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The Pirates have invited Gerrit Cole, Robbie Grossman, Tony Sanchez, Ramon Cabrera, Eric Fryer and Mike Crotta to big-league Spring Training as non-roster invites. None of these are hugely surprising -- it's not uncommon for a team to invite the previous year's first-round pick if he's a college player. Crotta is there because he has a bit of big-league experience. And teams always need plenty of catchers in Spring Training. None of these six players are likely to make the team. It's cool that Grossman will get a taste of big-league Spring Training for a couple weeks, though.

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nice reward for Grossman

after last year’s awesome season AND THEN his great work in the AFL he’s one of the most exciting prospects in all the game to keep track of this year to see how he follows it up at AA. I’d imagine that’s where he’ll be starting right?

by Mingy on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

yeah AA for Grossman

Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott

by C Shint on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahahahahahaah, +1

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

What's the consensus on Cabrera?

He’s a bit old for the level, but not by much. Just by a quick view of the stats I’m seeing a guy that can hit for average, get on base, and at least has a little pop in the bat. Tony Sanchez is obviously the more talked about and anticipated catcher, but Cabrera’s a year and a half younger and should be right on his tail.

Is Cabrera starting in AA this season? Looks to me like he got enough at-bats and did enough in Bradenton to warrant a move up, but his CS % is pretty low at 13%, so maybe he needs additional work in High A?

by jlk9697 on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

It wouldn't surprise me

to see Cabrera open 2012 in Altoona with Carlos Paulino sticking around Bradenton a while longer. Cabrera hit really well last year (as did most of Bradenton) but he’s also built like a bowling ball (5’7" 200#). I’m not saying that his body type will be what ultimately limits him, but there’s no getting around that it is not ideal if you are projecting his future success.

by KentuckyPirate on Jan 17, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Hard to say until we see him against advanced competition. He had a good season last year, but he’s awfully short… will the bat project forward?

by Vlad on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

Sanchez got invited to spring training three years ago and hit a homer off the Yanks.

by yellowpotbelly on Jan 17, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Any word on Chris Snyder?

I’d be interested in bringing him back for real cheap if his health checks out.

Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained

by Kosstic518 on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

absolutely!

me too. something like 2.5 million or something would be a steal and would make me feel 1000 times better about our catching situation. Snyder Barajas should be pretty above average tandem

by Mingy on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Snyder could probably be had for less that.

If healthy, he would be our best catcher. I dont think many teams trust that back though.

Hes going to be a coach sooner than he thought.

by white angus on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be averse to this

Given the inevitability that one will be injured at some point, McKenry could then get the call from Indy.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Jan 17, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

the longer it goes, the more it looks like a minor league contract is all he’ll get

by Mr. E on Jan 17, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take him on a MLC in a second.

I’d probably take him on $1 MM deal right now as well.

Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained

by Kosstic518 on Jan 17, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably the split deal where he gets more than minimum if he makes the major league team, or other incentives. I don’t think Ohlendorf has signed yet either has he? I guess our castoffs aren’t in such high demand.

by Mr. E on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

is it just me

or is Sanchez taking a bloody long time in the minors for a first rounder (even with the broken jaw setback)?

No-jinx

by BlindSquirrel on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

"is it just me"

Yes.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jan 17, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

righto

so… Pedro WAS rushed then.

by BlindSquirrel on Jan 18, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yessirree.

He surely was.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty typical progression for a college hitter. Maybe a little slow for a first-round college bat, though the injury and the fact that he’s a defense-first guy both play into that.

by Vlad on Jan 18, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

first round player out of college that is

by BlindSquirrel on Jan 17, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

Not really

In the 2009 draft, there were 29 college players taken in the first round (well, 28 but I’m going to include Tanner Scheppers too). Out of those 29, 28 signed. Of those 28, 19 have yet to play in the majors. Even looking at the 9 guys who have put on a big league uniform, 2 (Garrett Richards and Alex White only got a cup of coffee). Ultimately, you’re left with only 7/28 guys making the majors already, so it’s not really accurate to condemn Sanchez for failing to do so (yet). Out of those remaining 21 players, some are likely to bust or have serious bust concerns…cough…Victor Black…cough…but there are also some excellent prospects still out there including Grant Green (AA in 2011), Brett Jackson (AA/AAA) and Tim Wheeler (AA).

by KentuckyPirate on Jan 17, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Yea but like you said 25% of the players taken have made the majors while Sanchez is a college player and will be repeating AA three years after he was drafted. So it’s pretty obvious he’s had a setback, although its way too early to give up on the guy. Hopefully he can be a 280/350/450 catcher with plus defense for us one day.

by Merle1989 on Jan 17, 2012 11:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Meh

I might be picking nits here, but being on the same pace as 75% of your draft class doesn’t seem like a “bloody long time” to me. Not only that, he was at the same level this year as fellow top prospects Green and Wheeler. I’m not convinced Sanchez repeats AA either. If TS rebounds from his injury and subsequent weight loss, I’ll bet he’s in Pittsburgh in September.

by KentuckyPirate on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

will be repeating AA three years after he was drafted

Is that a given at this point? I thought they were still figuring out the catching assignments…

by Vlad on Jan 18, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

We were talking about that last night

while taping the new podcast.

I’m not sure it’s set in stone yet where Sanchez will be, though my guess is that even if he starts at AA, it’ll be just long enough to make sure he’s back on track, bat-wise.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jan 18, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I was going to ask that

If neither goes north with the Pirates, where do Sanchez and Fryer start the year? I’d LOVE to see one of them make the big club, but the team seems comfortable with Barajas and Fort, so I don’t think they’d push that too hard.

by SuperBaes on Jan 18, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

depends on Morales, doesnt it?

i believe someone on here, vlad or wilbur, stated that Morales has an out clause and may not accept a minor league assignment. if he doesnt, Fryer might be the #1 catcher in Indy with Sanchez in AA to start. If Morales does accept a minor league assignment, Fryer would split time with him until Sanchez gets the call.

with Fryer also being a good athlete, he could stick around as a Jake Fox type, backing up catcher and the corner outfield spots. he could probably see some time at 1B too.

by white angus on Jan 19, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Per Jenny L, who ought to know, Morales does indeed have an out clause. Actually, he has two: one at the end of March, and another in mid-May.

by Vlad on Jan 19, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So what's the deal with Jenny?

Is she gone? She still seems to be doing some reporting on the Bucs.

by Wizard of Woz on Jan 19, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Tom Singer

takes over on the 21st.

Good writer.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jan 19, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I usedta read him

in the L.A. Herald-Examiner in the 80’s.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jan 19, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

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