Pirates 3, Braves 1: James McDonald, Chris Resop Come Up Big As Bucs Keep Pace
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 26, 2011 12:41 AM EDT
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PrintThe Pirates kept pace with the Cardinals with a big 3-1 over the Braves. James McDonald got through 5.1 innings and was great, striking out nine, but he allowed two singles in the sixth, and then a catcher's interference call against Michael McKenry loaded the bases. (McKenry got hit in the hand with a bat, and McDonald was none too happy about his having to leave the game - I can't remember the last time I've seen so many mouthed F-words from the Pirates in so short a span.)
Chris Resop came on, however, and was awesome, getting a pop-up from Nate McLouth (who I was happy to see come up in that situation) and a strikeout by Alex Gonzalez to get out of it. (The McLouth popup was dramatic - the ball had all kinds of English on it, and McKenry had to do a ballet move to get to it.) The Braves scored in the eighth on a solo homer by Chipper Jones, but after Daniel McCutchen walked Freddie Freeman, the Bucs brought in Jose Veras, who struck out Brian McCann and got another popup from McLouth. Joel Hanrahan then breezed through the ninth.
Offensively, Pedro Alvarez walked and singled in his return. He also had an error, waved at strike three on a pitch in the dirt in his third plate appearance, and swung at ball four in his fourth, but hey - at least he was productive.
The Cardinals beat the Astros and the Brewers were off, so the Pirates and Cardinals are now tied atop the NL Central, with Milwaukee a half-game back.
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on pedro
i thought he did very well in his return save the error. he fought in each one of his ab’s forcing the pitcher to either throw a hittable pitch early (which he was taking for some reason) or a hitable pitch late that he guessed wrong on. again another big small ball win by the boys one more and gasp we’ve at minimum splt the series with the braves in atlanta at a minimum
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions
wouldn't it have been cool
to see Pedro get that second walk instead of a K? He looked a lot more comfortable at the plate, his hit was exactly what Huntington wanted out of him down in AAA; Hit a hard one-hopper up the middle.
Benny Benack III
by benny benack on Jul 26, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
He fouled off a couple pitches in that last at-bat, which I think was something they wanted him to work on too. Unfortunately, like I mentioned, he also swung at a pitch way out of the zone in that one.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 26, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah i tihnk he had it set in his head
that no matter what he was swinging
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that ball four swing was bad....
…but he was facing a breaking-ball throwing lefty. You usually just chalk up a K for Pedro in that situation and move on to the next guy.
Thought he did a pretty good job in that AB…I mean, all things considered.
Santa Roberto Clemente
Ora Pro Nobis
@ChristianTappe
no we just need some protection for pedro. would much rather see
wiggington or giambi over pena. but that’s for another thread
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
That "protection" thing
is kinda nonsense, isn’t it? I mean, why would Cutch or Walker hitting fourth ever see a pitch to hit then?
Dejan just tweeted that we made it the whole game w/o our first baseman touching the ball defensively. Though Fort did throw it on to him to complete the Lugo K in the 9th, there were actually 0 ground ball outs by Braves hitters tonight. Unbelievable.
I think that’s probably why this one never truly seemed in the bag until Hanrahan came out for the 9th. The Braves just kept getting 1 or 2 runners on and hitting fly balls, it seemed inevitable that eventually they’d start sending them out, and Jones did, then Uggla came dang close to tying it right after. Not as comfortable a win as I like, but I’m not going to complain about beating the 2nd-best team in the NL.
Eh...he certainly coulda knocked it down, but I doubt he woulda got the out.
Best he could have done was keep the runner at second.
Santa Roberto Clemente
Ora Pro Nobis
@ChristianTappe
maybe peaknuckle (sp?)
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
No, no ...
I believe that oldtimehockey was referring to the fact that Overbay’s primary skill appears to be peeing on his knuckles.
Also, it was McDonald’s first start this year without walking anyone.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 26, 2011 12:52 AM EDT reply actions
McDonald was dealing...
And the whole time, while half my mind was imagining him going 8 shutout innings, my other half was saying, hm I wonder when the wheels are going to fall off and he’s gonna come out of the game. He was absolutely pitching lights out and all of a sudden he doesn’t get out of the 6th?
In his defense, David Ross’ swing shouldn’t of been catcher interference! He swung SUPER late and basically hacked at the ball as it was in the catcher’s mitt. Is there ANY exception to that rule? What if a hitter is behind in the count and says, hm let me skoot back a bit and swing back and graze the catcher and I’ll get first base!
It was right of McDonald to be pissed at that.
Benny Benack III
The rules just say that Catcher’s interference is called when the catcher physically hinder’s the batter’s swing. I think that’s why Catchers generally stay far enough back so that the batter can’t intentionally back up to the back of the box and swing away at the glove. Just unfortunate luck for Fort tonight that he leaned forward a bit and Ross went for an awkward reverse chopping swing.
A mix up
It looked like Fort was expecting that ball on the other side of the plate, set up there and then had to reach back suddenly to try and save the ball. I think that was actually McDonald’s fault. McKenry looked great blocking all those pitches in the dirt and a nice caught stealing too. I haven’t seen yet, any word on his hand?
Peace
JP
He caught the rest of the game after the trainer looked at his hand, and didn’t appear to have any problems so it looks like we avoided anything serious. Most likely he might get tonight off just to rest it but he should be fine seeing as I can’t find any mention of his injury at all online, let alone whether he’s ok or not.
Overbay’s GIDP made me rip down my COD:MW3 poster. The rest of the Buccos game? I want to cry. I never see this team get to play. When I do? I love it. Get em Buccos!
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jul 26, 2011 12:52 AM EDT reply actions
It wasn’t even a real pull down or anything. Just slapped my door and it fell. I blame Overbay…that’s the first time I can ever say that. Trade for Pena….sorry, angus!
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jul 26, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
My expectations going into this 13 game stretch
Cincinnati: Minimum of 2 wins-Accomplished
St. Louis: Minimum of 1 win-Accomplished
Atlanta: Minimum of 2 wins-1 away
Philadelphia: Minimum of 1 win
So I was hoping for a minimum of 6 wins out of this 13 game stretch. Yeah, a 6-7 record isn’t glamorous, but for this team it is. If that happens, I would expect us to be what? At most 2 games out of first comes August 1st heading into a much easier stretch with San Diego and Chicago.
If we can pickup the win tomorrow and have Karstens be Karstens, we’ll be at five wins and shit… I’ll take that. Actually, if we can pickup the win tomorrow putting us at five, with another five games left… I would hope this team would be able to come out of this with a winning 7-6 record.
Sadly I wouldn’t be so sure of being just 2 games out if we win 2 of the next 6 games. The Cards and Brewers both play Houston and Chicago over the next week, so it’s pretty unlikely that we’ll still be w/in 2 games if we go 2-4 through the deadline. 3 is possible, but I don’t see 2; chances are low that either the Cards or Brewers(if not both) will lose more than 1 game this week.
I don't know about that
Assuming that both the Brewers and Cards go 5-1 and that any other outcome is low odds seems a bit much to me. Although the fact that both are at home will help.
I’d say, for either team, something like 45% odds of 5-1, 40% of 4-2, and then the other outcomes are about 5% each (0-6 being 0%).
Would’ve looked much worse if Pedro could’ve driven Cutch in, but he heard the boo-birds all the same from the crowd down there.
Oh yeah. It was already funny, from our perspective, that McCutchen was involved in that play. Like, “Ah yes. I like our new guy better.”
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 26, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I tried telling my dad that was a 4 for 1 trade. He didn’t accept it at first…now he has to ;-)
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jul 26, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
3 for 1....
So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.
by IAPiratesFan on Jul 26, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
no no, we got cutch to be a starter as well, hence 4 for 1 which is what i think he is trying to say here
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
Bingo. Locke, Morton, Gorkys, Cutch for McLouth…it’s a 4 for 1 trade even though it really is a 3 for 1 trade.
Trading McLouth meant the Bucs could bring up Cutch. We know how that turned out.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jul 26, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Except there was nothing stopping the Pirates...
keeping both Cutch McLouth in the OF together.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
Wasn’t there some rumor about McLouth not being willing to move off of CF?
Put on your dancin' shoes.
yeah but no one asked him to move so doesn't really mean much...
that’s not why he was traded.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
I was operating under the assumption that McLouth was asked to move and didn’t want to. I was wrong, it happens.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jul 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
no worries...
just wanted to clarify that it wasn’t “necessary” to trade McLouth to make room for Cutch, though I am glad they did.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
i dunno... that rumor was pretty rampant back in 09
i mean, you hear the richard gere gerbil story so many times that it must have some validity, no?
I wonder of the Braves' management
would rather have Gorkys back and in CF? I mean, I feel sorry for Nate and all, but he really has disappointed a bunch of people.
My heros have always been Steelers...
He Wants
The Bucs to keep winning — he knows his roots.
*monotone* He once had a place to play
know, he has, a place, to root.
Ugh
Offensively, Pedro Alvarez walked and singled in his return. He also had an error, waved at strike three on a pitch in the dirt in his third plate appearance, and swung at ball four in his fourth, but hey – at least he was productive.
Why don’t you point out every other starter that had a bad strikeout or swung at a pitch out of the zone? He’s played only 130 games in the Bigs, give the kid a break already. Jesus
They aren't pointed out because Pedro is a point of concern.
That much should be obvious.
Thus Spake Bluecheerathustra
by bluecheer on Jul 26, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
for crying out loud
You are aware that Pedro was demoted to the minors and was in his very first game back, right? How he did in every single at bat is big news right now.
Which hitter outside of Cutch and maybe Walker
isn’t a concern in this lineup?
If anyone deserves leeway
It’s the guy with less than 500AB, a monster HR swing and huge potential at a position(s) of need
the problem in the first place was his “monster HR swing”, he tries to pull everything and has a long swing, which is why he misses pitches and rolls over on everything. sometimes he needs to learn to shorten the swing and go the other way with the pitch, esp in 2 strike counts, when he does that, then he has finally learned
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
Once again
We are talking about a 24 year old with 130 games of experience and less than 500 AB IN HIS CAREER. Who also has been hurt for most of this season… we aren’t talking about a 30 year old veteran with a $100m contract here, he’s a ROOKIE. Cut him some slack.
im not coming after him with fire and pitchforks, im just stating his problems and how he needs to fix them. if a person that is watching from home can point out the issues, shouldnt that be something of a concern to get fixed. Also, im not saying he isnt working on these things, rather, that he still has some work to do, and that until he figures it out, the jury will still be out on him, simply because of who he is and what he means to the team
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
I agree 100%
He’s got a lot of holes in his games. Just not comfortable with people that are ready to sell him down the river for a warm 6 pack.
(Not saying you are, that’s just the feeling I get in general)
fair enough
i would also think that charlie has a lot more sense about himself than to sell alvarez already
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
Yeah, that wouldn’t be an accurate representation of my opinion in any way.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 26, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure.....but,
1.) I don’t think Charlie was being overly harsh….Pedro did some good things today…and some bad things. It’s a fact.
2.) Alvarez was the #2 overall pick a few years ago, and a guy we’re counting on to help push the Bucs to the next level. If Xavier Paul Ks badly, whatever, it’s Xavier Paul…but like it or not, Pedro’s gonna have a microscope on him.
Santa Roberto Clemente
Ora Pro Nobis
@ChristianTappe
"but hey – at least he was productive"
Just a bad use of sarcasm or smart ass-ness IMO
People are incredibly sensitive around here recently. It wasn’t intended to be sarcasm. He went 1-for-3 with a walk. That’s not bad.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 26, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If you're going to go with reasoning #2
Why no mention of Neil Walker looking baffled at the plate all game? Shouldn’t he be under a microscope as well? He’s a guy we’re counting on to push us to the next level isn’t he?
None of those guys just came off the DL.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 26, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you're being a bit overly-sensitive about this.
Pedro is a player who the Pirates have a lot of the future invested in, so he’s going to be analyzed more than your average player. Simple as that.
Thus Spake Bluecheerathustra
Negative negative negative
If you’re going to analyze him why not mention the 4 to 5 close pitches that he took that he would have whiffed on earlier in the season? Or when he ran his ass off and hustled on that tapper to first to almost beat it out? Not all analysis has to be negative unless you’re trying to throw a guy under the bus. That’s the vibe I get when I read those comments by Charlie
I suppose you'd have to ask Charlie.
My point is, that’s why he’s under the magnifying glass so much.
Thus Spake Bluecheerathustra
Well the point of my original post
wasn’t questioning why Pedro was singled out, it was why was he singled out in such a negative light? Hard for me to understand why there’s so much hatred toward the guy… Sure he started out slow and like I said earlier has a lot of holes in his games, but at this point I think it’s better to focus on the things he’s improving on, not the things he’s doing that every other guy in the lineup is doing as well… and calling him out on it
Except Pedro’s weakness are his strikeouts, and he needs to improve on those to up his game. So until he beats the strikeout monster, the Ks will always be brought up as a progress benchmark.
Or perhaps we just hate the guy.
Or perhaps you need to take a chill pill there fella.
Thank you Ned Colletti.
with the ab's he had today
i will gladly take the 1k (stat check?) again i thought his approach at the plate was solid although i woulda like to have seen what he could do on that up and in fast ball that wasnt all that far inside….that thing looked like it was on a table for him. i forget what inning it was but we were all like “i cant believe he just took that”
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree w his getting down the line.
Looked he was moving bettr in general all night. I thought he looked comfortable at plate all night, a few bad swings aside. He saw a lot of pitches, worked some counts (if didn’t always finish off). I view him as the first new addition to the lineup.
by Horace Clarke on Jul 26, 2011 7:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
overbay? ive pretty much chalked him up to being a black hole now, anything from him is basically a bonus
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
I'm sick of his GIDPs....
I know he only has 12, but it seems like he’s been doing that a lot lately.
So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.
by IAPiratesFan on Jul 26, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
actually Walker is slumping badly
I think he’s like 2 for his last 20. He looks kind of lost up there right now. I hope he shakes it off soon.
by ImmaculatePerception on Jul 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Couple bad games against good pitchers...
he was killing it before that. I hope you’re wrong because the Pirates can’t afford to have him cool off this week.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
this
its not like his last 20 ab’s have come against the cubs and stros
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So... Ronny in the 2-hole?
I would say right now, Ronny should at the very least, be in the 2-spot. Shit, even when AP comes back I would say our lineup should be
1. AP
2. Cedeno
3. Walker
4. Cutch
5. Pedro
6. Pearce/Overbay
7. Jones/Diaz
8. McKenry
Two things:
1. I would assume Doumit is about to be back real soon, if that is the case, move him to the 6-spot
2. This isn’t predicting any moves, and I would think we make at least one significant move offensively
Forgot
3. I subsequently vomited typing the name Overbay… adding Diaz didn’t help
That's ok Zach, I vomited after the 1972 NLCS after the wild pitch by Moose
let in the winning run
by SteelStealth on Jul 26, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would be want Ronny batting second? He has a .283 wOBA, which is about on par with Wood. Why would we want to give him more at bats?
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 26, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
is that sine he's come back
dude looked pretty darn good against stl
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Since he’s come back is far too small of a sample to make a judgement. There are many different studies on lineup optimization, but all of them suggest that at the very least, you want your better hitters to bat earlier so they get more opportunities. Cedeno is not one of our better hitters.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 26, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
in this lineup
where the crop consists of overbay,xp, diaz, and fort he actually is. so given the situation i would say hells yeah give him a try. forts bat has continued to improve but still cedeno is one of our top hitters at this time. now in a few weeks once doumit and hopefully ap or tab’s comes back then yeah its obvious. but right now not so much
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
In that lineup listed above, I would put him above only McKenry, and possibly Overbay, as McKenry is the only one he has outhit.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 26, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, and Pedro. But as with most, I feel Pedro will improve.
by thecheeseisblue on Jul 26, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Baseball is a streaky game
But this is basically a question with no right answer. With the RHP tomorrow I’d probably go Paul, Walker, Cutch, Jones, Pedro, Pearce, Ronny, Fort, but that’s just me. I wouldn’t be too opposed to putting Walker, Cutch or Ronny leadoff and adjusting from there.
Moving 3-5 up to 2-4
does seem more productive to me (disagree with Jones at cleanup, though). Best hitters get more at bats. 1-3 with plenty of speed. Walker has the bat control to be a good #2 hitter, as he proved when he slapped that pitchout to save Jones from being caught stealing.
by Central*Scrutinizer on Jul 26, 2011 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The McLouth popup was dramatic – the ball had all kinds of English on it, and McKenry had to do a ballet move to get to it.
That’s because it was All-Star Nate McLouth. That was an All-Star popup. Get it right.
You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.
McKenry reminded me of...
… Ed Ott on that one. EVERY pop-up looked like that with Ott.
(he caught just about every one, though)
He speaks highly of you, too.
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 26, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He really gave it everything he had
to keep JMac in the game. I admire a catcher who’s willing to give it up for his pitcher. How many WPs did he save? Four, maybe 5? Changed the whole complexion of the game.
My heros have always been Steelers...
At least 5...
I don’t think I’m exaggerating by saying I think the number is closer to ten. The guy was absolutely outstanding behind the plate and made another perfect throw in the first inning. I am really starting to appreciate catcher defense. I have a feeling if McDonald doesn’t trust the guy behind the plate he does try all those curveballs in the dirt and probably loses 3-4 strike outs as a result.
#AllTheBuntsAreBad!
Why make a big deal when Pedro strikes out?
Seeing him strike out two times was just like having Chase or wood in there. This team strikes out a lot. Now they in a position for xp to lead off who also gets the big K a lot. Pirates need to keep sending Pedro out there. I think he is the difference maker in Philly this weekend. All he has to do is get some air on it and watch the ball carry. Another note…. Fort is TOUGH. If that was doumit they would have had to pick up his fingers and need a mop and bucket from the bat hitting him. Don’t forget the ball on the jaw. Tough kid.
by Joey Mooney on Jul 26, 2011 7:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agree Sad but nearly all power hitters do. It comes with the territory and development IMO
Fielder- Every season over 100ks
Howard- Every season over 100ks
Rodriguez- Every season except 3 (99ks,97ks,98ks) all over 100ks
Dunn- Do i even need to mention
Joey Bats- Over 100ks last season this season hell be under
Bonds- even over 100ks his first season
Votto- over 100ks every season
Cabrera- Every full season except one(95ks) over 100ks – Who Im sure every pirate fan would love to see pedro become and could quite possibly.
Sure his numbers need to drop slightly and i would like to think getting some MLB experience wouldn’t hurt that too much would it?
On Pedro
I don’t think it has been touched on here specifically, but I’ve gotta think that Pedro K’s on the 3-2 pitch that he walked on in the 2nd if that had happened in April.
It was a low and outside pitch that tailed away from him and I feel like he made a living waving at that pitch ealy in the season. I know this is a bit dramatic, but with Nate’s help, that was a two run walk.
I saw a guy that can help now if can mantain his approach.
Woulld've liked to see the game
but for some reason ESPN gave our cable company the ESPNews feed when the game started.
Have I mentioned lately that I hate ESPN?
They likely assumed that
the NY-NJ crowd wouldn’t be interested.
My heros have always been Steelers...
I was wondering..
about the ESPN feed and how they handled the two hour rain delay. I assumed they just showed another game but apparently not.
they showed the New York cable Christmas Yule Log video to pass the time
Yinzers uber alles
by BostonBuc on Jul 26, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Got lots of games in WNY
Saw parts of the Cleveland game, the St. Louis game, the Mets game, Tigers game. Saw me a lot of baseball last night. I’m on Dish which may have somethng to do with it too.
Peace
JP
Strange. Dish originally just blocked ESPN from 7-10, so I watched the first hour on Root then switched over to ESPN at 10 just to see their coverage, and the game was on there for me(at least until Dish re-blocked ESPN till midnight, at which point I had to switch back to Root).
The coverage was pretty darn bad, though it’s not entirely their fault. National baseball announcers rarely know anything about either team, so they just get through the games on vague pseudo-facts and general knowledge. In this one, when McDonald had 2 guys on in the 3rd, they were confidently saying that the Braves had “figured him out,” only to have him get out of it and strike out some guys in the 4th, at which point they said Mcdonald looks “confident and in control.” Maybe it’s because I’m a big fan of national coverage of NFL games, for which the announcers study for days to make sure they know all about both teams(obviously impossible in a 162 game MLB season), but the ESPN coverage was really disappointing.
What do you expect?
The Pirates haven’t been on a national TV game in years, they probally didn’t even though who most of our guys were outside of Cutch, Neil and Hammer. I’d bet you $500 that those guys didn’t know a pitcher named James McDonald even existed until 24 hours before game time.
They now know who are guys are after yesturday.
by Bradley James McEachern on Jul 26, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I get the feeling
a lot of you guys watch ESPN just to confirm that the broadcasters will suck as much as you expect them to and so you can get all worked up in a lather. I really don’t understand why you would want to give yourself an ulcer.
You say
“masochism” like it’s a bad thing.
Having an ulcer is part and parcel of being a Pirates’ fan, innit?
Free your ass and your mind will follow.
by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 26, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
"masochism" like it’s a bad thing.
so says the married guy
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I went zen several years ago.
Decided that I wasn’t going to see another winning team in my lifetime. It took all the pressure off. I can enjoy the way things are going this year, but it won’t crush me if/when we finish 80-82, or backslide next year.
The beauty of low expectations.
When ESPN’s doing Yankees-Red Sox it’s not nearly so bad because both teams are well known around baseball and the announcers do more than just state the obvious. But when a surprise team like the Pirates comes on and they have no clue about any of the players, it’s a little frustrating to see that they apparently didn’t do any level of research to educate themselves about the team.
well they did get the glass catcher situation right
of course thats kinda well known, us having 7 different catchers. but i will give them props, they seem to have developed a man crush on the fort like the rest of pirates nation
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The current Sunday Night, Monday Night, whatever night baseball broadcasting teams are terrible all around. I miss Miller and Morgan.
this
it would been nice to hear real broadcasters calling the game. but i guess we will have to settle for joe buck once the playoffs hit
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
hehehe
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 26, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i miss Morgan too...
… then i backed the car up and tried to run him over again
by white angus on Jul 26, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hate
to nitpick, but I gotta
got through 5.1 innings and was great, striking out nine, but he allowed two singles in theeighthsixth,
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