Pirates' Comeback Bid Fails, Reds Win 11-8
It's pretty frustrating that the Pirates came from behind to tie this one but still lost. The Reds had a 7-4 lead in the middle of the seventh, but Brandon Wood had a two-run single in the bottom of the inning to make it 7-6, and after the Reds scored a run in the top of the eighth, the Pirates got to Nick Masset immediately, scoring on a double by Garrett Jones and a single by Andrew McCutchen.
After that, though, the Bucs brought in Joel Hanrahan at the top of the ninth, as he should, and Hanrahan allowed a walk, and then a one-out single. Then there was an error-fest by Ryan Doumit, and a two-run single by Ryan Hanigan, and that was it - the Bucs went down in order against Francisco Cordero in the bottom of the inning, and the Pirates lost, 11-8.
Kevin Correia allowed three home runs in his start, continuing his Acela-speed trip to Replacementlevelville, but at least the Pirates got some offense, as six players had two hits each.
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Incredibly frustrating game
I was amazed that the Pirates actually fought back into this one after going down 6-2. I was in the stadium, so I didn’t get to look at any replays, but that play at 1st in the 8th inning looked like an absurd blown call by the ump. It didn’t even look close to me. Either I missed something or that was a total gift leading to their 8th run. Of course the Pirates still should have taken the lead in the bottom half, but completely blew it twice.
He was out.
No question about that as I got back to my hotel room and saw it on the post game show.
Hell, I thought there was no question about it from section 315….
So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.
by IAPiratesFan on Aug 20, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Please note the awful decision to send the runner from third with nobody out and Doumit coming up in that eighth inning. Since he would have scored in short order and given the Pirates the lead. Not to mention the call to send McCutchen on a shallow fly ball in the same inning. And the awful call leading to their run in the eighth.
by thecheeseisblue on Aug 20, 2011 1:19 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah. I was in a restaurant for a lot of it and was sort of watching out of the corner of my eye. I saw the McCutchen play and wondered what in the world happened.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 20, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I fully agree on the call to send GJ, it was a bobbled single and there was really no reason to send him seeing as he would’ve scored soon after anyway. However I don’t agree on the McCutchen play; he’s the fastest guy on our team and barring a perfect throw he scores on any relatively deep fly ball. Unfortunately that’s exactly what Drew Stubbs uncorked with a perfect one-bounce throw to Hanigan to get Cutch.
tough loss
plenty of mistakes to go around. and boy was i glad i was not in thread when phillips hit that homer, the statements made were incredibly infuriating and frustrating, and yes elduce the call at 1st was THAT bad.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Aug 20, 2011 1:20 AM EDT reply actions
My personal opinion on it:
I have to say it’s the most frustrating game I’ve ever been to. I remember thinking the Reds had it won when they went up 6-2. To see the Pirates fight back and make it a 6-4 game was good. However, seeing the team screwing up and seeing the umpire make one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen (it’s really amazing that I was sitting up near the press box could see the play better than the first base umpire). I got up and went to the lower level. I was walking around the lower level while the Pirates tied it up. I though with how they were doing, they were gonna win. But the umpires and Garrett Jones not staying at 3B and Hanrahan having a terrible outing was too much for the Pirates to overcome…..
So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.
Also...
Kevin Correia throwing to third on the bunt instead of 1st. If he gets that out and the umpire makes the correct call later in the game, the Pirates might have won the game.
So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.
Hurdle...
brought Hanrahan in from the clubhouse. He wasn’t in the dugout after getting tossed in the 5th.
how the staff has fallen
the rotation has had some rough spots, like tonight. But man the bullpen has been awful, Biemel needs to go ASAP. i am still unimpressed by Lincoln, perhaps he should take Maholm’s spot in the rotation while he is on the DL, because this relief thing aint working out.
well atleast the offense looks good. its good to have tabata back. and to know he will be around at a great price for years.
A few blunders here and there
We gave 3 outs at the plate, including when Leyva sent Jones from 3rd on a liner by McCutchen to left field. He was out by 30 feet.
But Walker deserves a part of the blame because, in the 9th, there’s no reason to play the runner at home while a double play gets you out of the inning. That was poorly thought AND poorly executed.
The Jones out was just poor judgement by Leyva, he thought the bobble by the left fielder got further away and figured Jones would have a shot. However sending McCutchen on the shallow fly was the right call; he would’ve scored on anything other than a perfect throw on that, which, unfortunately, was exactly what Drew Stubbs threw.
I agree sending McCutchen on the sac fly was the right decision : fast runner, medium depth flyball, bottom of the lineup coming late in a tie game …
But sending Jones was very Russell-like. A liner right at the fielder, where both runners had to freeze to be sure the ball wouldn’t be caught. Jones had to run almost all the way from 2nd to home while the Reds OF had just to pick the ball up and throw. Everyone in the stadium with a little baseball experience knew he would be out by a mile and a half.
34.8%
That’s Correia’s HR/FB for the month of August. Highest in any other month is 12.9%, but he’s now at 12.6% for the year.
I have to think that this is fatigue crossed with a bit of bad luck, although I know that his HR numbers at Petco were disproportionate at well. But the bottom line is that the guy, like most MLB pitchers, has a career HR/FB of 10.6% – this isn’t a skill-driven issue. His Ks are down, his BBs are up, and he’s getting hammered. If Paulie hadn’t just gone down, I’d say it’s time for him to skip a start.
When a pitcher throws meatball like Correia threw to Phillips and Hanigan, they’ll finish in the stands. Bad luck regarding his HR/FB rate has very little to do with this.
Yup.
But Correia’s problem isn’t actually the same as Morton’s. Morton, by his own admission, was responding to runners on base by trying to throw FBs past people. Phillips’ HR was off a curveball that had no drop, and just a moderate lateral movement (it was also not awful location – down and in; the Hanigan HR was a belt-high FB down the middle).
Anyway, I stand by the position that pitchers with bad stuff and/or bad approaches will see abnormal HR/FBs; I’m just wondering what happened to Correia that his stuff was good enough for league-average or better HR/FB for 3 months, and is now 3.5X worse than normal.
IIRC
His HR/FB was better away from Petco. Maybe the guy just prefers pitching on the road.
And actually, the numbers back that up. For his career, his HR/FB at home is 11.7, on the road it’s 9.5. By contrast, his righty/lefty numbers are identical (10.6%). This is a guy with 447 home IP and 448 road IP. It’s just weird.
There's more
So I noted above that he’s pitched exactly 1 more road inning; but his pitch total is 116 lower on the road. He’s been that much less efficient at home. His ERA splits are 4.97/4.24, and the FIP/xFIP roughly agree.
And all this pitching with 2 neutral and one pitcher-favorable home park.
So what's going on with Hanny?
I guess the defense let him down last night, and also the previous hold he failed on. But it seems like he’s been awful… mortal of late, no?
Checking his splits, FIP and xFIP don’t see a big change. His K/BB has dropped dramatically, but that’s coming from a rise in BB, not a drop in K. His LOB% is 60%, which is really what’s killing him. But for the year, it’s 81%, so he’s on track overall.
I guess, as with all of our other pitchers, regression has come at last, and it’s killing us.
The blown save against the Cards was only barely his fault
I mean, the double was legit but it was a chopper right down the line, impossible to defend, and fair by millimeters. Kind of a freak hit.
Nothing much he could do against the bunt.
Then he gets Albert to fly out, which generally is a good outcome, just sucks that they’d already gotten the guy to third.
It was obviously a legitimate blown save, but nothing there really represents a problem with Joel. Dude is occasionally going to give him some hits.
Im not allowed to say those words on this site any more...
…but you couldn’t be more right with your last sentence. Only the naive (not you, just saying in general) thought that this would last forever.
Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained
by Kosstic518 on Aug 20, 2011 3:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He looks the same to me. Last night was due to fielding mistakes.
by Adam Reynolds on Aug 20, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

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