Pirates Acquire Mike McKenry From Red Sox, Sign Sixth-Round Pick Dan Gamache
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jun 12, 2011 10:36 PM EDT
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PrintDejan Kovacevic thinks the Pirates have acquired catcher Mike McKenry from the Red Sox. McKenry, 26, is hitting .274/.369/.421 for Class AAA Pawtucket, and he hit .265/.328/.424 last year for Class AAA Colorado Springs, which is a great place for hitters. He's supposed to be strong defensively, so there's that, and he's probably slightly more likely to hit than Dusty Brown or Wyatt Toregas. All things considered, he's probably a modest upgrade. I'd still probably rather see Eric Fryer, but this at least is a step in the right direction.
This isn't confirmed yet, and what the Pirates are giving up isn't yet clear, although I assume it's insignificant.
UPDATE: It's confirmed. The Bucs will give up cash or a PTBNL. They have designated Toregas for assignment. There had to have been high fives all around the McKenry household tonight. "Hey! I'm a major-league starting catcher!"
Also, the Pirates have signed sixth-round pick Dan Gamache, a third baseman from Auburn, for $125,000. He should be strong defensively and I bet he'll demonstrate good plate discipline in the low minors, but he isn't a big power hitter. I'm guessing he'll start at State College. It's nice to see an early-round pick get under contract so quickly.
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Good, as long as they gave up nothing. McKenry should outhit both our current catchers.
(Full disclosure: I don’t know anything about this guy other than what’s on his stat line.)
No jinx no jinx no jinx.
McKenry should outhit both our current catchers
or maybe he wont.
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Should being the operative word in my post.
Although, really, it should be a slam dunk. All he needs is five hits over his tenure as a Pirate and less than two passed balls per game to be better than Brown and Toregas.
No jinx no jinx no jinx.
by Suffering Buc on Jun 12, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
youre dissing Toregas after one game, man... ONE.
Toregas gets my thumbs up for that wicked throw out of Reyes the other night.
we criticize these players for being called up because the major leaguers get hurt???
i dont see how this serves a purpose.
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re misreading me. I have plenty of respect for both Toregas and Brown. They’re just not Major Leaguers, and it isn’t their fault they’re on the roster right now. Injuries happen, and good for them for trying.
But they’re both horrific, and one caught-stealing for Wyatt doesn’t change that. McKenry’s minor league profile would seem to indicate he’ll be better. The bar has been set pretty low by Toregas and Brown.
No jinx no jinx no jinx.
by Suffering Buc on Jun 12, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
you have plenty of respect for them but you call them both HORRIFIC???
who are you? sybil???
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I respect their effort, not their ability. Is it that tough a concept?
No jinx no jinx no jinx.
by Suffering Buc on Jun 12, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont understand some of the venom towards these guys
we all know they are career minor leaguers, why do we have to continue to say they “suck, stink, are garbage”? or are horrific???
the same damn thing was said about Doumit last season and Snyder just a couple days after we traded for him.
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Because they're not good baseball players.
www.stealingfirstbase.com
by Stealing First Base on Jun 13, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I never said I was.
They’re way better than me. But relative to their peers, they’re not very good. I don’t see why it’s such a horrible thing to point out that they’re not good players at the Major League level.
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by Stealing First Base on Jun 13, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
i just dont like the shit poured onto our players, except ian snell of course
that would be like them coming to your job and saying that you dont pack their happy meal bag as good as the pizza faced teenager working the fryer
That's a poor analogy.
By becoming a professional athlete, you implicitly consent to criticism from the general public, within reason. By packing happy meals, you only really consent to criticism from your boss and possibly a customer you actually adversely affect.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
no way, dude... my analogy kicks ass
the only difference is that a happy meal at Fenway costs about $200
This bugs me a little bit, too
But just a little. They’re not major league caliber, but they’re still some of the best people on the planet at what they do. Easy to forget. And humbling.
by ThisYearsModel on Jun 13, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're a sensitive Sally.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
For some fans, that is all they have (to look forward to). Dissing the Pirates.
Personally, I don’t expect much from the catcher position once you’re down to the 4th or 5th guy on the depth chart so why waste breath pointing it out.
the same guys who constantly slam the players on here are the same guys who go to PNC Park and scream shit at the players...
yet they are “fans”?
i actually had to bring earplugs to the last game i went to.
That is incorrect.
First, it’s not slamming a player to say you don’t believe they are major league caliber. That is an opinion you are entitled to. Second, I express opinions here both positive and negative, but have enough class and respect to not be an obnoxious asshole at the games.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
oh, so you save the vile and hatred for this blog... thanks, man
wasnt referring to you in general, by the way
he ll be better than what we have at the moment, thats for sure. Im sure we just traded an organizational guy for him. as for gamache, they must have really loved him in round 6, cause thats definately an overdraft.
Well, .400 OBP hitters in the SEC don't exactly grow on trees
But I’ll concede you probably are with the scouting consensus in calling it an overdraft
I didnt say he isnt good. he is solid defensively. but with the other picks on the board, he was an overdraft.
with his early signature, sounds to me like they already had a predraft deal
just like mr tony sanchez
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone takes signable picks at some point. And higher round talents always fall. Once you get past the second or third round almost every pick can be considered an overdraft because there are better players on the board.
by thecheeseisblue on Jun 13, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, watch your mouth!
Nobody from AUBURN is an overdraft! Getting some AU flavor in the ’Burgh. Love it!
Ya’ll should all become Auburn fans…like me.
War Eagle! War Damn Gamache!
Gamache...
Probably start in SC but I wish he’d for right to West Va. Their third basemen have been terrible. Avilla has been awful on both sides of the ball. On McKenry, he has a little pedigree. He as named Rockies best catching prospect from 2008-2010 and he was the #14 rated prospect in 2010. Seems like a decent pick up.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
He cant be any worse than our 5th string catcher at the moment lol I think this just proved how much more work tony sanchez really has to do.
Well if sanchez was even borderline ready, they would have just called him up just to give him a shot. his offensive numbers have been down and his defense has been up and down as of late also. so many of us thought he be the starting catcher next year, but I dont believe so anymore.
His OBP has been great
I don’t agree that they would have called him up, even if he was tearing the cover off of the ball. Curry, Mccutchen, Castillo are about the only level skippers around these parts.
Yes
but, Avila probably has more upside than Gamache. There’s no reason to move Gamache to WV just to replace Avila. If he’s ready for it, by all means send him to WV, but not because Avila hasn’t played well.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 13, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I was being a little facetious...
I don’t know what Gamache’s ceiling is right now so I couldn’t tell you if he’s ready for WV or not. I expect him to be in State College regardless.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
Fair
enough. I’d just rather not move Avila out of the starting line-up or down a level. He just turned 21 last week in low A ball, actually has a solid BB:K ratio (13:24 in 173 AB), and put up .315/.358/.494 and .277/.327/.472 lines the last two years.
For the record, I’m more backing up my earlier reasoning in a general manner, not attacking you Slick since we sem to see pretty eye to eye.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 13, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I think this is a GREAT pickup...
if we didn’t give up anything.
im guessing we gave up someone(s) of consequence
McKenry should fetch more than the typical player to be named later, more than the Farrell or the CAnderson.
I think the Red Sox gave up a relief pitcher to get him...
so I’m expecting someone like that who’s on the roster bubble.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
for example? Lorin? Pribanic? Hughes? someone like those guys or more heralded?
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
thompson is on the 40 man, right?
dont think the Sox would put him on it… i could be wrong
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
PTBNL or cash...
even better. Seems like whenever I read the “or cash” provision included the transaction usually ends up being completed in cash.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
Don't they still owe us a PTBNL?
For that outfielder we loaned them last year…can’t remember his name…
No. I vaguely remember that we got back a low minor league org player to fill a roster spot.
Yinzers uber alles
I was just looking up stuff about Tony Sanchez.
Geez, if the dude doesn’t start to show more, he might be backing up Brown and Toregas at Indy next year.
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sarcasm?
his OBP alone is worthy enough to be considered a talent, especially at Catcher
by white angus on Jun 12, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarcasm, yes, served up with a small helping of seriousness.
He is far away from helping the major league club. Let’s see him help AA with some dominant play, and then Indy for a while, before we even consider him to be in the mix if Doumit and Snyder are not on the team next year.
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Why?
Like White Angus said, his OBP will be his main asset offensively. Overall, his defense is supposed to be his main allure as a starting major league catcher, and aside from a shoulder arm affecting his throwing, all scouting reports indicate that his defense is great, and I interpret that as being major league ready.
While it’s a good idea to keep him in the minors for a bit more, there’s no reason to see him “dominate” AA and AAA, because he’s not going to do that in the majors. He’s going to be somewhere from below-average to above-average offensively for a catcher (alot of that coming from his OBP) with moderate power, but will draw most of his value from his defense (assuming it’s as good as experts believe). He’s pretty damn close to major league ready in my opinion (admitted it’s a novice opinion).
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 13, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
scouts said that Sanchez is similar to Yadier Molina and could be a better bat....
now im not saying his glove is like Yadier, but they ARE comparing him to the best of the Molina boys, and thats saying something.
what ive seen in person from Tony is quick feet, shifts behind the plate well, good arm, and also a patient approach. the ball DID jump off his bat in batting practice but ive never seen him tag one in an actual game.
by white angus on Jun 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
white angus
I’m not saying Sanchez doesn’t have a chance to be a darn good defensive C. But at the same time, his shoulder concerns in the minors must worry the FO at least a bit.
He needs to be a top-notch C on D ‘cause I don’t think he’ll be much at the plate.
Regardless, he’s going to get more seasoning in the minors because the work is needed.
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"He’s going to be somewhere from below-average to above-average offensively for a catcher"
Curious analysis
“He’s pretty damn close to major league ready in my opinion”
Not according to some of the more astute members of this site, and I’ll take them at their word first.
He missed a ton of time last year and hasn’t exactly set the world on fire with any part of his game this year. Charlie, among others, has said he’s not ready. Maybe we’ll see him a bit in Sep., but a more likely guesstimate, IMO, is about this time next year.
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he'll have trouble catching Wakefield???
by white angus on Jun 13, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
@Patthatt
I think Sanchez could break Spring Training next year as the Pirates starting Catcher next year and be reasonably effective, and I think “some of the more astute members of this site” (not sure if that was a shot at me?) would agree.
He’s holding his own at AA (the hardest transition in the minors supposedly), has an advanced approach at the plate, and he’s ready defensively behind the plate (what more could he actually learn down at AA).
Other’s may disagree. In fact, someone (I honestly can’t remember who or find the comment) likened Sanchez playing in the big leagues now to a 7th grader, even a very talented one, playing high school basketball. Well, O.J Mayo average 23.1 points a game playing for his high school varisty high school team while still in 7th grade. I know that’s far from a perfect analogy, but players have jumped from AA to the big leagues and succeeded, even players more “raw” than Sanchez.
That’s the key to me, Sanchez is a floor oriented prospect, with some upside. He’s an advanced college player. Now, the key to our disagreement may be semantics over the definition of “pretty damn close to major league ready,” but if I see Tony Sanchez up in the big leagues by June of next year, that will fit my definition. If you are talking about this September, then yes I agree with you, that would be too soon and unwise. Either way, we made this trade, so now Tony will have plenty of time to develop, which can only help him.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 13, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
""some of the more astute members of this site" (not sure if that was a shot at me?"
It wasn’t so sorry if it seemed that way.
“pretty damn close to major league ready," IMO, doesn’t read like a year from now. I can see him in the mix next year at some point, like you say, which means he has quite a ways to go, especially after the missed opportunities of last year.
We heard Alvarez wasn’t ready a year ago at AAA for a variety of reasons at the plate and in the field, and then he was in Pgh. right after Strasburg’s debut. The last thing Sanchez needs ts to be pushed into the bigs after a few dozen games at AA.
I could be wrong, but I think you underestimate the difference between AA and the majors.
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i think laroche not playing well plus his back issues had a little bit to do with alvarez getting the call
dont think the FO wanted a few weeks of Crosby starting at the 5
Okay
ya, it just seemed like our definition. I’d imagine the real answer lies somewhere in between our opinions, probably leaning towards your direction after reading your argument that way.
I in no way suggest we bring up now, just I think’s he’s more major league ready than say, Starling Marte.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 13, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
"Catcher Wyatt Torgas DFA"
There will come a day when we’ll all have a soft spot in our hearts for Wyatt Toregas. As a matter of fact, I can see cocktails inviting him to a Gathering in a few years.
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Anybody named Wyatt
is an automatic invite, in my book…
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jun 13, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Dusty to Wyatt – Wyatt this town’s not big enough for the both of us. Now pack your bags and get out. I don’t want to see you until the next gathering.
Yinzers uber alles
by BostonBuc on Jun 13, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
QUESTION:
How much catching has he done this year?
We’ve been talking a bunch about Fryer for backup C this year and beyond. But I see him on the AA and AAA rosters as an OF. I know he’s a pretty good athlete and WTM’s profile says he’s played a good bit of OF in the past, but I’d hope he is working primarily as a C now.
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Fryer has played mostly OF the past year. he is supposed to get more reps at Catcher as long as Sanchez isnt on the same roster
by white angus on Jun 13, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
So he needs to play more at C, especially in the upper minors, to prove that he is worthy
of being in the C mix in Pgh. late this year or next.
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I did an interview
with Kyle Stark last week. You can listen to the podcast on the Extra Innings site. He discusses Fryer at length. Will catch everyday in Indy.
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So maybe this explains why Fryer is still at AAA.
If the Bucs see him in the mix at C, especially for ’12, he obviously has to work every day at C.
Knee-jerk reaction recalls of prospects like Fryer and Sanchez can screw up their development. It’s better to mix and match while we have to with nobodies Brown and Toregas. Hopefully McKenry will prove himself to be worthy of being in the mix for next year too.
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That's
especially true considering we aren’t contending this year. While .500 would be nice, it should be more of symbolic stepping stone than a real goal. No reason to screw up kids in the minors to win a few extra games this year.
In a way, I’m kinda upset at this trade, but the situation was that desperate, so as long as we gave up nothing other than a fringe guy, I’d be okay with it.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 13, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
09 scouting report for Colorado. Rated #5 Prospect
Defense – strong defense behind the plate, known as a good receiver with strong leadership skills and a plus arm…McKenry threw out almost of half of opposing base stealers last year.
One red flag is that he has been old for his level over the course of his career. He’ll be 24 to start the year in AA.
Best Case Outcome – An average everyday catcher with strong defense and plus power
More Likely Outcome – A below average everyday catcher that lacks the contact ability to hit for a respectable average. At worst, he’s a back-up. His defensive ability should find him a spot somewhere on an MLB roster.
2010 scouting report for Colorado. #7 Prospect
(From Fangraphs)
(Also sorry, I don’t mean to steal your thunder on this, just came across it is all)
Just 5’10", McKenry generates surprising pop thanks to his squat build. He also historically hits for a pretty solid average and gets on base. Overall in ’09, he hit .279/.376/.455 in 358 double-A at-bats. He did see a decline in power last season as his ISO rate dropped from .210 in ’08 to .176. However, his walk rate remained strong at 12.9% and his strikeout rate dropped 6% to 19.3%. McKenry is a notoriously slow starter and his numbers could improve if he can find a way to get the bat going in April and May. Defensively, he’s a born leader who does a nice job of throwing out base runners (33% in ’09). He has the potential to be a solid big league regular, and he should have a nice MLB career even if he doesn’t hit as well as he did in the minors.
by thecheeseisblue on Jun 13, 2011 3:24 AM EDT reply actions
And 09.
Catcher Michael McKenry has hit 40 home runs in the past two seasons in A-ball and has above-average power for his position. He also slugged nine homers in the Arizona Fall League this past off-season. The big question, though, is how well he’ll hit for average after batting .287 in 2007 and .258 in 2008. McKenry has the defensive skills to play in the Majors and threw out more than 40 percent of base stealers in 2008.
by thecheeseisblue on Jun 13, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
BA's take
He’s a very good catcher who threw out 46% of attempted steals in 2008.
He moves well behind the plate, likes to work a pitcher through a game and has a plus arm, augmented by a quick release. Now the offense is starting to come, too. He has shown legitimate power the last two years, quickly gets into hitting position and plants his front leg firmly.
The down side is that he doesn’t make enough contact to be a starter.
Viva Clemente!
and his nickname is "Quadzilla"
Good defensive catcher, but won’t hit much at all.
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He was merely okay at AAA Colorado Springs, which severely inflates all offensive numbers.
He could be an adequate MLB catcher, but that’s with the bar set pretty low.
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Because he played at several offensive parks, especially Colorado Springs
and he doesn’t hit for a great average desptie that. Also, his home/road splits last year in AAA were beyond horrible
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
and his OBP is more than acceptable
you keep looking for the negative, and i will keep finding the positive
while it is a SSS, he has only thrown out 19% of runners this year — a career low.
Without knowing what is going on @ Pawtucket w/ respect to holding runners, etc., I don’t want to put incredible weight on that figure….but it is a career low (and by a lot).
by insane_sanity on Jun 13, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Assuming the PTBNL is no one of note, I like the trade.
I think McKenry profiles as a .320/.380 guy with good defense (based on reports). Not outstanding, but better than the options we have now, with the exception of perhaps Fryer.
Fryer to me is a wildcard. His bat is definitely interesting for a catcher, but how much has he caught the past few years and what’s his rep behnind the plate?
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
You're allowed to send cash, if you really want to.
The Red Sox would be happy, and I’m sure the Pirates will be happy too.
trade logic
the price will be higher than you expect, because we need him and boston not a charity. Look for a locke, farrell, or even a presely type of player yo go in return.
57-105 come on "sale the team"
With an option of PTBNL or cash, the logical choice would be one of our better prospects.
Thank you Ned Colletti.
Blass, Kip Wells, Ryan Vogelsong
And the rest of the Pirates starters who couldn’t hit the Pentagon with a baseball from 60’ 6".
s.zielinski
no, just Blass the announcer
Blass the pitcher i can deal with
by white angus on Jun 13, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
only if you spell his name right
then, maybe
by white angus on Jun 13, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't see the potential PTBNL to be significant
McKendry likely was Boston’s 4th option at catcher behind Salty, Varitek and Exposito (I put McKendy 4th because Exposito is on their 40-man roster and thus more likely to be recalled if had someone gone down with an injury).
That would be like the Pirates trading Bowker to a desperate team needing depth (2nd option to be recalled after Presley).
IMHO, unless Boston later this year is in a similar position than us now and needs some depth somewhere (think like “you bailed us out, we owe you one”), the Pirates will only send cash.
by From France on Jun 13, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
good points, but Salty/Varitek probably arent going to be around Boston too long
plus they know they can always go out and buy what they need at pretty much any position.
by white angus on Jun 13, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
He was taking up space for the Red Sox
boston not a charity
No, but it’s not like Red Sox didn’t need to move him. McKenry was acquired earlier this season from the Rockies when the Red Sox had serious concerns about their catching. Since then, Saltalamacchia and Varitek have settled in nicely and McKenry is just a spare part that had to be cleared out to make room for an actual prospect.
I’m sure they’d be perfectly content with an organizational player who doesn’t have to occupy a roster spot.
as desperate as we are at catcher, i'm just glad we didnt get totally fleeced
it doesnt sound like that will be the case
though surprising they'd give up a catcher prospect
they have depth issues at catcher themselves.
by Brian in 317 on Jun 13, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think prospect is a reach. I’ve seen Pawtucket twice this year and he’s caught neither. It might just be timing, but I don’t think they had plans for him. Think Argenis Diaz who was never going to play in Boston.
Salty has been fine recently, and honestly the Sox don’t need anything from catcher other than defense since they score about 10 runs a game.
Yinzers uber alles
eh
I think of it this way — hopefully this is a guy Hurdle knows something about; he is a guy from Colorado, where Hurdle spent some time.
Hopefully he’s comfortable with his ability to catch-and-throw — that’s what we need right now.
Congratulations on acquiring Quadzilla (you'll understand the nickname when you see him)
In his only MLB start, he batted in the 3-hole and K’d four times.
He hit an absolute shot in spring training a good 3- feet over the CF wall when I was in attendance.
He’s a very good character guy.
MLB caliber defensively, and has been for years.
Has some pop, but his bat likely won’t play in an MLB lineup longterm.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
We're just Rockies fans trying to give you a headsup on the guy.
We all like McKenry, but don’t expect much out of his bat.
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I'm
excited to get home and see. Can’t watch videos at work.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 13, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I like a man with big legs.
Or a man who makes his career being a tweener in AAA who looks like a dinosaur.
Thank you Ned Colletti.
McKenry is the catcher for you!
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and
he did get the golden sombrero in the only game he had w/ 4 ABs.
that’s an accomplishment!
by insane_sanity on Jun 13, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw Mike play in HS and at MTSU
Great guy who works hard. Wish him the best.
man, this is just a total shot in the dark
but I have a good feeling about this guy. I don’t expect him to be Joe Mauer but this team desperately needs guys that can get on base. I bet he breathes a little extra life into the lineup.
"It's nice to get an early round pick signed early"
When he’s supposed to go close to round 20, I imagined he wet his pants when a 125K number came out.
What a stretch he was, esp when his teammate, a SS who was projected to go 10 rounds before him was still sitting there at the time.
Felt like a pick straight out of moneyball
Not neccessarily a good thing, considering that the draft done in moneyball has looked like a very average draft, albeit a good value draft, but that’s the vibe I get from that pick
Gamache
Is going to surprise some people. I have a few contacts that played at Auburn who spoke highly of his hit tool and his arm. One current minor leaguer, in a top 5 system, called him “one of the best hitters he has ever played with” including pro ball.
No reason to dump on a guy you’ve never seen play or know nothing about.
I hope you are right about Gamache...
that would be a nice surprise. With his supposed excellent defense he could become an interesting player.
No reason to dump on a guy you’ve never seen play or know nothing about.
Doens’t look to me like he was dumping on the guy. He was simply pointing out that the pick was a reach in the 6th and I agree with him. Doesn’t mean he won’t turn out to be a great pick which would be a credit to the Buccos scouts who watched him but he wasn’t rated very highly by anyone coming into the draft and there were a lot of players rated higher still available.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
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