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THE BEST NIGHT EVAR!!!

Dear Mom and Dad,

Thanx so much for driving me to the PIRATES game 2nite to hang out with my friends! It was awesome!!!! It seemed like every time I stopped eating Dippin' Dots or pulling bubblegum off my face there was something exciting going on, whether that was a perfectly-placed hit for a single off Paul Maholm, or another perfectly-placed hit for a single off Paul Maholm, or some guy named Cory Luebke striking somebody out, or the same guy named Cory Luebke striking someone else out. I got to see a guy with a .135 batting average hit a grand slam, Ronny Cedeno double-clutching a routine ground ball to allow a totally unnecessary run to score, Ronny Cedeno looking like my 70-year-old pre-algebra teacher while fielding a ground ball, Pedro Alvarez getting into an 0-and-2 count and then waving at a breaking ball in the dirt, Xavier Paul warming up in the bullpen, and the Pirates' hitters racking up 11 strikeouts without ever walking! The score was 13-2, but there was even more excitement than that. It ruled!

And then the best rock band since CREED played!!!! They were amazing! I really loved lyrics like "My feet have been on the floor, flat like an idle singer / Remember Winger? But I digress, I confess you are the best thing in my life." I love when a rock band says something for no reason and then TELLS YOU they are saying something for no reason! Or how about "Hey soul sister, ain't that Mr. Mister on the radio, stereo / The way you move ain't fair, you know." I've never heard Winger or Mr. Mister, but I bet they were both AWESOME!!!! And I loved the way Train mentioned them in ways that were totally pointless! Actually doing something decent is just stupid when you can just mention an '80s band instead! It's like when Ronny Cedeno was in the dugout after he made the errors, and Clint Hurdle was talking to him! Hurdle was probably all like, 'You looked like Brian Bixler on 4 Loko out there,' and Cedeno was all like, 'WHITESNAKE! DOKKEN! NIGHT RANGER!' 

Anyway, K thanx bye! Luv you!!!!

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did they actually put pedro in?

if your going to sit him, sit him don’t go half way, and certainly don’t bring him in on the wrong end of a completely lopsided game.

best write up evah!

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Aug 6, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yer killin' me

Laughed until I cried. The mssus and I went out for a lovely dinner at Bistro Lepic in Georgetown. Got home in time to see Jones go yard in a cameo appearance, and wondered since he’s so hot might it not be a good idea to start him tomorrow. As in on the mound.

Any way, I read that Matt Diaz called a team meeting after the game. As it happens, I have a transcript:

(Players shuffle into the room)

Beimel: “Matty, why the hell are you calling this meeting? You can’t hit, field or pitch.”

Diaz: “While that is as may be, Joe, I was the first to come up with the idea, and so here we are.”

Cedeno: "Since we are here, what should we talk about?’

Maholm (sneering): “Since we’re here, let’s discuss your missing brain.”

Overbay’s ghost: “Come on guys, let’s not get pissy.”

Everybody: “Get the &@$? Out of here. This is a players only meeting.”

Ludwick: “How did I end up here again?”

Lee: “Just shut the hell up, Big Head Todd. We had this discussion already.”

Alvarez: “I think the pitching needs to improve.”

Karstens (sneering): “Where the &@$) do I begin to respond to that…”

Alvarez: "Just sayin’, you know (slinks away)

Paul: “I was ready to pitch tonight.”

Beimel: “Who gives a &@$)?”

Jones: “Hey, I hit a pinch hit homer to make it 13-2!”

Everybody: “Who gives a )$(@?”

Jones: "Geez, what a pissy bunch…(joins Alvarez and Cedeno in the corner)

Diaz: “Back to the purpose of this meeting. And that is that there is a bright side here.”

Correia: “Can’t wait…do tell.”

Diaz: “Well, this lame ass band they have out here sucks even worse than we do.”

Everybody: “He’s right..let’s go out there and kick ass tomorrow!”

Players file out, as Diaz stays behind looking suddenly glum.

Correia: “Why so bummed, Matty? Everybody’s hazard thanks to this meeting.”

Diaz: “it just occurred to me that you’re pitching tomorrow.”

"Throw strikes, but don't give him anything good to hit."

by RichieHebner on Aug 7, 2011 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damned auto correct

Correia says in the next to last line, “Everybody’s jazzed,,,”

"Throw strikes, but don't give him anything good to hit."

by RichieHebner on Aug 7, 2011 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

So which was the bigger….train wreck tonight?

:ducks:

by matskralc on Aug 6, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

oh i think that woulda been the grand salamie

given up by resop. this team needs two things, a day off and to get out of pnc park

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Aug 6, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit, Charlie. Stop making me see the redeeming factor in having to suffer through tonight’s game and the (ongoing) Train wreck.

by Kidspud on Aug 6, 2011 10:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

WHAT IS GOING ON?

i wake up and turn on the game at 9:32, 9:32 and 24 seconds i turn it off.
wow i am at a loss for words. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???

…Whats a “TRAIN?”

by bbautista24 on Aug 6, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s a big engine with lots of passengers, but that’s not important right now.

by matskralc on Aug 6, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So, do you like movies about gladiators,Billy?

by chodan11 on Aug 6, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I speak jive...

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue

Yinzers uber alles

by BostonBuc on Aug 7, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe a train is an old, old wooden ship…

by thecheeseisblue on Aug 6, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

for making me remember the face he makes after that idea gets shot down

by Mr. E on Aug 7, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

some deep thoughts after a rough week

in challenging times like these, words of wisdom can help guide and inspire us… for instance, this bit of knowledge from acclaimed sages, wilson phillips…

I know this pain
Why do lock yourself up in these chains?
No one can change your life except for you
Don’t ever let anyone step all over you
Just open your heart and your mind
Is it really fair to feel this way inside?

Some day somebody’s gonna make you want to
Turn around and say goodbye
Until then baby are you going to let them
Hold you down and make you cry
Don’t you know?
Don’t you know things can change
Things’ll go your way
If you hold on for one more day
Can you hold on for one more day
Things’ll go your way
Hold on for one more day

by Captain Easychord on Aug 6, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

But they could provide wisdom from a variety of perspectives...

…as the follow-up to “Hold On” was…“Release Me.”

I know that it’s time for a change
Mmm but when that change comes
Will it still feel the same?
How many times have I tried
To turn this love around?
I don’t wanna give up but, baby It’s time I had two feet on the ground
Can you release me?
Can you release me?

Now that you’re gone I can’t help myself from wondering
Ohh, if you’d have come down from your high
Would we’ve been all right?
Release me, can you release me?

Come on, baby, come on, baby
You knew it was time to just let go
‘Cause we wanna be free
But somehow it’s just not that easy

Come on, darlin’, hear me, darlin’
‘Cause you’re a waste of time for me
I’m trying to make you see
That baby, you’ve just got to release me
Release me, release me

I’m not going back to you anymore
Finally my weakened heart is healing
Though very slow
So stop coming around my door
‘Cause you’re not gonna find what you’re looking for

Ohh, come on, baby, come on, baby
You knew it was time to just let go
‘Cause we wanna be free
Somehow it’s just not that easy
Oh, oh, oh, baby

Come on darlin’, now, hear me darlin’
‘Cause you’re a waste of time for me
I’m trying to make you see
That baby, you’ve just got to release me

Now tell me
What is this power you’ve got on me?
What is this power?

Ohh
Come on, baby, come on, baby
You knew it was time to just let go
‘Cause we wanna be free
But somehow it’s just not that easy

Oh, oh, oh, oh, baby
Come on darlin’, now, hear me darlin’
‘Cause you’re a waste of time for me
I’m trying to make you see
That baby, you’ve just got to release me
Release me, release me
Release me, will you release me?
Ahh, release me
Release me, will you release me?

by Traco Bucco on Aug 6, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did Bucs Dugout

become MySpace?

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I'm not sure what's worse:

the 9-game losing streak or the fact that you guys know these Wilson Phillips lyrics.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had never listened to Wilson Phillips before this evening, and I’m certainly not going to start after that.

by thecheeseisblue on Aug 7, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

wilson phillips lyrics... BY FAR!

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Aug 7, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell is Wilson Phillips

and, more importantly, can he hit?

"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway

by SubLime on Aug 7, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perfect.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Admit it

you’re more annoyed by Train than the 9 game skid

(i just don’t want to be the only one)

by downandout on Aug 6, 2011 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I admit this, although if the Pirates would have won I probably wouldn’t have written anything about how bad Train is.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 6, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

… And I was sad I didn’t get to see him pitch. He understandably didn’t seem to have much of a delivery. It probably would have been pretty entertaining.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 6, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

With Kevin “BP” Correia on the mound against the 1927 Yankees Padres, you just might get your wish.

by matskralc on Aug 6, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

seems like everyday the last few days, I need to leave right around 7.

Just as well, I guess…

by BurgherKing on Aug 6, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have given the Bucs mad respect for Rickrolling the whole stadium, even if it was a couple years late.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 6, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yep.

I lol’d.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's never too late to Rick Roll the Pirates fans.

It’s only been happening for 16 18 119 years. Or however long ago 1992 was.

So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.

by IAPiratesFan on Aug 6, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

so do i.
its not “hip” anymore

by Crusade on Aug 6, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not "hip" anymore

it is if you ask my ex-girlfriend.
i hated her for that.

by bbautista24 on Aug 6, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’d probably have a lot to say about the Pirates’ recent struggles, though. ‘F***in’ blowouts, how do they work?’

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 6, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

PNC

serves Faygo now?

Criminy.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Cannonball Crew

has always seemed a little Juggalo-y to me.

by calvinp on Aug 7, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I don’t wanna talk about sabermetrics—
Y’all (monkeyfighters) lying, and getting me (upset)!

by Kidspud on Aug 7, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Now that we're musically analyzing this

I keep hearing Anthony Keidis wail “How long, how long must I slide” in the beginning of “Otherside,” from the Red Hot Chili Peppers excellent Californication.

"Throw strikes, but don't give him anything good to hit."

by RichieHebner on Aug 7, 2011 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cheer up Charlie

Lars hit a grand slam tonite!

by fatbastard on Aug 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

so did Matt Hague...

He has more of a chance playing for the Pirates than Lars.

#FreeJoelHanrahan!
#AndAlltheBuntsAreStillBad!

by Slick1 on Aug 6, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea but

your team doesn’t really need me as of now. You guys have Ronny Cedeno! Even though he proved tonight , for the 750th time, that he has no baseball IQ he has a WAR approaching 2 and plays good defense. He’s a good SS. I read it on another thread on BD so it must be true!

by LarsAnderson on Aug 6, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother showed me the final score on his iPhone during dinner tonight.

I’m not sure what I read but I thought it said Padres won 7-6. I thought “Oh cool, they scored 5 after I left and they at least tried to come back and get some W.”

So I was able to enjoy a somewhat dry and over cooked hamburger, tasty french fries and a serious lack of good beer selection in the knowledge that the Pirates tried to win tonight. Then I got home and read the actual score. :-(

Are we sure that Bob Nutting isn’t Phillip Garrido in a very fancy costume?

So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.

by IAPiratesFan on Aug 6, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Rock

The trouble is that it’s hard to say what’s worse.
Is it the bands that throw out lyrics that any 13 year old could make up?
Or is the bands that act like they are trying to make some very special intellectual statement with an altish, indie geek rock band?
Another debate for another night of horrendous Buc baseball.
I’ve got that old cheated feeling once again.
Wonder why?

by HonzaBednarik on Aug 6, 2011 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

You ever been cheated on, by like a chick?

I’ve sort of gotten used to that feeling.

I’ve been through my mourning and crying over this team. I’m done. I’m just gonna watch the rest of this season and whatever happens, happens.

So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.

by IAPiratesFan on Aug 6, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mean reversion.

Boom.

Everybody stop freaking out we are still playing well over our heads.

Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained

by Kosstic518 on Aug 7, 2011 12:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You sir, just used ERA.

Anything you say is invalidated.

Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained

by Kosstic518 on Aug 7, 2011 12:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh man...

now you’ve done it.

#FreeJoelHanrahan!
#AndAlltheBuntsAreStillBad!

by Slick1 on Aug 7, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a curious argument indeed to posit that an eight-game losing streak, including double-digit losses to one of the worst teams in the sport, is “playing well over [their] heads”.

by matskralc on Aug 7, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eight, nine, they all look the same to me. The human mind has trouble handling large numbers like that, you know.

by matskralc on Aug 7, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Thank you i was thinking the same thing.

 And they need to start winning again so we all get this stick out of our asses.

age of last winning season: 5

by Bobby Hill on Aug 7, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it means

That the Pirates aren’t really as good as their 54-58 would indicate. Hard to argue the point after watching the past week’s games.

by maguro on Aug 7, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buccigross John Buccigross

1st time the Pirates lost consecutive games, each at home, each by a double-digit margin since they entered the National League in 1887

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

#historywasjustmade

"WHITESNAKE! DOKKEN! NIGHT RANGER!" -- Ronny Cedeño

by Superstar25 on Aug 7, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

…Yep. We made history alright.

Thank you Ned Colletti.

by ryebr3ad on Aug 9, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I would say well over their heads any more. There certainly isn’t an offensive player performing above his talent level, and the starters have more or less regressed to their FIP and xFIP numbers. Paulie’s got about another half run to go, and Karstens has another run, but the other three have seen their lines regress fully.

They’ve got a little regression left in those two, but they certainly aren’t playing well above their heads. Unless you meant the overall team performance, and not the individual players, it was pretty unclear. That would probably be a fair statement to make if it’s record you are referring to.

by thecheeseisblue on Aug 7, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry but

this is what we have resorted to in the game recap. Taking jabs at the post game concert???? Charlie this was an awful recap. I’m sure it has something to do with the losing streak, I didn’t watch the game, but if this it what I have to look forward too after missing the game then pass the recap off to someone else. Pitiful. I expect better from you.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Recap

The Pirates lost to the Padres 13-2. What more do you really need to say?

by DG Lewis on Aug 7, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i come here to read informatively. Instead I get on the site and read some b.s. Charlie writes up because were in a pissy mood that the Pirates lost! I’m being serious, I would have much rather heard about how we lost than trying to read through Charlie’s jumble of b.s. that he thought would be sarcastically funny to read. I generally don’t get offended by this but CHEER THE FUCK UP. Its a god damn baseball game that the Pirates lost! NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. This is HIS site, maintain a good attitude, and write in a well respected manner. Again I’m sorry, but this is how I feel.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

With all due respect, I think you’re the one who needs to lighten up. It was a 13-2 game that came on the heels of a 10-run blowout and in the midst of a nine-game losing streak. That’s going to bring out the absurdity. I would’ve guessed you didn’t watch the game even if you hadn’t said so, because this post probably would have made more sense to you if you had.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 7, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

ill agree the cursing was uncalled for

but if the best you can do is mock the lyrics of the post game concert in the game recap I am highly disappointed. it was tasteless and unnecessary IMO, idc that we were blown out again, I like to know how players did and what exactly happened. Not the garbage that is, this recap.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

just expressing my opinion on the recap to charlie dude. sorry this is just not the quality of stuff I’m used to reading from Charlie. I am entitled to be upset with such a recap if I missed the entirety of the game, no? not voicing out at you calvinp. just pointing it out to charlie that i was displeased with the way he went about the recap tonight.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

see that's where we completely disagree

This is exactly the quality of stuff I’m used to reading from Charlie. He’s a great writer with an ear for satire. And no matter what form the recaps take, they always in some sense capture the spirit of the game. That’s exactly what he did here.

by calvinp on Aug 7, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok then we disagree

my beef was with charlie, as i pointed out from the very beginning. he posts frequently, he can defend himself and for why the post was written the way it was. to each his own.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

C shint

Relax man Goto pirates.com for a official recap. 1 time out of 162 games he does this, and its after two straight blow outs.

Point is, there in the middle of a 8 game losing streak, and they DONT show up for a sold out saturday night game and get blown to bits. they dont deserve a real recap.

age of last winning season: 5

by Bobby Hill on Aug 7, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

No one is paying him to do this. I missed all but an inning (thank heavens) and I was glad to have the laugh. Seriously, jumping all over a guy who does this as what must effectively be a second job because he couldn’t read your mind and determine that you needed a full-on straight recap of the San Diego Chicken pecking out the Parrot’s eyeballs in front of 38,000 horrified spectators while A Flock of Seagulls’ doppelgängers waited in heated expectation of a captiv audience?

"Throw strikes, but don't give him anything good to hit."

by RichieHebner on Aug 7, 2011 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boxscore, hell

All I needed to look at was the line score:

SD 13-16-0
Pit 2-8-2

Pitching sucked, hitting sucked, fielding sucked. Here endeth the lesson.

by DG Lewis on Aug 7, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like to know how players did and what exactly happened

Thats what the PG site is for.

by BurgherKing on Aug 7, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is why i think this recap

was the best ever. priceless.

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Aug 7, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

"the P-G could never run a game story mocking a ridiculous outcome"

I think the closest that they’ve come to that was Chico Harlan’s article after the ’04 Penn State-Iowa football game, which the Hawkeyes won by the unusual tally of 6-4:

On the day of Penn State’s complete offensive collapse, God created numbers, not words, to tell the story.
Six to four.
That’s where this one ended, and that about says it. Six to four, as a football score, is ugliness and ineptitude and every other adjective for offensive futility rolled into one mass…

by Traco Bucco on Aug 7, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude, lighten up

This recap was hilarious. You really can’t be a Pirate fan (especially over the past ten games, but really over the past 19 years) without a sense of irony. It’s all we have after watching unfathomable shit like this for two decades — basically our entire lives (in my case).

The quality of his recent recaps is actually all that’s been getting me through the recent games.

by calvinp on Aug 7, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

to all their own opinion, i just don’t expect this kind of stuff on the front page when i come here to get my info, esp after missing a game. i could give to shits about the mocking of the post game concert. that is all.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here you go:

Straight story.

Really, CShint – I find this “rage” to be quite misdirected, and quite unlike you.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

this "rage" is qutie unlike me

and thats is why I do not like this backlash of comments against me. its rare for me to be like this. for those of you saying i need to go “check the box score”, ya know sorry that i choose BD as my first source of all things Pirates. Just not expecting this on the main page, where things are normally cool, calm, and collected. shittttttt everyone, relax, just expressing my overall thoughts to the game recap, not attacking anyone, just not what i was expecting as the first thing i read tonight.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think you were directing anything toward me.

But realize that it’s absolutely fine to use humour in the face of the nosedive the Bucs are taking. As a matter of fact, I think it’s almost necessary.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sure if i had in fact

watched some of this game, I could have laughed it off as the rest of you are. Apparently I choose the wrong site for a clean cut recap tonight as a result of me missing the whole game.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine. It wasn’t a clean-cut recap. That said, it did contain a lot of relevant information about the game: that Paul Maholm had a lot of well-placed singles hit off him, that Cory Luebke dominated the Pirates, that the Pirates struck out 11 times and never walked, that Pedro Alvarez had an awful at bat, that the Padres had a grand slam, that Ronny Cedeno fielded really badly, and that Clint Hurdle was talking with him about it in the dugout. That should tell you a lot about what happened.

You’re entitled to your opinion, obviously. I did, however, find it amusing that you flagged me – that will come in handy later when I’m deciding whether or not to ban myself.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 7, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

heh i know i flagged you, just wanted to get my point across that i was not in favor of tonight’s post is all. i’ve calmed down now that i have actually gone over the game and what had happened.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s cool. It was funny.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 7, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

hehe did you read my comments, that were directed to you, i just wasnt sure if you actually get to read them as such.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I see them all eventually.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 7, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

alright, again just making sure to draw your attention to what I had to say, no hard feelings dude, like i’ve said now several times, just didn’t like the way this recap was drawn up, nothing more than that

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Less time defending yourself, more time mocking poor lyricists, please!

Your traffic stats and comment counts will tell you all you need to know about whether or not there’s a problem with your style.

by matskralc on Aug 7, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

i turned the game on

and saw the score was 13-2 in the 9th and Xavier “F-ing” Paul was warming up in the pen.
Trust me you do NOT want to know anymore.

by bbautista24 on Aug 7, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I understand your point, and I’m not going to get on your case about it. But I would like ot say let Charlie have a little fun every once in a while. The recap may be joking around, but the essential points are still there, and it’s not fun to think about back to back blowouts seriously, let alone right about them. Not to mention that Charlie does all of these, and keeps this place up and running, while I’m sure he’s getting paid next to nothing, and it can’t be fun for him to have to try to be all business, all the time. It’s just that a game like this doesn’t need a super professional recap, it was horrendous. But if that’s what you want, that’s valid. I just would like to let Charlie make a lighthearted, fun post every so often.

by thecheeseisblue on Aug 7, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

we’ve moved past that now, but I’m glad you at least could see where I was coming from. all is well now.

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

When we lose our sense of humor...

we’re screwed.

Enjoy what went down for about 105 games. Anyone that seriously didn’t expect a bad spell this season has lost touch with reality. This team is not good enough to win a division based on talent alone. The Pirates as a team, performed well above what anyone could have expected based on the past established performance levels of individual players. The fact that they are regressing to those levels doesn’t take away from what happened up until 10 days ago.

Most of the “oldtimers” here, meaning the ones that have been around for several years, seem to have taken this streak in stride. If we can’t laugh about some of the stuff, or at least have some fun with it, it’s time to get away for awhile. I got a laugh out of Charlie’s writing, and understood that it was mimicking a “bandwagon” family that isn’t really there to root on the Pirates, going to their first game and seeing a “concert” by a “well known” band afterward.

by Thunder on Aug 7, 2011 12:36 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well said.

Although you could have put “band” in quotation marks, as well, IMO…

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on man...

I don’t hate Train.

#FreeJoelHanrahan!
#AndAlltheBuntsAreStillBad!

by Slick1 on Aug 7, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Case in point.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Point taken, though I did try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

by Thunder on Aug 7, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish Charlie would have quoted

“the best soy latte that you ever had… and me.”

by calvinp on Aug 7, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah. Wow. Whenever my brother is making fun of Train, he always quotes that one.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 7, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Can you imagine no love, pride, deep-fried chicken?”

I was at a karaoke joint in Oakland (California, not Pittsburgh) and the DJ claimed to have co-written that song. He then got up and sang it really badly.

There’s a germ of something good in that song, honestly. I just don’t understand that band’s need to devolve into nonsense that trivializes everything. (And then there’s all the unexamined cliches, which are bad but far less offensive.)

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 7, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps they're trying to be

Dennis Miller, but have no sense of irony?

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly thought the original post was LFO (RIP) for a second before I read on

by Mr. E on Aug 7, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

See there,

I’ve managed to avoid Train completely, thus making it impossible for me to appreciate the mockery, much less mock them myself.

I have to trust y’all on that one.

Now if we want to mock … I dunno, Journey, I can help with that.

WHOAAAAAooooooWHOAAAAAAAooooooooo

*—I have, however, taken Amtrak several times.

by bucdaddy on Aug 7, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for Journey slagging

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Aug 7, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this actually a popular song lyric?

Chrissakes.

"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway

by SubLime on Aug 7, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

#FreeJoelHanrahan!
#AndAlltheBuntsAreStillBad!

by Slick1 on Aug 7, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

by pizzahutpopup on Aug 7, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh question to all

does anyone know whats up with Matt Curry, he hasn’t played in several days, I’ve heard nothing about it

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

he's been traded for a bucket og range balls and a wooden shafted driver

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Aug 7, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t found anything about an injury. Maybe it’s just fatigue? He’s going to set his career high for games played since he’s already played almost as many this year as last year between college and the minors. So maybe they’re just giving him a rest. I have no actual idea, though.

by thecheeseisblue on Aug 7, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought it may be this but then realized he could still get some games off while collecting an AB here or there at some point in a game. Just weird to not see him anywhere on the stat sheet recently

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Per Altoona Mirror...

Curry has missed the last 3 games with a stiff neck. He’s day to day.

by Thunder on Aug 7, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank ye sir

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Aug 7, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I leave for 8 days

and this fan is showering poo all over, really? Hold it together guys, I’ll be back tomorrow.

by Mr. E on Aug 7, 2011 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Train...

…but I do have to give them props for three things from tonight’s show:

1) They played a Zeppelin cover, and did a respectable job of it.
2) They kept playing without missing a beat when the audio guy totally shat the bed and dropped the main feed.
and
3) The lead singer ran the entire way around the outside of the field and gave a high-five to pretty much every person in the park who wanted one, which was pretty cool of him. He could have just cashed the check and mailed in his set, but he was actually making an effort to please the crowd (which is more than I could say for certain members of the team yesterday/today).

They also said on the PA that the lead singer grew up as a Pirates fan and still roots for the team, so he can’t be all bad, right?

by Vlad on Aug 7, 2011 1:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I guess the tl;dr version of that...

…is that being a Pirates fan has conditioned me to be much more tolerant of a lack of skill than a lack of effort.

Not everybody has it in them to be Bob Dylan or Miles Davis, y’know?

by Vlad on Aug 7, 2011 2:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hmm

In that case, what kind of range does that singer fella have at short?

by matskralc on Aug 7, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

More important

can he hold a lead in the eighth inning?

by DG Lewis on Aug 7, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, man

Having read that I feel awful having called them doppelgängers for A Flock of Seagulls."

"Throw strikes, but don't give him anything good to hit."

by RichieHebner on Aug 7, 2011 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

its train

they be terrible.

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Aug 7, 2011 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree

I think the article is funny Charlie, but I will defend Train a bit (I can’t believe this). I was once a “professional musician” and used to vote for the Grammy awards but have given up on it. I saw Train at a corp event and know nothing of their music but they beat my low expectations.

1. The singer can actually sing and the band can actually play which makes them better than most pop acts
2. They work hard, and tour all of the time and seem to enjoy playing. They used to be a Zeppelin impersonation band so I think they appreciate the success they now have. Again that’s better than most.
3. I think they are closer to average than bad on the spectrum of successful acts, which says more about the sorry state of the music industry than it does about Train

They are bubble gum and I think the Winger comparison is pretty apt but they aren’t that bad and are nowhere near the worst acts on the pop charts today.

Yinzers uber alles

by BostonBuc on Aug 7, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie, I love you

Just thought you should know. I kind of hope we lose more blowout games so I can see more of this. I’m so happy right now.

"WHITESNAKE! DOKKEN! NIGHT RANGER!" -- Ronny Cedeño

by Superstar25 on Aug 7, 2011 3:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks. Love the new sig.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Aug 7, 2011 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

“WHITESNAKE! DOKKEN! NIGHT RANGER!”

It’s an American heavy metal weekend!

Yinzers uber alles

by BostonBuc on Aug 7, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry......

Whitesnake are Brits

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by dr_roxtar on Aug 7, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They said you can still Rock in America...

ALL of the America’s apparently, just not the United States of… Though probably just the U.S.

#FreeJoelHanrahan!
#AndAlltheBuntsAreStillBad!

by Slick1 on Aug 8, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for brining some humor

to last night disaster. I quickly left when the game ended, the logged on this morning. Couldn’t of been a better recap. Correia still scheduled….but I am on the Lincoln watch.

by NHpiratefan on Aug 7, 2011 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

you traveled to Pitt and saw this? Sorry about your luck. I missed the game and am glad I did.

Yinzers uber alles

by BostonBuc on Aug 7, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, no

Left BD. Thought the Charlie write was was fitting for the night + last nine games.

by NHpiratefan on Aug 7, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

certainly they are not going to bring kc out today. I don’t think that is a good idea at all.

by JSteelers86 on Aug 7, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

This team has me completely baffled, making

the Padres look like the 1976 Cincinnati Reds the last two nights. One of the weird aspects of this 9 game losing streak is how poorly the team is playing now as compared to the tough one run loss in extra innings at Philadelphia.

Usually, a losing team with a new manager will play like this early in the season, then slowly improve. The Bucs were a few games under .500 in April, then improved May-July.

I only see the highlights of these games, but it almost seems like the team lost lost confidence, which is strange, considering the recent success, and how they’ve generally played against playoff caliber competition in both leagues.

by SteelStealth on Aug 7, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

The

whole thing has been weird.. I think they need to bring in a dozen sports head shrinkers into the clubhouse and get some of the key players on the couch.

by JSteelers86 on Aug 7, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Trane?

I think my heat pump* might be a Trane. But what does that have to do with music?

—Heh-heh, he said “heat pump.”*

**—Sorry, couldn’t help it, must have been the mention of Winger up there somewhere.

—As long as we’re talking about mocking ’80s bands:

www.metacafe.com/watch/2828613/spinal_tap_lick_my_love_pump/

by bucdaddy on Aug 7, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

What are you guys talking about?

Lots of great train songs.

“Train Kept-a Rollin’” — Aerosmith
“Crazy Train” — Ozzy
“Driver 8” — REM
“Southern Pacific” — Neil Young
“Train Train” — UFO
“Catch Your Train” — Scorpions

All aboard!

by bucdaddy on Aug 7, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Crazy Train

Best opening to the worst song ever.

by matskralc on Aug 7, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie,

So let me get this straight: Train sucks, and you know Train sucks, yet you STAYED AND LISTENED TO TRAIN?

I hope I misinterpret.

by bucdaddy on Aug 7, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

As far as the pitching...

I still don’t believe this to be a terrible team. They’re not any kind of contender, but the destructions they’ve gotten in the last week are normal regression for a staff that doesn’t get strikeouts. Kevin Correia isn’t a good pitcher and Karstens is going to regress even more, but three of five starters (Maholm, McDonald, Morton) should be fine for the last two months, as should be Brad Lincoln.

The bullpen should be good. It may not be, but only because Clint Hurdle is a blowhard without even the slightest clue of how to manage it.

No jinx no jinx no jinx.

by Suffering Buc on Aug 7, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Not JMac and Morton.

Since J.A. Happ got optioned to the minors by the Astros last night, we now have the TWO starting pitchers with the highest WHIPs in the league.

Get your arms around the idea that JMac and Morton allow more baserunners than any other regular starter in the NL and realize that the Pirates are very fortunate that their ERAs aren’t a lot higher than they currently are. In fact, Morton’s should probably be closer to 4.80 than 3.80, except he had only given up 2 HR in the first 3 months of the season.

by Thunder on Aug 7, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIP and xFIP disagree with you on Morton. xFIP disagrees with you on JMac.

by thecheeseisblue on Aug 7, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHIP is not really a great analytical stat

Especially for a guy like Morton who is an extreme groundball pitcher.

by maguro on Aug 7, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So putting more baserunners on base than any other starters in the National League is something that should be ignored?? Might want to check with the GM whether WHIP means anything.

by Thunder on Aug 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What maguro means

Is that the pitcher isn’t the only guy putting those baserunners there. Hence, the lack of utility in WHIP for evaluative purposes re: pitchers.

by matskralc on Aug 7, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

and extreme GB pitchers are going to erase more baserunners on DPs than the normal guy

by Mr. E on Aug 7, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not something that should be ignored...

…but it does need to be contextualized. The hits portion of WHIP is always going to include a large defensive component that’s beyond the pitcher’s control, and WHIP is never going to give an extreme groundballer like new-Morton the proper amount of credit for his ultra-low HR rate.

WHIP is a decent thumbnail picture of a pitcher, but if you’re going to do anything serious, you should uses more advanced measure like xFIP instead.

by Vlad on Aug 7, 2011 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

Thanks for cheering me up!

by houksyndrome on Aug 7, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no idea what Hurdle was thinking when he put that lineup on the field last night. That group was not going to beat anybody.

by Stan Rojek on Aug 7, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait until you see today’s lineup.

by Thunder on Aug 7, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering when someone was going to start a venting thread.

I really didn’t expect it to be like this, but it was funny and I liked it. I’m also glad that I’m not the only one that seems to hate the mindless and pointless songs that the youth of America seem to flock to these days.

by Kev S on Aug 7, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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