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That Roster Crunch Is Coming ... In July

A lot has been written about the roster crunch the Pirates are going to face in December when a large group of prospects will be have to be protected on the team's 40-man roster or become subject to the Rule 5 draft. It is a new problem, and a good one, as it shows the increasing organizational depth the Pirates have developed during Neal Huntington's stewardship.

But the Pirates face a much more immediate roster crunch, and it is also one the team hasn't faced in years. During the second half of July as many as seven veteran major leaguers are going to come off the team's disabled lists and be ready to return to the 25-man roster. Some decisions will be easy. Some will be very difficult. How those decisions play out will go a long way in determining how long the Pirates stay in the playoff picture.

The First Arrivals

It is possible, even perhaps likely, that Ronny Cedeno, Pedro Alvarez, Jose Tabata and Joe Beimel will be ready to be activated July 15, the first day back from the All-Star break. The three position players made up 3/8 of the team's opening-day lineup, and Beimel is a veteran lefty who Clint Hurdle told me he is looking forward to having back. Let's look at each player and a possible corresponding move.

Ronny Cedeno (7-day DL July 2, concussion): This should be pretty straightforward. Cedeno is the team's starting shortstop. While his bat has been erratic, his glove has been excellent, and if others in the lineup continue to hit, the team can play Ronny even if he slumps. It is worth nothing that Cedeno hit .455/.511/.576 in the 11 games before he was hurt.

Corresponding Move: Option Pedro Ciriaco. Ciriaco doesn't get to play when he's up. He's filling a bench role in case of emergency. He won't be needed.

Pedro Alvarez (15-day DL retroactive to May 20, quadriceps strain): Again, a straightforward move. Various people have been calling for the Pirates to go out and trade for a "bat." Here it is. Alvarez didn't hit the first six weeks of the season, but he has far more upside than anyone available on the trade market and at no cost. He will be plugged back into the starting role at third base and play virtually every day the first few weeks in order to give him ample opportunity to get comfortable. If he performs like he did in September of last year this team's playoff chances go up dramatically.

Corresponding Move: Option Josh Harrison. Harrison is a utility guy who plays hard, but he doesn't project to be much more due to a lack of patience at the plate and a lack of power.

Jose Tabata (15-day DL retroactive to June 27, right hand contusion): Tabata probably needed the time on the DL for a variety of reasons--wrist and hand problems, leg problems. While he has struggled since mid-April, he will be plugged right back in as the starting left fielder. The more interesting question is where he hits in the lineup. My guess is he gets dropped to the No. 2 slot.

Corresponding Move: DFA Xavier Paul. This isn't an easy move, but it is the right one. Paul is a solid late-inning defensive replacement, but with Presley on the roster his skills are duplicated. He has a .663 OPS and has struck out 29 times in 109 at bats. There is a chance he will get through waivers, but the Pirates could certainly lose him.

Joe Beimel (15-day DL, May 28, left elbow soreness): I asked Hurdle about "handedness" in the bullpen and if there were any advantages or disadvantages to having three lefties in the pen. He said management would have a discussion, but he left no doubt that Beimel would be part of it by saying he was looking forward to having Beimel's "veteran experience."

Corresponding Move: Option Chris Leroux. This one is open to debate. If the team wants to have a mop-up guy on the roster, Leroux is the right guy for that role, and they could send down either Dan Moskos or Tony Watson, who started well, but have been a little shaky of late. It's just a question of carrying two or three lefties. The good thing here is all three pitchers can be optioned, so the team can mix and match as they move forward as needed.

The Second Wave

This group is harder to project because the updates have been less detailed in terms of rehab, so there is a good deal of speculation on my part.

Ryan Doumit (15-day DL, May 30, left ankle sprain/non-displaced fracture): The question here is just when will Doumit be ready. The initial target date was about two months and everything appears to generally be on schedule. Look for him to begin a rehab assignment around the end of the all-star break and, if all goes smoothly, join the team around August 1.

Corresponding Move: Option Eric Fryer. He gets to go back to Indy, play everyday and try to put himself in the mix for one of the jobs next year.

Steve Pearce (15-day DL, retroactive May 29, right calf strain): The classic reason you never ask a player to diagnose his own injury. When hurt, Pearce said he would be out for a day. Instead, for the second year in a row, he has missed a great opportunity to get significant playing time. Pearce's righthanded bat and ability to play first base will be a welcome addition back to the ball club. I expect him back around the first of August as well.

Corresponding Move: This one gets harder and will depend on performance over the next month. If Cedeno is settled in and playing well, I would expect the Pirates to option Chase d'Arnaud. Two reasons for this: first, d'Arnaud would benefit more from playing everyday in Indianapolis, and second, rosters expand September 1 and d'Arnaud will be recalled at that time. Certainly the team could DFA Brandon Wood, but for the occasional spot start and pinch-hit role, I'd rather keep Wood in the organization and move d'Arnaud.

Ross Ohlendorf (60-day DL, April 9, Right Shoulder strain): When Ohlendorf went down I suggested we may never see him pitch for the Pirates again. I still think that is possible, but he pitched a 45-pitch simulated game yesterday and may finally be making progress. I'm guessing Ohlendorf begins an official rehab assignment on August 1. A pitcher is allowed to rehab for 30 days. If Ohlendorf progresses and is needed he can be recalled earlier, otherwise he can be added to the roster when they expand September 1. I don't see him playing a significant role down the stretch. Brad Lincoln will be first in line to get any spot starts. If he comes back he will be a long man in the bullpen.

Corresponding Move: None needed.

Other Possibilities

Evan Meek: (15-DL, June 13, Right Shoulder tendenitis): Meek is a bit of a wildcard. He hasn't appeared health all year, but two months off may do the trick. I think he will be back with the club by September 1, but speculating on arm injuries from afar is pretty much guess work. Adding a healthy Meek to a bullpen of Hanrahan, Veras and Resop should make any Pirates fan smile.

Chris Snyder: (60-DL, June 9, Herniated Disc Lower Back): Anything the team gets from Snyder this season is gravy. Because he is a free agent after the year he does have a fair bit of incentive to get back and play before the season is over, but expecting him to do much more than join the expanded roster in September is probably unwise.

The Pirates will go into the all-star break on Sunday with 72 games remaining on the schedule. If they win one of their remaining four games they will have a winning record going into the break for the first time since 1992. If they win all four they will be eight games over .500 and stand a very good chance of being in first place in the National League Central.

44 different players have played for the Pirates this season, which makes the team's mid-season success even more remarkable. The team is likely to add seven players to the 25-man roster over the course of the next 30 days which should greatly improve its depth. Questions about playing time in right and left field, first and third base will likely shake out based on performance over the next couple weeks. A roster crunch in late July. An interesting problem for the Pirates to have and certainly one they haven't seen in many years.

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Nice Work

I think Watson will be sent back down to Indy at the All Star Break with Biemel being activated for the Houston series.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Leroux optioned back down to Indy with Crotta coming back up.

by NOLABUCCO on Jul 6, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I say we send Watson Down

and let Biemel go and get a Good Lefty Arm for the back of the pen. We got it down to an 8 Inning game with Hanrahan at closer. Time to strengthen are strongest area.

by bucsreport on Jul 6, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice analysis, DT.

 I agree with you about Ohlendorf – let him do his rehab and see where he is, but it may not be a good place.

I’d put Snyder in that same place. I don’t expect him to be effective with a chronic back problem, and McKendry provides excellent defense without being a ton worse offensively. After two or three years of miserable defense, the Bucs are showing how very important effective defense is to success. You can hide one or two good field-no hit guys in a lineup if the remaining guys can pick up the slack.

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Jul 6, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

its nice to not have to worry about the catchers D

by bucsreport on Jul 6, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice work, dtoddwin!

Charlie, can we get an app added to BucsDugout, so that every time dtoddwin makes a fanpost, it gets a ‘rec’ from me?

by gonfalon on Jul 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice options

Usually this time of the year, we are wondering who will be traded for a young prospect. Nice to have a different view. Thanks for the good work.

by Mybrotherskeeper on Jul 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

when ronny comes back

i think either d’arnaud or harrison goes down, with the remaining one filling in at 3rd until pedro returns. once he’s up there’s no regular playing time for that player anymore, so he goes down. this unfortunately means ciriaco sticks around deepening the grooves in the bench left by mike benjamin/ramon vazquez/luis rivas/etc, but i don’t see NH allowing prospects to sit on the bench.

by johnnycuff on Jul 6, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Please tell me that means that

Presley’s going to stay when Tabata comes back. He looks like a guy whose lights have come on (see Walker, Neal last year).

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Jul 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess is yes

presley is 26, has proven himself over a full year at AAA (which d’arnaud and harrison have not) and there’s nobody particularly in his way. d’arnaud has cedeno/walker and harrison has alvarez in front of him. presley only has paul ahead of him for a spot on the roster (i agree with dtodd’s guess that he gets DFA) and jones/diaz ahead of him for playing time. jones can take some time from overbay at 1st and diaz can spell presley against LHP.

there’s an alternate path where the team DFAs brandon wood instead of d’arnaud but i don’t see it as likely and i don’t think dtoddwin does either.

by johnnycuff on Jul 6, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

as an alternative for ciriaco

i could certainly see us making a move for a veteran infielder like jamey carroll or jeff keppinger. neither would cost us much.

by johnnycuff on Jul 6, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

So after the first wave

Who’s starting in right and st first?

by Horace Clarke on Jul 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Great job

As for who plays RF and 1B…I think you will see Tabata, Jones and Overbay all get used with Jones and Tabata sitting once or twice a week and Overbay playing those 3 games. It may also depend on who has a hot bat. It’s a nice problem to have.

by Brakeman8 on Jul 6, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I would think so…

by Brakeman8 on Jul 6, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could be wrong

but I think Tabata’s arm is stronger than Presley’s. It might make sense to have Tabata play in right and keep Presley (assuming he’s hitting well enough to get the PT) in left.

by KentuckyPirate on Jul 6, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I generally fall...

along this line of thinking.


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by David Todd on Jul 6, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the san adreas fault does not approve of this comment. shakey? these guys are unstable

they could send down either Dan Moskos or Tony Watson, who started well, but have been a little shaky of late.

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

quote fail :/

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Use

that preview function.

Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 6, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

no thats dumb

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 6, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, fortunately

the roster crunch right now doesn’t seem to be too hard…

by BurgherKing on Jul 6, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

AP needs to stay in LF

and Platoon Tabata and Jones in RF

by bucsreport on Jul 6, 2011 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't think

you platoon either Tabata or Pedro. If Presley continues to perform you find ABs, but not in front of Tabata, who’s 4(?) years younger, more established and more likely to be an everyday longterm piece. To me, issue is how to sort out Overbay, Jones, Diaz with Presley.

by Horace Clarke on Jul 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Presley hits well against both lefties and righties.

Tabata has hit much better against lefties and Jones is better against righties, of course.

by MarkInDallas on Jul 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of couse were not sure how Presley will
hit in majors. Book is open on Tabata, but who is it more important to find out about? Nice to have tough decisions. Especially good that med-tier prospects are causing tough decisions. Need some top-tier guys to pan out, but organization also needs dome production from guys across the prospect spectrum.

by Horace Clarke on Jul 6, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

id be intrested to know

the total games lost to injury and where the bucs as a team sit on that list..really good piece, enlightening to say the least.

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 6, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Tabata

Is better defensively than Presley and it makes more sense to keep him in left and move Presley to right.

I would leave Tabata in the 1 hole and hit Presley 2 with McCutchen 3. That gives you right, lefty, righty

by dunkuntou on Jul 6, 2011 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

also...

Tabata has a slash line of .292/.379/.383 (166 pa) in the leadoff spot and a slash line of .237/.327/.330 (111 pa) in the two hole.

Although it might not mean much because it was reversed last year…

by dunkuntou on Jul 6, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tabata

He needs to be moved down in the lineup…. This offense is looking way better without him, Alverez, and Cedeno.

Tabata needs to be batting behind Walker or Overbay when he comes back

by PiratesFanSince1980 on Jul 6, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

not totally fair

its only been about a week without Tabata and Alvarez (as pointed out here) did just as much as anyone who replaced him at third. As far as Cedeno, you shouldn’t expect anything with his bat but with his glove he has played his way into the lineup every day. He is worth more on defense than any realastic replacement would with the bat

by dunkuntou on Jul 6, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cedeno

The Pirates are a small ball team.
Defense trumps offense in this case.
Cedeno is VALUABLE.

by pittsburghdad6 on Jul 8, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tabata perfectly fits in the leadoff spot, he walks a lot, 351.OBP, MLB top 50

offense is not only batting average.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Jul 7, 2011 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Very young lefty with his WHIP and K:BB ratio? It had better be good, and for several years.

by Horace Clarke on Jul 6, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

can you summarize this specifically?

I have never heard of TIOPS as a source that is reliable in any way

by BurgherKing on Jul 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

the few things i’ve heard from them have turned out to be wildly false

by johnnycuff on Jul 6, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Insider on Pittsburgh Sports

The guy that runs it is move hockey based guy. But I’ll honestly say im skeptical of a lot of rumors and site i visit, but he is pretty good and doesn’t make things up on the whim.

by BigB2323 on Jul 6, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’ve never seen him report accurately on much of anything…he’s like a Pittsburgh specific Eklund, IMO

by Superstar25 on Jul 7, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perrotto

writes for him lol soooo take it for what its worth. But I’ll give it to them that they just dont make shit up.

by BigB2323 on Jul 6, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't see Overbay on this team in September

There is no room for a poor hitting, poor defense, 1B only player. Jones/Pearce or a callup of Matt Hague seem like far better options to me. A trade is another option.

I also agree you send down Chase over DFA’ing Wood, for now. Wood has 2 HR in his last 3 starts and provides solid defense at multiple positions. Unless he falls off a cliff, you let Chase get full-time work in AAA. But this decision can turn quickly.

I see no reason whatsoever that Watson should be sent down before Moskos. The Beimel decision seems quite easy to me.

Everything else I agree with. Nice summary.

by Mr. E on Jul 6, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ohlendorf is on the 60 day DL so he needs a spot on the 40 man roster

Even if they wait until Sept 1 to activate Ohlendorf, room has to be made on the 40 man roster (assuming it’s filled at that time).

After Tabata returns, I’d like to see Presley stay in the lineup at Overbay’s expense. Let Jones and Pearce platoon at 1b with Presley in lf (LH thrower) and Tabata in rf.

Bat Tabata leadoff, Presley 2nd. Presley has hit a lot of grounders on the right side – with the 1b man holding a runner, that’s even more chance for a base hit.

lf Tabata
rf Presley
cf McCutchen
2b Walker
3b Alvarez
1b Jones
c Doumit
ss d’Arnaud

by Brian Cartwright on Jul 6, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

you need to start dropping Walker in this lineup

i see no one is noticing that his OPS has nearly fallen into the 600s, and Overbay is actually creeping up on him

by white angus on Jul 7, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We still aren’t at the point where creating a hole on the 40 man roster is a problem for this season. Now, in November that might be a different story. If Ohlendorf doesn’t go on official rehab till August 2nd, no roster squeeze with him.

I assume you are fine with ditching Cedeno, then? And I agree with Angus that if Walker doesn’t start hitting a little more regularly, he needs to be dropped in the order. I’d be batting him 6th or 7th until the average comes up. I do wonder how long his back has been actually bothering him. One could argue that something has been going on since late May. On May 20th, Walker’s numbers were .288/.361/.466, similar to his 2010 numbers. Since then, .226/.283/.297.

by Thunder on Jul 7, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

HIs numbers are bad....

since April 19, but I’ve written enough about that.

His back isn’t a problem. That was an easy way for Clint to give him a rest with out calling too much attention to it. Fact of the matter is he hasn’t hit at all from the right side.

The reality is, based on his professional career, his numbers from last year may be the ones that are out of line.


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by David Todd on Jul 7, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately, I have to agree

maybe Walker would be best in #6 or #7…his current full-season (in-season) projection is 260/315/427, over a full season 36 doubles, 18 hr’s

1 rf Tabata
2 lf Presley
3 cf McCutchen
4 3b Alvarez
5 c Doumit
6 1b Jones
7 2b Walker
8 ss d’Arnaud

  1. should be a better hitter than Doumit, but it puts a switch hitter in between the lefties Alvarez and Jones, and puts a decent .330 ob in front of Jones’ power

tons of speed at the top…maybe can even put d’Arnaud #2 and slide everyone else done a spot

by Brian Cartwright on Jul 7, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

in the original comment, I did say Tabata in rf

but my fingers forgot while I was typing the lineup

and that should have also said “5 should be a better hitter than Doumit”

alternate
1 rf Tabata
2 ss d’Arnaud
3 lf Presley
4 cf McCutchen
5 3b Alvarez
6 2b Walker
7 1b Jones
8 c Doumit

by Brian Cartwright on Jul 7, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

David...

it is possible that Walker’s 2010 numbers are the ones out of line. However, if that IS the case…and the last 6 weeks are more representative, then the Pirates better be looking real hard at acquiring a starting 2B. Because a sub .600 OPS is Iwamura-like.

I could live with the .260 BA and .740 OPS from Walker at 2B like Brian mentions. I can’t explain how a .809 OPS vs LHP in 2010 goes to a .580 in 2011, other than an 83 point drop in BABIP (.333 to .250) vs LHP this season. His numbers vs RHP have only dropped about 30-40 points. I’d expect to see some recovery from that.

Gut feeling…Walker’s not quite as good as his numbers from last year…and not nearly as bad as what we’ve seen the last 6 weeks.

by Thunder on Jul 7, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

small sample size
I can’t explain how a .809 OPS vs LHP in 2010 goes to a .580 in 2011

in 2010, Walker had 123 PA vs LHP, with 33 hits. This year he’s had 68 PA, 13 hits in 62 AB. I’m sure you can find 62 AB for anyone where they barely hit .200. Bryce Harper even went 5 for 34 over a 10 game stretch a weke or so ago (and then got promoted to Double-A).

But don’t forget the minor league numbers. In 2010, while Walker put up good numbers v LHP while in Pittsburgh, he was only 7 for 46 with Indy. That brings 2010 a lot more in line with this year, even if this year is still a small sample.

Here’s Walker’s yearly totals, regardless of levels. Compare vs RHP to vs LHP in each season. In only one year, 2007, did he hit lefties reasonably well.

            VS RHP                VS LHP
year   PA   BA/  OB/  SA |  PA   BA/  OB/  SA   
2005  399 .321 .346 .471 | 137 .236 .272 .362 
2006  269 .286 .328 .449 | 108 .242 .296 .293
2007  491 .269 .329 .410 | 229 .289 .359 .471
2008  394 .239 .279 .408 | 152 .255 .283 .440
2009  410 .272 .324 .486 | 189 .218 .287 .365
2010  483 .322 .368 .520 | 175 .253 .310 .411
2011  182 .284 .357 .482 |  68 .210 .254 .274

by Brian Cartwright on Jul 7, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured that you’d be the one person that would have the minor league numbers at hand. His slugging numbers vs LHP have been all over the map during his career. If his numbers(BA/OBP) vs LHP go up about 30 points from his 1st half levels…I’d say that would probably be within reason to expect.

by Thunder on Jul 7, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for...

posting that Brian. Good stuff.


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by David Todd on Jul 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe its not Walker's bat... maybe hes just not a great hitter...

for the most part, his minor league career was “meh”… his current MLB numbers are really starting to look like this as well.

its not that hes playing badly, its just maybe we should expect “not so much”.

by white angus on Jul 7, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

overall. However, the last 6 weeks, other than driving in runs, he’s been anemic offensively. He’s had 3 extra base hits in the last month. Been signs the last 4 or 5 games that he’s snapping out of it. We can only hope.

by Thunder on Jul 7, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great summary...

Tamara stays in left and leads off. Presley will be in right and bat second. Old rule of thumb, having a lefty following a base stealer—-
A) opens the right side of infield up
B) blocks catchers view of runner on first

by Krid on Jul 6, 2011 7:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i agree with your top of the lineup, but move Tabata to RF...

not only does he want to play RF like his idol, but it will save some wear and tear on his legs when playing at PNC

by white angus on Jul 7, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it too late to note that Tabata's injury

is not a hand, but a leg?

Or am I missing something here?

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 7, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, I believe he had both injured, but the leg put him on the DL. I vaguely recall him being hit by a pitch or something like running into a wall within a week or two before the quad. But my memory isn’t what it used to be. He didn’t miss any significant time for the hand. I don’t have the patience to wade through game threads…and I don’t see any obvious mentions in fan posts or fan shots.

by Thunder on Jul 7, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes....

the hip, leg thing did put him on the DL, but the Pirates listed it like this in the transactions, so I went with their report on PIrates.com


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by David Todd on Jul 8, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

When Tabata was DL'ed, the article said quad

but the same day, the transactions entry said hand contusion.

Pittsburgh Pirates placed LF Jose Tabata on the 15-Day disabled list retroactive to June 27, 2011. Right hand contusion.

I watched it on TV, there was no hand injury running past 1b. But below was…

Philadelphia Phillies placed RHP Ryan Madson on the 15-Day disabled list retroactive to June 19, 2011. right hand contusion

so at the time I thought someone at mlb might have made a typo entering the data

by Brian Cartwright on Jul 8, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to say that it occurred...

during the Houston series in mid June…because I vaguely remember seeing it, and thinking he might be hurt. And the only games that could have occurred in the time shortly before the quad injury that I was able to watch were the first 2 games of that series (June 14th or 15th), because the 3rd game wasn’t carried down here by FS Southwest. Again, it wasn’t bad enough for him to miss time, but I thought I saw a reference or two, just can’t remember if it was the PG or Trib-Review.

Like I said previously, I could be wrong.

by Thunder on Jul 8, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

DIAZ

Here is the roster move:
Diaz may have the BA but his hits are meaningless. On the team he is 7th in number of AT BATs. But he is 10th in RBIs, 11th in walks, 11th in runs, has NO homeruns, AND he is 4th in grounding into double plays! PLUS he has no arm, is an average fielder and has average speed at best. Watch him at bat. NO energy. Leans back before every pitch and swings with his arms. Results: pop ups and ground balls. His only triple was a pop fly that bounced over the Toronto fielder on the hard turf. He is a waste, no threat whatsoever at the plate. He cannot compare to Paul or Jones for what they bring to the table, at bat and in the field. DUMP HIM NOW

by pittsburghdad6 on Jul 8, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

How many times

can you post this?

Jeebus.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Jul 9, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hits are meaningless

They mean that you get a guy on first base, and that anyone already on base moves up.

Those are good things.

Watch him at bat. NO energy.

Nobody looks more passive at the plate than J.D. Drew, but that didn’t keep him from putting a kajillion runs on the board for the Red Sox over the last few years.

Aesthetics are nice, but runs are more important.

by Vlad on Jul 13, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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A cheerful look at our offseason additions
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Pedro's Defensive Contributions
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A couple guys that could help the Buccos offense
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The Pirates Pitchers Have Adopted Their Own Sign: The FU!

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