
There were some miscues in the field, but if all the bats are ice-cold except Tabata, there’ll be a problem with run scoring.
by Adam Reynolds on Apr 14, 2011 12:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
...and Tabata's 10-game streak
was extinguished last night.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Apr 14, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
but not his on base streak
I mean, if he’s not gonna get stuff to hit, take the walk. And he did…
by BurgherKing on Apr 14, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
he definately does
and his bat looks really quick right now. dude looks like he belongs out there.
by white angus on Apr 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Now is an awkward time because guys like Alvarez, Cedeno, Overbay, and right field have gotten off to weak starts. But it will take roughly another 6 weeks to know whether these starts are real or an abberation.
by Adam Reynolds on Apr 14, 2011 2:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Pedro...
getting a rest tonight…Pearce at 3B.
I’m not that concerned there, because I didn’t have expectations defensively for Pedro and Ronny in the first place. Everyone knew three left side defense would be weak.
I have been curious about Walkers D, and so far, IMO, he’s been adequate (not a conclusive sample yet, of course).
by Adam Reynolds on Apr 14, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Attendance
I’m sitting here in upper 1st base territory for my second game of the year.
There are very few souls here.
Where is everybody?

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