Pirates top 15 prospects per Fangraphs
This list is probably the most unique look at the Pirates farm system I've seen yet. Good writeups and at least decent logic to back up the order.
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agreed, the order of that list is rather unique
I’m not sure what the writer was getting at about “undisclosed injuries” with Sanchez, though. his broken jaw in 2010 (and subsequently having to eat thru a straw for several months) was rather well documented, and it’s not a stretch to conclude that injury affected his 2011 season.
This list
is just crazy and here’s why. I’m all for people being bold and different, but be consistent.
Fangraphs has Anthony Gose #1 on the Blue Jays list. Then they have Marte at #6. Pretty interesting to me.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jan 29, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
fangraphs. Insider information.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jan 29, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
i could see Gose as a #1
the Blue Jays have great depth and a lot of potential, but they don’t have a lot of people of the caliber of Cole/Taillon
My
point is they are very similar players. Toolsy guys with plate discipline issues (high K’s for Gose, low walks for Marte). Yet, this guy is high on Gose, higher than most, and he’s low on Marte, lower than most. Struck me as peculiar.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jan 29, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Toolsy guys with plate discipline issues (high K’s for Gose, low walks for Marte).
If anything, that unfairly elevates Gose, since high-K prospects have a much worse track record as a group than low-BB ones.
Just to clarify
You are saying that you think this comment is an unfairly favorable comment regarding Gose?
by KentuckyPirate on Jan 31, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
what i was saying is
Gose’s ranking in the Blue Jays system is not comparable to Marte’s ranking in the Pirates system. The Blue Jays (probably) dont have anyone like Taillon or Cole, for instance. To get a fell of his opinion, you’d need to see them ranked on the same list.
by BurgherKing on Jan 31, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
i could see having cole over taillon
but bell. he has yet to play one out., might as well have heradia, the next randy johnson.
by karreemofwheat on Jan 29, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
That’s just a bizarre list. Bell’s a good prospect and all, but I have no idea why you’d rank him ahead of Taillon. There’s just no good reason for Sanchez to be No. 4. The praise for the front office’s first-round picks in that blurb is also very strange.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Jan 27, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions
why technically they are going to suppress him
til July 2013
isnt FanGraphs a stat site?
maybe they are guessing future value for stats only? i have no idea.
Bell above Taillon is borderline abusive.
isnt FanGraphs a stat site?
More so than not.
They have some good contributors, but they also have Dave Cameron, who’s probably the single most inept and off-putting stat guy since the heyday of Mike Gimbel in Boston.
Bryan Morris
This list is basically a randomized version of Cutch’s: 14 of them are on Cutch’s top 20 in his Buried Treasure sidebar. The order’s a little screwy to me, but everyone values different things in prospects differently, whether that’s age vs. level, stats, projectability, etc.
The only crazy thing here is Bryan Morris. BRYAN MORRIS?!? That’s crazy talk.
he only has Bry-Mo one spot above Sickels
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by WHYG Zane Smith on Jan 27, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I guess it’s not a huge deal; early-teens for the organization. I just don’t ever envision Morris having any success as a MLB pitcher… do you?
I just don’t ever envision Morris having any success as a MLB pitcher… do you?
I do, if only as a relief arm. He’s well ahead of where Hanrahan was at the same age…
Wasn't Hanny starting at that point too?
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by nycbucsfan on Jan 27, 2012 8:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FWIW
I almost dropped Gorkys to 21, put Holmes at 19, and put Morris at 20. I had Morris at #3 or #4 last year. I had him high, so ya…..
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jan 29, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Me thinks
This list is pretty good actually. I’m probably more confident than most that Sanchez will be a good/great every day catcher. I think Grossman and Marte move up one, and plop Sanchez down at 6. If Tallion, Cole, and Bruce Lee all end up in the same rotation, eyes gunna enjoy my life.
by bosten7 on Jan 27, 2012 2:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
In fact, it's just a little bit frightening..
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