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Pirates 5, Orioles 4: Back To .500

Nice win today for the Pirates, who return to .500 and leave themselves in decent shape with a very tough series against the Boston Red Sox coming up. The Bucs scored two when they started the first inning with three straight hits (including a great bunt by Josh Harrison, and I've been complaining less about some of the Bucs' bunts recently because a fair number of them have had some chance of working as hits, as opposed to merely being sacrifices).

The Pirates gave those two back in the third inning, then allowed two more in the fourth on a two-run double by J.J. Hardy. At that point, I was frustrated that the Bucs had blown their early lead. But they grabbed an extra run in the bottom of the inning on a double by Andrew McCutchen and a groundout by Neil Walker, then picked up two more in the fifth when Brandon Wood and Michael McKenry started the inning with singles and then Harrison hit a grounder that went through the legs of Orioles second baseman Blake Davis, who was making a major-league debut that I'm sure he wishes he could have back.

Kevin Correia got through six innings, striking out five and walking one but allowing four runs. The Pirates' bullpen got through three scoreless frames. The Bucs didn't need to use Jeff Karstens, fortunately, although it I was curious to see how the end of the game would play out when the Pirates used three relievers in the seventh - Tim Wood and Dan McCutchen were unavailable.

Also, the Pirates demoted Andrew Lambo to Altoona; the newly-reacquired Josh Rodriguez will take his spot at Indianapolis. Lambo had been horrific at Class AAA, so this makes sense, but it's a shame that he needs to head down - he's been at Class AA since 2008.

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I'll be at the Reds/Yankees game tonight!

I go to Ohio State, so Cinci is a short hour and half drive. A fraternity brother offered me a free ticket to go with him, I said, “sure, why the hell not!”

How many people at Great American Ballpark will be there rooting for the Yankees… solely because of the games impact on the Pirates? Answer: one. Yours truly.

by Zach Buccos on Jun 22, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I get your point and I can tell you that in general there will be many Yankee fans there anyway. And they will be loud and obnoxious, per usual.

"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto

by blackjackfishtaco on Jun 22, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope that's a double header

Because I saw them playing a game this afternoon on the TV.

by JRoth95 on Jun 22, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Day-Night DH due to a rainout last night

by Thunder on Jun 22, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great to be a 500 team again!

But on a sad note. What is up with Lambo? I hope he figures it out. Id be embarrassed to be replaced by JRod. BRING ON THE SOX!

by Joey Mooney on Jun 22, 2011 3:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

What is up with Lambo?

He’s rapidly playing his way into non-prospect status.

On the plus side, that’s one more 40-man roster spot we won’t need to use this offseason…

by Vlad on Jun 22, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should teach us to gloat over trades.

by bolton on Jun 22, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still we got him for an overachieving closer

who the Dodgers kept on their roster for about 6 weeks

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." Wes Westrum
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Jun 23, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that this team didn’t immediately wilt after a bad series in Cleveland. Last year, they couldn’t get out of their funk in June, and by the time it was done, so was their season.

Something is different now.

No jinx no jinx no jinx.

by Suffering Buc on Jun 22, 2011 3:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well technically, they did immediately wilt, but they bloomed right after. I really hope these last 2 games mean we’re out of that offensive funk.

by Akshay R on Jun 22, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The offense should be fine . . .

as long as we keep facing starters with bad backs and newbie infielders behind them.

You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.

by WTM on Jun 22, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously it was an infinitely makable play

But, FWIW, Harrison scorched the ball. I don’t feel as bad getting lucky on a well-struck ball; if that had been an easy two-hopper, the victory would feel a bit more hollow.

by JRoth95 on Jun 22, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they are thinking about Starling Marte for a promotion to Indy sometime soon.

The one thing that seems to be holding him back is his walk rate. Everything else is looking good for him. I think I would see if he could refine that issue in AAA, since he is still able to keep a .371 OBP in AA despite only taking 10 walks for a less than 4% BB/PA rate.

by MarkInDallas on Jun 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Pirates!

Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you

by Scranton on Jun 22, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

A Little Like 1997.......

Of course, there’s a ton of baseball left, but this club reminds me of the grit and determination of the 1997 team. Short losing streaks are stopped, and the club is capable of rebounding after tough losses, like the Mets meltdown. The Red Sox are tough, but San Diego took them down yesterday, and the Pods led at the moment. It’s impressive to see the Bucs have won two of the three interleague series encounters to date.

After the O’s win in the series opener, there was a stupid, mocking headline on the counterpart to this blog. It partly mimicked the “We are Family” phrase from ’79, proving some people need to show a little more imagination.

by SteelStealth on Jun 22, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The O’s won the series openers in ’71 and ’79, too. It worked just as well for them this week as it did then.

by Traco Bucco on Jun 22, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to take Boston down a peg or two!

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by AlexStitch on Jun 22, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Honestly

I’ll take 1 win against Boston. A series win… I’m ecstatic. A sweep… then I’m probably dead and currently watching ROOT sports in heaven.

by Zach Buccos on Jun 22, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

The nice thing is facing Boston at home with no DH.

Theoretically, all 3 of these games with Boston could go either way. Lester and Maholm is about a push right now, and the Pirates hit better against LHPs. Beckett has the flu and might not pitch or be weakened. Karstens seems to thrive under the big spotlight and could turn in another surprising performance. JMac is going to have to get back on track, but you never know what you’re going to get with Wakefield at this point.

The Red Sox might play AGon in PNC’s short right field to get Ortiz in the lineup. That could either work in their favor or against them, depending on the luck of balls hit his way.

by MarkInDallas on Jun 22, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

The nice thing is facing Boston at home with no DH.

Word is that they’re going to use Ortiz at first and Gonzalez in the OF.

by Vlad on Jun 22, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahaha

oh maaaaan… dont tease us like that

by white angus on Jun 22, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

They won a WS with Ortiz playing some first.

I think it shows that many players supposedly having their careers prolonged by the DH could actually take the field if the DH did not exist. Bonds , for example, was a statue at the end of his career and yet he still managed to take the field.

by bolton on Jun 22, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lester and Maholm is about a push right now

that’s pretty generous for paul right there

by johnnycuff on Jun 22, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially if you adjust for strength of schedule, as well as the fact that Maholm will be facing Murderers’ Row and Lester will be facing a t-ball team.

You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.

by WTM on Jun 22, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we're a t-ball team

overbay is the kid that closes his eyes, smacks the sh*t out of the tee and hits the ball about 3 feet.

by johnnycuff on Jun 22, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It Gets Better

Or it could, anyway. Milwaukee’s done for the day, just 3 games ahead of us. Both the Reds and St. Lou play teams better than themselves tonight. If all goes well (Go Yanks! Go Phils!), we could wake up tomorrow tied for 3rd place, 3 behind MIL and 2.5 behind STL.

Granted, we’ve got a tough weekend ahead of us, but a man can dream, can’t he?

by JRoth95 on Jun 22, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like to remember the Yankee series in 2008

when we took 2 out of 3… I remember Maholm pitching 7 inn of 2 run ball in the series decider…

by BurgherKing on Jun 22, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the Padres gave the Red Sox trouble

I’d be thrilled with two out of three.

"Throw strikes, but don't give him anything good to hit."

by RichieHebner on Jun 23, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

In some ways it’s fine to go after still-considered-prospects-but-have-seen-better-days. The mistake is going after ones that have ALSO been mismanaged, like Lambo. Seems like he went through the system too fast without taking the time to develop, etc. AA since 2008? Yikes.

by CO_Bucs on Jun 22, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

He is still age appropriate for AA though,isn’t he?

by BarryJT on Jun 22, 2011 7:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, he’s not too old to turn things around. But there have been concerns about his “makeup” since high school, which is why he fell to the fourth round. Also, he doesn’t project to be the type of 25-to-30 homer guy you want in the outfield, and he doesn’t make up for that deficiency with athleticism.

by bolton on Jun 22, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we don't have any outfielders -- present or near future --

that are going to hit 25-30 HRs that you want from an outfielder. We’re gonna be the exception to the rule for the forseeable future (unless we trade for a power bat).

by mspirate on Jun 22, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s true. At least Gorkys, Marte and Presley have other tools. Lambo can’t run, field or throw particularly well. He’s an all-bat prospect, so he really needs to rake.

by bolton on Jun 22, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen Lambo, too, but not since he was in the Dodgers’ organization.

He was a good pitcher in high school, but the arm is no better than average in the outfield. I don’t recall his running time from home to first, but it wasn’t anything interesting.

by bolton on Jun 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Power != home runs. Andres Torres had a higher ISO than Prince Fielder last year, despite hitting 16 home runs to Prince’s 32.

by thecheeseisblue on Jun 22, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two big wins in a row...

Now if we can just get through the Red Sox/Blue Jays gauntlet with 2 wins in 6 tries I’ll be excited heading into the stretch thereafter with the Nats, Cubs and Astros dotting the schedule.

Good day.

by UncleNate on Jun 22, 2011 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

9-6

for our last 15 games before the all star break is a realistic goal, I think.

by joepinion on Jun 22, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to bet 3/6

I’m guessing that we’ll be able to win one against the Sox and two against the Jays. We’re going to hold on to our .500, Uncle Nate.

by Chileburger on Jun 22, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

I like seeing the optimistic and confidence in this blog for once. love it

age of last winning season: 5

by Bobby Hill on Jun 22, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice, this is the new marker to get off the check list this year. damn we were bad last year lol

We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!

by C Shint on Jun 22, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what's the over/under date?

Let’s see, they’re scheduled to play their 114th game on August 8 (vs. the Giants). If miraculously, they’re still .500 at that point, it would be their 57th win – unless they were over .500 the day before, of course.

Is there anyone who’d take the underª on 8/8? Who’ll take the over on, say, 8/31?

Personally, I could see them still being at .500 by 8/8, but I wouldn’t bet on it, either way. Even at my most optimistic (the pitchers don’t regress! Doumit, Pearce, and Pedro all come back and rake! We trade Ciriaco for Reyes and Beltran!), I think I’d take the over on 8/1. All of which is to say that they should top their 2010 win total sometime during August, probably in the first half or two-thirds.

ª that is, they’ll get to 57 wins before then

by JRoth95 on Jun 22, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i would say before the end of august is reasonable

We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!

by C Shint on Jun 22, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was at the game today

Did anyone else think Wood looked like a statue at short? (except, I guess for the rifle shot he pulled in)

non sequitor alert

During last night’s game I turned to my wife and said “If McKenry gets a hit here, we’ll win.” He did and we did. This afternoon I said to the guy next to me, “If McKenry gets a hit here, we’ll win.” He did and we did. McKenry’s hitting streak could take us to the World Series. All need is for him to hit safely in the next 88 games…

by crusty on Jun 22, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

But he is hitting over . 290 with an OPS over .750 in June so I’ll take that.

by BarryJT on Jun 22, 2011 7:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

Amazingly, according to both wRC+ and OPS+ he’s been above-average at the plate for the month of June — and that’s without a ridiculous BABIP (.333 on balls in play, which is well above-average and waaaay above his career total but not ridiculous). Anyone can have a hot month — except before June you probably would’ve said “except Brandon Wood.” Small sample size still, but I’m off the “dump Wood when we need a spot” bandwagon. Unless of course he starts sucking again by the time we need a spot.

Not actually affiliated with whygavs.

by WHYG Zane Smith on Jun 22, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Searage is the pitching coach!?

Although he has been so genius this year, maybe he should take over all of the coaching.

by Central*Scrutinizer on Jun 22, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the joke.

Thank you Ned Colletti.

by ryebr3ad on Jun 22, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not so much that he’s been hot, but just solid, which find more encouraging.

by BarryJT on Jun 22, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, hot for him

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by WHYG Zane Smith on Jun 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard

Beckett might not pitch due to the flu.

by filteru2 on Jun 22, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

The bad news is that Rudy Owens got hammered again…8 H, 4 R in 2.1 IP…Justin Wilson is actually on in relief. And he was the scheduled starter for tomorrow.

by Thunder on Jun 22, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darn it. I really thought Owens was going to have a good season.

by bolton on Jun 22, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Owens can turn the ship around and learn how to pitch to these better hitters, then it WILL be a good season

we cant expect him to pitch every game like he did the last 2 seasons. a good way to judge a player is to see if and how he recovers from failure.

by white angus on Jun 22, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Rudy is getting hammered before games

he’s going to keep giving up a lot of hits.

Maybe we need to dispatch Cocktails to teach him how to hold his liquor?

by Garrett122 on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh nice, he was destroyed i believe his first time out, nice to see him come out strong this time around

We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!

by C Shint on Jun 22, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more nice thing about

taking this series from the O’s….

Last year at this time, the Pirates were 25-50. The reason they had fallen so badly was that we had losing streaks of 7, 5, 12 – yes, almost two freaking weeks without a win – and we were in the midst of a 6-game losing streak about this time.

This year, the Pirates have had a single six-game losing streak (no jinx!!) and we just fought back from our second longest losing streak – 4 games – to get to .500.

I’m no sports psychologist, but I’m a blogger, so I’ll offer an opinion anyway. It’s got to be a little more enjoyable to wake up and go to your job when there’s a good chance you’ll have a positive feeling about your day’s work.

What does that mean?!

by Trogluddite on Jun 22, 2011 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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