Pirates Dominated By Dana Eveland, Lose 6-4

by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 1, 2011 7:17 PM EDT

PITTSBURGH, PA - SEPTEMBER 01: Dana Eveland #37 of the Los Angeles Dodgers pitches against the Pittsburgh Pirates during the game on September 1, 2011 at PNC Park in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)

The Bucs' ninth-inning comeback attempt fell short as the Pirates lost to Dana Eveland and the Dodgers, 6-4. Eveland pitched eight innings and allowed six hits, no walks and a run, and the offense was pretty much silent the entire time. Brad Lincoln got through six innings and allowed three runs, all of them in the first.

The offense suddenly sprang into action against Blake Hawksworth in the ninth, as Alex Presley hit a two-run homer. Kenley Jansen then came in and allowed a walk, a single and a sacrifice fly to make it 6-4. That's all the Pirates would manage, as Josh Harrison and Brandon Wood struck out.

I was pretty depressed about seven innings into this one, so I'm glad to see something good happen in the ninth. The four runs and nine hits the Pirates ultimately got were respectable, and would have been enough to keep the Pirates in the game had it not been for another Chris Resop meltdown in the eighth. But still ... Dana Eveland. This is bad.

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Why

is Chris Resop still on this roster? Is this toad capable of pitching just one easy 1-2-3 inning? And Dana Eveland LOL a guy so bad even the 2010 Bucs released him – that is REALLY bad. And he looks like this year’s Cy Young winner against us. You may think I am exaggerating but I honestly don’t see this club winning more than 2-3 games in Sept when you look at who we are playing.

by fitguync30 on Sep 1, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions

Good all year. No peep.

Bad near the end. “Release his ass!”

He’s most likely fatigued. He’ll be back to normal next season — we relied on him quite a bit.

Thank you Ned Colletti.

by ryebr3ad on Sep 1, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions

You are assuming that the two good months from Resop were the norm....

I agree that we have used Resop a little more than we should have but he throws a really straight fastball and I suspect that he is nothing more than a 6th or 7th man out of an average team’s bullpen. As such i don’t think he should be a lock for anything next year. If he is better than the competition, he gets a spot and if not he goes to waivers whence he came. Some people seem to assume that the two months where the bullpen pitched lights out is their true talent level and I think what we are seeing now is probably closer. Only Meek and Hanrahan should be guaranteed jobs in the pen next year, the rest should be the best options and Huntington should be looking for a good lefty and another right handed arm or two. Veras and Resop should be your 5th and 6th man for even a .500 team’s bullpen.

by dack2001 on Sep 2, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Pitcher A: 3.73 FIP 4.13 BB/9 10.33 K/9
Pitcher B: 3.69 FIP 4.12 BB/9 9.52 K/9

One is Veras and one is Resop

.350ish BABIP for one of them and .240ish BABIP for the other.

Might as well release them all, I guess.

by dirtyfrank on Sep 2, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

You forget 2010 also

that makes 5 dominant months and two awful months (May and August this year). Hitters had a BABIP of .436 against Resop in August and it’s also the first of 7 months in which he had a K/9 of less than 9, so that probably indicates a little fatigue.

by Mr. E on Sep 2, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s like the team just shut down after the trade deadline. Apparently, Lee and Ludwick are made of kryptonite.

by Aphthakid on Sep 1, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

DANA EVELAND

who here wants to cry? …… its ok, i shed a tear too….

well i see no reason to not just bring up any and everyone who could be remotely interesting to see what they can do in the last month of another meaningless september in pittsburgh….

Oh, well. Atleast AP had a good day, i look forward to seeing him play the rest of the season to determine if he has a future with us.

by bbautista24 on Sep 1, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions

More reason to cry

I am in the Dodger home area so I saw the game on the local channel instead of on Root. Late in the game their commentators announced that the Dodgers had been worried about this game because in Eveland’s last start, which was in AAA, he gave up something like 11 hits and 8 ERs in four innings.

by WestCoastBuc on Sep 1, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah, good ol' KCAL9...

Who was their broadcast team?

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 1, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't pay a lot of attention to that but I do know one of them was named Steve

by WestCoastBuc on Sep 1, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions

who cares

if i was playing a team that was starting DANA “FUCKING” EVELAND id be pretty pleased with this team too.

by bbautista24 on Sep 2, 2011 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow.

Who said anything about being “pleased?”

I was asking WCB who the broadcasters were, since I used to live in L.A., and hadda watch the Doyers an inordinate amount.

Deep breaths, man – deep breaths.

Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Sep 2, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

i may have been drinking when i posted that,

because even i do not know what i am talking about there?

by bbautista24 on Sep 3, 2011 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions

this season needs to end

by theatrain on Sep 1, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Yeah. When you’re fantasizing about a 135-game season, that’s not good.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Sep 1, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

A 103-game season would've been perfect

by maguro on Sep 1, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions

this

by bbautista24 on Sep 2, 2011 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Click.

That’s me, officially turning out the lights on my interest in the 2011 Pirates.

It was fun while it lasted, but this week has been a string of games of Rochambeau, with the other team going first each and every time.

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Sep 1, 2011 9:03 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah.

I need girls to make this horrible feeling go away for the night.

So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.

by IAPiratesFan on Sep 1, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions

Oops.

Horrible feeling of losing to Dana Eveland and not being able to win anymore. This sucks.

So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.

by IAPiratesFan on Sep 1, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions

SALE THE TEAM!!!

パトリック

by patthatt on Sep 1, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions

Eveland

seems to have been described often as being talented but wild. If the “stuff” is there, any pitcher can have a good day. How did he look to the people who watched the game?

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Sep 1, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

Fringe pitcher

looked impressive only because the Bucs hitters were mailing it in.

by JCBucs on Sep 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions

He is a fringe pitcher, but he was a pretty good prospect back in the day. I’m surprised he’s only 27.

by bolton on Sep 2, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions

Is there any way

this team isn’t secretly out to crush the souls of all remaining Pirate fans? Everybody on the team seemingly takes turns losing games for us by blowing the games at different point and in different (yet equally horrifying) ways. Take, for example, Chris Resop.

Resop pitched in the Jerry Meals game* and lowered his ERA to 3.26 with 10.9 K/9! Would anybody hesitate to call that guy a reliable setup man? Since then, Resop has appeared in 16 games and has been scored upon in nine of them. He failed to record a single out twice. His ERA since that game is about 10…fucking TEN!!! On the rare occasion when Resop has been effective, the Pirates were typically out of the game. Of his 7 scoreless appearances over the past month, 4 of them came in blowouts (run differential of at least 5 runs+/-), 2 were a tie and 1 was when the Pirates were losing. This means that Resop has not pitched effectively with a slim lead-NOT ONCE-in more than a month. How is this possible? This is not regression to the mean, this is something different altogether I just can’t figure out what that is.

*Is it at all appropriate to blame Jerry Meals for all of this. I know it seems circumstantial. I know that there is no conclusive evidence that momentum exists in sports. Still, through 19 innings of that game, the Pirates were 6 games over after 100 games. it was not a small sample size. They were outplaying the second best team in the NL on the road. The team was finding ways to win the close games, or at least as many of the close games as they should. Since then, they have found every possible way to lose the games.

by KentuckyPirate on Sep 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

if they're trying to crush my soul,

it’s working :( :( :(

by gonfalon on Sep 2, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions

The Pirates can't crush my soul.

My ex-girlfriend crushed my soul on October 30, 2005.

So onto my love rocket, climb, Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love.

by IAPiratesFan on Sep 2, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions

Part of the problem why Resop hasn’t pitched a scoreless inning with the Bucs maintaining a slim lead is the Pirates didn’t have many leads in the month of August. Period.

by Fat Jimmy on Sep 2, 2011 4:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

There is no such thing as a “reliable setup man”. Relievers are flaky – that’s just how it works.

by Vlad on Sep 2, 2011 5:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Unless, of course..

you can afford to pay a closer top dollar when you have a better set-up man (Red Sox)

you can sacrafice some of the farm to acquire someone as reliable as they come (Rangers)

Or are you strictly of the opinion that all relievers, no matter what, are flaky?

Just an example, if the Red Sox had acquired Hanrahan and had a bullpen of Hanny, Bard, and Papelbon, would that still be flaky?

by jlk9697 on Sep 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Unless, of course, you can afford to pay a closer top dollar when you have a better set-up man

Even that doesn’t always work out. Look at what Boston’s gotten from Bobby Jenks this year, or what Rafael Soriano’s done for the Yankees.

Or are you strictly of the opinion that all relievers, no matter what, are flaky?

More so than other players, certainly, even above and beyond the fact that most veterans are flakier than people realize.

by Vlad on Sep 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Makes sense.

I wonder what the results would be if the a team like the Phillies inexplicably moved Roy Halladay from the rotation to the bullpen?

Would he instantly be the best reliever in baseball (he’s arguably the best starter in baseball, so one would naturally assume..) or would he be susceptible to the same ups and downs most relievers go through?

by jlk9697 on Sep 2, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Some of those ups and downs are just a function of the smaller sample size of the pitcher’s workload. You’re always going to have more variance in a guy’s year-to-year performance if he’s throwing 60 innings rather than 180.

by Vlad on Sep 2, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

Although I think Resop has the most appearances by a reliever in the Bullpen aside from Veras as I recall the bucco announcers mentioning the other day.

Now wondering if that’s the most Resop has pitched as a reliever?

by lfhlaw on Sep 2, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Then it's official

Chris Resop is secretly Kosstic, trying for a higher draft pick.

by Mr. E on Sep 2, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions

mean

Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained

by Kosstic518 on Sep 1, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Sounds like I picked a good day to miss a game.

Will probably not be seen much in here for the next several days. Going to be dealing with the tropical depression, working 12 on/12 off through the weekend. So it’s work, sleep, eat, and not much else. If the losing streak continues, it’s not my fault. I stayed away today, so it couldn’t be me ;-)

by Thunder on Sep 2, 2011 2:14 AM EDT reply actions

PS…so don’t be looking for weather reports from me for the Saturday game, when thunderstorms are forecast in Chicago.

by Thunder on Sep 2, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions

by bucdaddy on Sep 2, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions

+1.

by bolton on Sep 2, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

+1

I wouldn’t want Russell back, ever, but ~~maybe, just maybe,~~ the manager’s personality doesn’t have ~~much of~~ anything to do with it when your team sucks.

FTFY, as a courtesy.

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Sep 2, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

'Preciate it.

Everyone can use a good editor, Bishop. As I always insist when I’m editing.

by bucdaddy on Sep 2, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions

As far as I see it

Contact is the biggest issue for the Pirates Offense right now. Too many Strikeouts…the only way that works out is if Homeruns are hit verses the Strikeouts and we’re not doing that.

Also, too many watched called strike. ya gotta put the ball in play to even have a chance.

by lfhlaw on Sep 2, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions