My cockamamie radical realignment idea
Here's my cockamamie idea for radical realignment: base it on market size, geography, and common or uncommon sense.
Basic premise: Six divisions of 5 teams each.
Interleague play: Two options. One is to do away with American/National, and just have MLB, so it's all interdivisional play. Interleague play becomes a non-issue. The other option is to split my divisions into AL and NL, and in that case, interleague play every day. Deal with it.
DH: Either have it or don't, but discuss it in some other thread. I'm not a purist, but wouldn't care if there was no DH. But I'd rather have it one way or the other, not both like we do now.
Scheduling: Unbalanced, NFL-style. Play more games intra-division, and a set number of games against other divisions. More on that at the bottom.
Why it'll never fly: MLB doesn't want a division like my AL East. They don't want the possibility of one team making the playoffs from that division, they want all of them to make it. In fact, they want my AL East and AL West teams to be the playoff teams every year. My system is much too fair. On the other hand, the Yankees and Mets would play 16 times a year or so, instead of six, so maybe they'd go for that tradeoff.
The hardest part was the Western divisions. To make all division have the same number of teams, the Texas teams are "western". So let's start there.
NL West, or MLB Mountain Westish
Colorado
Arizona
San Diego
Seattle
Oakland
Oakland and Seattle switch leagues if it's AL/NL. They don't have the tradition to complain. Oakland should just move to Sacramento or something, but I don't think that changes anything here. There are some sub-major but still large markets in northern California, but I don't know if they favor SF or Oakland or LA or who, so I'm open to shuffling these two decks.
AL West or MLB West or Big Money New Money Westernish
LAD
LAA
SF
Houston
Texas
Houston, SF, and LAD switch leagues. Houston doesn't have the tradition to complain, and SF and LAD are historical carpetbaggers anyway. They get what they deserve.
AL East or MLB Big City Fat Cat Rich Guys or Something
NYY
NYM
Philadelphia
Boston
Washington
I don't see the Mets having a huge connection with the NL. Philly yes, but something's got to give. One thing about the 15-team division idea is that the Yankees and Boston will always make the playoffs (that's why MLB is floating the idea). My way, the rich guys can fight for one title and a wildcard.
NL East or MLB Misfit Second Cityish
Atlanta
Florida
CHC
CHWS
Toronto
Splitting Chicago makes the market sizes match up well, even if the Cubs are more popular there. Toronto might fit better in the Big City Division, but it acts more like it belongs here.
AL Central or MLB Centralish
Detroit
Minnesota
St. Louis
Tampa
Baltimore
STL is an NL Team but preserving league ties really isn't important to me. It's a new generation.
NL Central or MLB Runts
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Cleveland
KC
Milwaukee
Switching MIL and STL wouldn't bother me, considering MIL's sweetheart parking revenue situation. That would fix the NL purist objections, and in almost any arrangement these last two divisions should be competitive among all ten teams.
Overall, if it's AL/NL, the bigger markets are heavily on the AL side. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. The point was grouping market size, so it would still be the big markets duking it out in one league too.
Playoffs: If AL/NL, three division winners, one wild card. If MLB, six division winners, next two best records (so it is possible to have three teams from one division make the playoffs). Seed the playoff teams by record. I think MLB really wants 10 playoff teams, but the issues they face with that are pretty much the same under any format. That is, you can't do it without a playoff bye for two teams.
Schedule could be concocted a number of ways. Similar to the NFL, you could play your own division a bunch, and three other divisions in a given year. The following year, you'd play the two divisions you didn't play in the previous year, plus one that you did, and just keep rotation the three other divisions you play.
Year 1:
Intradivision: 4x16=64
Interdivision1: 5x6=30
Interdivision2: 5x6=30
Interdivision3: 5x6=30
Year 2:
Intradivision: 4x16=64
Interdivision4: 5x6=30
Interdivision5: 5x6=30
Interdivision1: 5x6=30
etc.
Or you could play every division, 4 games each, rotating home and away each year. That way, every team in baseball would come to your town once every two years.
Or... any number of other ways.
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my only quip is on your NL E, AL Central and NL Central, some dont make sense such as Tampa playing in a central divison being in the eastern south…or the Cubs/WSox being in the east, otherwise, very good.
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!
It's a give and take
I’d say Houston and Texas are “central” teams, but if there’s 30 teams and I want even divisions, then some alignments are going to be counterintuitive.
interesting concept
dividing based on market size… I don’t like it though, I would rather have geographical rivals than compete based on revenue
Just add two teams to the AL
and go with 4-4 team divisions
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I used
Charlotte and Nashville because it worked better, but San Antonio probably should go first.
Because they're good-size cities
In somewhat underserved areas.
Portland, San Antonio OK too. Not many places left to put a baseball team.
nashville isnt exactly a metropolis of wealth
and charlotte doesnt even support its tripleA team… granted their stadium is in the middle of nowhere, but dead last in attendance again.
by white angus on Jun 16, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Supports
an NFL team and a hockey team. Give them something to do in the summer.
But no, I agree San Antonio ought to get the next one, if ever. I was just looking for good-size cities to make my alignment work.
i dont think either city really supports the NHL teams, and debatable about the NFL
but i see what youre doing. good job.
by white angus on Jun 17, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
why not a team in Mississippi or Louisanna, both are good college baseball fans, would be a smaller market but they would have fans no doubt. Also like a team in the Carolina’s would work too.
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!
well, when it comes to revenue, i dont see MISS or LOU getting any teams started up, much less transplanted
and for some reason, i just dont think baseball will work in Carolina. they could care less about their Knights…
by white angus on Jun 17, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Then move teams around to make divisions exactly like the NFL
Would be easier to remember and natural rivalries improved. Best part is Pirates would be in a division with Reds, Indians, and Orioles.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jun 17, 2011 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm neither opposed nor in favor of expansion
In addition to the watering-down of talent argument, what we’re really talking about is adding two more small market teams. I haven’t researched it, but I’m not sure there’s enough demand or money in markets like Portland to build a proper venue and provide the needed level of support. Unless a team was added in the NYC area, and while there’s money and people there, I don’t think it will ever happen.
I’d sooner talk about contracting Tampa and Toronto, or Florida before they built the new park.
and Toronto has a huge market that might be retapped one day...
oakland, however, will not be reliving any glory years. i guess you could move the team? the San Antonio Athletics?
by white angus on Jun 16, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
If MLB had any serious interest in competitive balance, it’d look at something like this.
You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.
More competitive balance
I proposed something like this last year on another thread, but w/o the geography. Just divide all MLB into three divisions based on market size/income: Small, Medium and Large. Let the teams in each division play each other all year with the winners of each division plus the non-winner with the best winning percentage meet in the playoffs.
I’ll stop. Don’t want to hijack your post. Thanks for the creative ideas.
Lino Donoso
I only steal good ideas
I’ve been touting this type of idea to friends for a while now so it’s possible I took your idea and ran with it. I don’t recall it, so I’m sorry if it’s close to what you proposed.
No need to apologize
An idea can occur to more than one person, my friend. Glad to have company. We need more creative thinkers. God knows there don’t seem to be many in the offices of MLB.
Lino Donoso
Sacramento
I know I beat this to death but…19th largest media market and largest without ML football or baseball. Fans here historically have followed the Giants, but have hosted A’s AAA franchise for 10 years, almost always lead MiLB in attendance, and frequently outdraw Oakland when they’re playing on the same day. Big issue is relative lack of corporate sponsorship, which is why while Oakland toys with Sactown but prefer San Jose/Silicon Valley with its Googles and Apples. That’s part of the Giants’ “zone”. We’d love to have the A’s here, been working on that for decades. Plus, we could install one of the McClatchys as managing owner!
Interesting ideas here, I agree that something needs to be done, but fighting against both history and entrenched money interests is going to be tough.
If you install one of the McClatcheys as owner
Next thing you know you’ll have Dave Littlefield as your General Manager.
Lino Donoso
I'm pretty sure
this would get flogged by commentators and fans as a version of soccer, with an A league and a B league.
A version of soccer
That’s what we’ve got now, but nobody wants to admit it.
Lino Donoso
AFC North plus Tampa
Switch Baltimore and Tampa for Milwaukee and KC.
- Market size isn’t that different.
- This creates a division with the AFC North teams plus Tampa. Builds on the rivalries between those cities.
- Cuts down on travel. Tampa doesn’t have to travel as far as often. Pirates go to Tampa which isn’t far from Bradenton … home away from home?
- KC and Milwaukee are closer geographically to Minnesota and St. Louis.
- St. Louis – KC would develop a cross-state rivalry a la Cincinnati-Cleveland
- St. Louis and Milwaukee keep the Beertown rivalry going.
- Then consider switching Tampa for Toronto. Tampa gets to play geographic rivals in Florida. The AFC North teams can travel to Toronto as easily as Tampa.
Switch San Diego and Oakland for Texas and Houston. All big cities. Maintains a SF-Oakland rivalry. Creates an all California division so when the big one hits and California tumbles into the sea, MLB doesn’t have to re-align the divisions again.
Thought about the California idea
But see the link to the metro area population chart. Dallas and Houston are much bigger than Phoenix, Seattle and Denver.
The KC, BAL for Tampa and MIL switch is not a bad idea.
Why don't we just have the small market teams get an extra strike when they are at bat?
Maybe it’s 2 strikes and yer out for large market teams, 3 strikes for medium, and 4 strikes for small markets. That should really help the competitive balance, I’d say.
Har-har Har-de-har-har
as The Great One would say.
Lino Donoso
So, you're paring it back to 154 games, eh?
I enjoy the alternate Division names the best.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
If they arnt going to put in a salary cap
They almost have to do something to seperate big markets and small markets. Can you Imagine us in the AL east? Tampa bay is a Freak, any other small market would have no chance.
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