Pirates 7, Astros 5, 11 Innings: Alex Presley Comes Up Big Yet Again
The Bucs pulled out a 7-5 win in 11 innings to take two out of three from the Astros on Sunday. The 'Stros picked up one in the first on an RBI single by Hunter Pence, but Kevin Correia came through in a big way with two on in the second, driving a ball to left. That ordinarily would've plated only one, but fortunately, Carlos Lee can't play defense, and let the ball get by him. 2-1 Pirates.
The Astros retook the lead in the third on a very weird at-bat by Jeff Keppinger with one on. The count went to 3-0, and then Correia threw a ball low that was called a strike. It appeared that someone on the Astros' bench said something about it. Correia's next pitch was also low, but umpire Eric Cooper paused before calling strike two, obviously sticking it to the Astros. The bench protested again, and Cooper immediately tossed out manager Brad Mills. Keppinger then hit a two-run homer, which Mills must have watched with glee from the clubhouse.
The Pirates tied the game in the fourth and took the lead in the sixth on a pair of RBIs by Alex Presley, who went 3-for-6 on the day. Andrew McCutchen's fantastic catch in shallow center in the seventh stymied an Astros rally. But Chris Johnson's double in the bottom of the eighth tied the game for the Astros, as Joel Hanrahan finally blew a save.
The Bucs went ahead in the 11th on a passed ball by Humberto Quintero, then added insurance runs on an RBI single by Presley and an error by Aneury Rodriguez. (There was a scary moment on that last play, as Andrew McCutchen ran into Lee, now leaping in the air while playing first - Lee is about twice McCutchen's size, but McCutchen was able to brace himself a bit and wasn't hurt.) Quintero hit a solo homer off Chris Resop in the bottom of the 11th, but that was all the Astros got.
Wandy Rodriguez got 11 strikeouts this afternoon, and the Astros' relievers added five. It wasn't a particularly good day for Pirates hitters in terms of swinging at pitches out of the zone - in fact, I can remember at least three occasions in which there was a throw down to first on a strikeout. But they got the job done when it mattered. Which is great, because they're about to enter a very tough run in their schedule and need every win they can get right now.
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....And Cutch > Lee
"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"
by Elektrostal_Kid on Jul 17, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously
is it time to stop talking about pulling Presley out of the lineup. Short of Beltran, I’m not convinced there’s an OF on the market I’d rather have. Obviously the guy could turn into a pumpkin, but he’s been hitting like this for, what, 2 full seasons now? And he pretty much didn’t miss a beat when he came up to the bigs.
agree
but it would be nice to see some long ball power from him. at this point he has more then earned his spot. to me its his to loose rather then someone else’s to win
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 17, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
it would be
but Presley hits a bunch of doubles anyway…
however, all this is probably moot, since if we get someone, it probably means end of the road for Overbay, and Jones moves to 1st
dont look now, but overbay's average and OPS has climbed the last 2 weeks while Jones is slowly going downhill
but with Pearce coming back, does the team actually go ahead with a pearce/jones platoon or do they give overbay more time because of his previous second half successes?
no idea
if the team has faith that Overbay can sustain it, then there’s really not much need for a trade…
i m not a big believer in Jones, either… too much pumpkin probability…
we all know what Jones can do, thats the dilemma
ive read that Overbay is a true 2nd half player, but baseball reference has his best month as being May. August is when his numbers usually drop, and thats only two weeks away.
On a separate note
I’ve got the Rox-Brewers game up, and A. Giambi is doing his best to help us win, and B. Giambi has a grey beard now. I can’t recall seeing any MLBers with grey beards.
if the bucs take
2-3 from the reds and figure out a way to do the same vs the cards we are in very good shape. big if’s on both parts.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 17, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions
That play with Lee and Cutch brought back memories of the time that Larry Bowa crashed into Pops on a play at 1B and knocked Stargell out of the lineup for 6 weeks or back in (I think) 1978. Very happy to see that neither Lee nor Cutch appeared to suffer any damage.
Of note for Indianapolis...
Pedro and Andy Marte have gone deep. 2-2 in the 5th.
BBTN
@karlravechespn John kruk puts on pirates uniform and makes demands on baseball tonight at 7et 3 minutes ago
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 17, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
krukie
sort of called for us to trade prospects, same with the other clones, carlos beltran’s name was dropped. FAIL
I don't understand the fear of trading prospects
I want to win now. There’s no guarantee we’ll repeat this success next year. Why not try and make a move when the division is tremendously winnable THIS YEAR?
because the prospects we would have to trade to make such a significant impact could be on the team for 6+ years and have an even bigger impact
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exactly
additions should be made using marginal prospects. we arent trading for jose reyes so lets not pay a team like we are
Of course not. Paying Reyes prices for Willingham would be stupid. Nobody is suggesting that. That said, I do agree that we should try and make a deal to improve this year’s team, even if that means trading prospects. If they get approximately fair value out of trading Marte, for example, I’m fully in favor of that.
It's the dilemma every GM faces.
I think it’s easier to keep building toward the future without mortgaging the present for Huntington because what’s another year without the playoffs at this point? Yea, this success is fun and winning the division would be awesome, but this team is probably a year away anyway, let’s not risk that.
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"We're going to Saint Croix."
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A few general thoughts...
A) Presley continues to impress me. He’s putting the ball in play, setting the table at the top of the order, coming up with clutch hits, and playing great defense/getting good reads on the ball. He’s been a perfect leadoff man so far, and I believe he’ll continue to do so.
B) There’s no reason for this team to trade for an OF. Obviously Cutch has CF locked down. Presley should play everyday and will be a solid major leaguer. RF can be held down by a combination of Jones/Diaz/Paul until Tabata is back, hopefully in a few weeks.
C) B Wood should be in the lineup more whether it be at SS until next weekend when Cedeno is slated to get back or 3B until Pedro figures things out in Indy, assuming he does at all. Wood’s power provides some “thump” to the bottom of the order + his defense is solid.
D) The biggest need for this team outside of a power corner IF bat is a reliable 8th in reliever. There has been some rumbles that the Bucs are looking for pricely this. Veras and his control problems are to the point where he can’t be trusted in high leverage situations. Names available: Mike Adams (SD), Tyler Clippard (WSH) and Brandon League (SEA).
E) A solid UT IF man could do this team good + be able to send d’Arnaud down for more seasoning. Jeff Keppinger/Jamey Carrol are two guys that could be had cheap and could back up/spot start at 3B/2B as well as emergency SS.
by NOLABUCCO on Jul 17, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm just gonna go with
“exactly” because my phone changes it haha
by NOLABUCCO on Jul 17, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hahaha
I’ve had more problems than I’d care to count trying to type things on my phone. I’ll give you a pass :)
I like what I've seen from Clippard...
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That Top Of The 11th
Felt like every Sunday afternoon decisive inning I’ve seen for the last ten years with the uniforms reversed.
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another concern is the really high strike outs this series
27k’s the last two games or something like that is just terrabad….idont remember how many times we went down on strikes in game one but the bucs need to change their approach at the plate. i dunno if its swinging at the first pitch or what but somethings gotta change in a hurry
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 17, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
I believe both Meyers + Wandy R
Set career highs in K’s. Pretty significant considering both guys didn’t go late into the game.
by NOLABUCCO on Jul 17, 2011 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we're actually middle of the pack in strikeouts and walks this year, btw
just wanted to pass that along
FUCKIN TULO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Swing at strike three over your head,thanks alot douche. Oh well 1/2 game out I will take it
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This isn’t much of an exaggeration. Lee looks about a burrito away from 280 to me.
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Agreed. I am concerned that the 4 hole for Cutch
Will have a negative impact over the course of the rest of the season. He looked extremely good hitting in the 3 spot. Walker is obviously not a cleanup guy either, so if we can acquire one I believe that could do wonders for both Cutch and Walker.
Speaking of changes, getting Ronny and Tabata back will be nice too. No more Chase batting 2nd.
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Grind out those series wins!
Now onto a crucial stretch. Lets get Pearce up, Pedro stroking, Cedeno, Doumit and Tabata back. Those are pretty good reinforcements. Who needs a deal?
by Horace Clarke on Jul 17, 2011 7:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If a piece is there at the right price, great.
If not, go with what we’ve got. Pedronyo me is the great wild-card. Man, he’d be huge.
by Horace Clarke on Jul 17, 2011 7:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Let's just chill out.....
…..and wait for the cavalry, which will be arriving directly.
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Im taking a lot from this series...
The team will be better when Ronny, Doumit, Pedro, Tabata and most importantly a healthy Meek make a return. I don’t believe they should trade for anyone if they all can be back in august. The talent is not out there. Overbay has looked good in this series. Wood looks like a great backup to Ronny and Pedro. I don’t see anything on the market the Pirates can get and not lose a very good prospect. I am all for improving this team and making a push but this team is pretty good player for player when healthy.
by Joey Mooney on Jul 17, 2011 7:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Some good news from the Brewers win today
Shawn Marcum, who has been their ace as Greinke had been a bum, left today’s game with what is being called a “strained neck.” Hopefully it’s something significant that will keep him out an extended period of time.
by NOLABUCCO on Jul 17, 2011 7:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
this is probably wrong, but...
i want to pirates to face the best players/pitchers that the Cardinals, the Reds, and the Brewers have, so if we beat them there will be absolutely no excuses on anyones part.
While I respect that
After 18 years, I’ll take any break we can get. Whether it be in game or rival teams’ players getting injured.
lol yeah, kruk saying the future is now, go use the prospects to get something…for ESPN guys, that means sale the farm…not what were about here
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cool
how many days/games does petey have left before his option is used up. was it 20 days or games?
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
It's 20 days...
so he’s used up 9 after today (optioned on the 9th).
ah ok, wonder how he will have progressed in another 10 days. hopefully he is ready to come back
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it’s 20 days but if he uses this option and stays in the minors until Sept he’ll automatically be granted one more next year per Tim at pirates prospects.
Yinzers uber alles
What is taking the cavalry so long to get here?
The Pirates remind me of Custer at the Little Big Horn… fighting off the enemy to the last man with ammunition running out. What I don’t understand is what is taking so long to get Pearce and Cedeno back? Cedeno is just starting rehab 15 days after going on 7 day DL. For cripe sakes, Pujols came back 15 days after fracturing his wrist, with no rehab. Dontrelle Willis is on the hill tomorrow, and we sure could use the Pearce RH bat in the lineup. Chase is struggling offensively; time for some AAA instruction. Hopefully, someone can explain why the club is dragging their collective feet on bringing up the replacements for the guys who have performed yes, but have reached their MLB-capable limit.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 17, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
They're not ready
and you run the risk of causing long-term damage? Lifelong, in case of concussion.
by Horace Clarke on Jul 17, 2011 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How is Pearce not ready?
See above…another HR today. I presume he’s been playing 1B and running the bases. How is playing in Pgh. any more risky than playing in Indy?
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 17, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he’s been at 3b actually, just give it a week, our series vs the RedBirds we’ll see some guys return
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Frustration
mostly comes from seeing Pujols come right back from a fracture with no rehab. Seems like the Cards have more a a sense of urgency.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 17, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the injuries are completely different...
I’d suspect the sense of urgency within the organization is the same.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
They're not ready
and you run the risk of causing long-term damage? Lifelong, in case of concussion.
by Horace Clarke on Jul 17, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would absolutely NEVER rush someone back from a concussion
I don’t care what anyone says, I don’t care where we are in the standings. You do NOT rush someone with concussion. End of discussion
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Agree with that, but
if a player is cleared to play at the MiL level, then the concussion must no longer a concern. Correct? You are not rushing someone back; if they are even working out it means post-concussion issues are no longer a risk. The issue is whether they are ready to play at a MLB level.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 17, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ronny only played a few innings of the Indy game.
That was a planned thing, so he’s not ready to play a whole game yet.
by MarkInDallas on Jul 18, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
on fat albert
it took three mri’s to find the “fracture” in his wrist. it was so minor its not a surprise hes back so soon
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 17, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Pearce...
may actually BE ready. He’s homered 3 times in the last 4 days in Indy. Although from Biertempfel’s tweets earlier in the day, it sounds like we shouldn’t expect Pearce or Cedeno until next weekend.
Hurdle said Pearce may be back by Friday.
the way he’s looking though I’d have him meet the team in Cinci tomorrow.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
I hope we kill the Reds
Their fans are obnoxious.
Well to be fair, the Reds were generally as bad as we were for quite some time until last year. If we do well this season you can be sure that other teams’ fans will be saying the same about us.
this is an interesting point. I think we were bad for so long that it will take a few years before people hate us like that. Especially in the American League where they don’t play us and think the NL is a joke anyway.
Yinzers uber alles
a perfect example of akshay's point....
red sox and phillies fans. youd think the baseball world revolves around them
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 17, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok I am confused...
Why has Pearce been playing everywhere? Are they that worried about Tabata? I don’t see the Pirates moving Overbay I think he could be a big reason the Pirates can win against the teams coming up. I will take some Pearce on third though!
by Joey Mooney on Jul 17, 2011 7:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Safe to assume...
once Pearce gets back…he will start EVERY game vs LHP. Just a question if it will be RF, 3B or 1B.
Weird with Pedro heating up...
If Pedro puts a big week together they will call him up. Pirates are in the race and sometimes you gotta risk and with Pedro he’s already on the team.
by Joey Mooney on Jul 17, 2011 7:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I got caught up with hearing 2 long balls
Im not convinced on Pedro, but he needs to start impacting this team sooner than later. I hope he can pull it all together and I believe he’s gonna be a second half hitter.
by Joey Mooney on Jul 17, 2011 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To me, he's key.
Can’t see it happening w/o Pedro contributing unless they get ARam or someone of that sort. You’re nit likely to get a bat like Pedros last Aug-Sept.
by Horace Clarke on Jul 17, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Our bench is so weak
Pitiful to watch our #1 PHer Paul nightly vs. LHers. Nice practice for him, but not productive. Even if Pedro doesn’t start, he has value off the bench.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 17, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think so...
Pedro has had decent defense but when he was playing everyday this year his batting average was low 200’s. He needs to play everyday to be effective I don’t want to see him pinch hit. XP should be gone when everyone comes back. Pearce has shown great ability as a pinch hitter.
by Joey Mooney on Jul 17, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This "He needs to play everyday to be effective"
theory is an unproven bunch of crap at this point of the season. If we are tied or down 1 to the Reds in the 9th inning to Cordero, I want Pedro up there. He either pokes it or he doesn’t. It doesn’t matter if he’s played the entire game, in fact maybe he has “more legs” at that point. He is a professional hitter for cripes sake.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 17, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
What? he strikes out A LOT!
He is not cutch…
by Joey Mooney on Jul 17, 2011 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Matchups: Alvarez vs. current Reds pitchers
7 for 27 with 2 HRs, 6 walks, 8 SOs. 1 for 1 vs. Cordero with an RBI.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 17, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, but sometimes that doesnt mean that he will be sucessful right NOW
if youre slumping, or your swing is off, a high school pitcher can make you look like an idiot.
he's turning into a regular Greg Vaughn
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 17, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean
Rick Vaughn (from Major League)? Greg Vaughn hit HRs.
he can be whichever he wants
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by WVPiratesfan on Jul 17, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He is my favorite guy in the minors!
by Joey Mooney on Jul 17, 2011 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good to see Stet doing well
His control has been better than I expected.
Any word on where he is velo wise?
sure hope he's in line
To start next Saturday….I plan on bein there
by BadAndy on Jul 17, 2011 8:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To be fair
I’d put that blown save on Veras, Hanrahan shouldn’t have needed to come in – he was probably only called due to yesterday’s effort.
This team's gotta quit striking out so freakin' much...
if we’re gonna keep pace with everybody else in the division offensively the second half of the year.
Fortunately, we played the Astros today and they gave us the game. But we’ve gotta start making better contact.
the good news is
they are middle of the pack ins trike outs league wide…but yeah like i said above 27 strike outs b/w 3 pitchers is just awful. chases performance didnt help those numbers today either
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 18, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah..
Once Ronny gets back, I think D’Arnaud goes back down. He’s gotta work on his plate discipline. He swings at any and everything.
I think he can be a good ML hitter, but got to be more selective. But that goes for a lot of guys on our team.
true
but his hustle/speed are amazing to watch.
if d’arnaud can become halfway decent with the stick, whew!
middle of the pack in both strikeouts and walks...
the only two things the pirates are “poor” at is slugging and K’s by the pitching staff.
almost everything else is average.

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