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Buster Olney steps into the A.J. Burnett void, as of Valentine's Day evening:

And both sides are doing their due diligence in haggling. But it's gone from close to really close to really really close

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I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm. ~~ Mike Tyson

by Cheap Beer on Feb 15, 2012 2:07 AM EST reply actions  

Drama

Man, is all of this drama because it is NY? I can’t wait to get back to dealing with teams like the Indians and Mariners again.

by BrianO' on Feb 15, 2012 3:31 AM EST reply actions  

Correct-o on the "drama" part...

These things often take a week or more, but because it’s the Yankmees, it gets 24/7 coverage.

Because the whole world cares what happens in New York.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

My bagel for breakfast this morning was awesome!

I’ll keep you guys posted on lunch and dinner as events warrant.

by Garrett122 on Feb 15, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

lunch was some leftover risotto

which m’lady made me yesterday for v-day.

In other NYC news, I bought some replacement mop heads at Home Depot and made a bank deposit for work. FEEL THE EXCITEMENT.

by Garrett122 on Feb 15, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

My father's brother's nephew's cousin's former room-mate...

…said that this deal is positively, absolutely, definitely maybe happening potentially as soon as a day ending in “y”.

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Feb 15, 2012 7:13 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I heard differently from his Spanish teacher

but his pharmacist told me another thing. Who knows what to believe anymore?

The glare of the spotlight is harsh, and the pressure that success breeds immense. We revere our heroes, but expect much. And criticism can come as easily as praise.
Perspectives become reality.
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by glass0941 on Feb 15, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I heard from a relieable source

that he had a connection and the connection said it was done. I think the guy’s name was sweetleb, or something like that.

by Wizard of Woz on Feb 15, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Whenever I read sweetleb's comments

I’m reminded of that old Black Sabbath tune Sweet Leaf

by gorillagogo on Feb 15, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

English to French to Italian to English:

I ’ m remembered when people put the substance from the translators online 5-6 times to see this that she exits.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

English to Dutch to French to German to English

Me reminded on, to place if the people the material by translator five on-line or six times, in order to see, what comes

by gorillagogo on Feb 15, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

English to Haitian Creole to Czech to Yiddish to Icelandic to Arabic to English

I remember when there is something in the translation of 5-6 times on the website to see what’s out there.

:shrug:

by gonfalon on Feb 15, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

English to Japanese to English to Japanese to English to Japanese

and on and on until it settles down:

“Translation – mushrooms from 6 M, 1, 5, and translation.”

courtesy the awesome translation party, and I have no idea where “mushroom” comes from.

Not actually affiliated with whygavs.

by WHYG Zane Smith on Feb 15, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

if you fix the copy-paste of "I'm"

It turns into “6 Remember only 5: or come online translator/translation,” which is much less awesome.

Not actually affiliated with whygavs.

by WHYG Zane Smith on Feb 15, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Everyone has officially run out of real things to discuss. Spring Training really needs to start…. Now.

by 2013Pirates on Feb 15, 2012 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

cocktails = sweetleb?

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

You can ask him

next time you do the podcast…

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

You should call me when I’m in Bradenton weekend after next.

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't tell ME,

sweetleb is in the other thread.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Rumbunter know about this?

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Rumbunter?

Don’t you mean Even Meek?

by Wizard of Woz on Feb 15, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

No,

even meek could spell, at least.

Wilbur: the walrus was Paul.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

here's an actual quote from sweetleb run through translation party

6 GM boy blunder not phone-now…

Also, am I the only person who thought his name was sweetieb with an “i” the whole time? I was trying to search for his username and wondering why it wouldn’t come up.

Not actually affiliated with whygavs.

by WHYG Zane Smith on Feb 15, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Easier to click on his username...

it’ll take you right to the most recent comments.

(in case you weren’t aware )

Also, re: “Sweetie B” – I thought that, too when he first appeared back in the day. When everyone thought he was just a cute little ignoramus instead of a troll.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Note to the Yankees front office

Next time you won’t have to try and save face with your fans when you need to unload a $33 million player if you simply don’t sign them to an outrageous contract in the first place.

by Brakeman8 on Feb 15, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

Another note to Yankees front office

The sooner you make the deal, the sooner people stop complaining about it and start complaining about the next thing. Also, might be a good idea to make the deal while people are still suffering from “Linsanity.”

by Aphthakid on Feb 15, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Another note to Yankees front office

Screw you, you market-warping asshats.

Signed,
Fans of the other 29 MLB Teams

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Feb 15, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

I'd rec this 1000 times if I could

What a reference.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Feb 15, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I think this is just another example of the Yankees serving as a farm system for teams like the Pirates.

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

Too bad

the Pirates can’t call up Teixeira or Cano from AAA New York

by gorillagogo on Feb 15, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

More like a retirement home

And, as we’re seeing, it’s often hard for everyone to send grandpa off to the glue factory… er… home.

by Aphthakid on Feb 15, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yankees are pathetic

All they do is dump and trade their high salary players, I don’t know how their fans put up with it! They need a new owner that actually cares about winning and a F.O that doesn’t lie to their fans!

by BigB2323 on Feb 15, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

SALE THE YANKEES

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Zombie Steinbrenner is cheap!

Taking money out of the Yankees to prop up his interstate hotels in Ocala

Stupidity should be painful.
@elwreckingball

by wrecking_ball on Feb 15, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank God

Selig is saving teams like the Yankees, by posting a draft cap so they can afford and have a equal playing field against teams like the Pirates, so those selfish pigs don’t draft and buy up all the good talent!

by BigB2323 on Feb 15, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You can't hang that all on Selig

The Player’s Union fought for that draft cap just as hard, so as to ensure that the big-market teams will continue to sign veteran players like A.J. Burnett to ridiculously-bloated contracts that eventually lead to them to unload said contracts onto small-market teams like the Pirates to give them payroll flexibility.

The Pirates, because they are no longer allowed to spend their money on draft picks, will have to take on these crappy contracts in order to use the revenue-sharing funds to “improve the big-league product” and stay in good standing with the League and the Player’s Union, even though these players are, by and large, beyond the point of being able to help “improve” the big-league product.

Of course, the payroll flexibility that the big-market teams will gain out of all of this will allow them to poach the good young players that the small-market teams develop but cannot afford once they hit free agency, with the understanding that those deals will eventually turn into the ridiculously-bloated contracts that the big-market teams will look to unload onto the Pirates…

It’s the mother-loving Circle of Life, ya’ll.

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Feb 15, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't get teh impression

that the Union fought for the draft cap as much as they just went along with it when it became apparent the owners really wanted it.

by gorillagogo on Feb 15, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

The Player's Union...

…wants to ensure that teams continue to spend money on “established” major-league players who pay dues to the union rather than spending those dollars on draft picks. They have a vested interest in making sure that they consituents are taken care of financially.

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Feb 15, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

this

i disagree with gorillagogo I think the union wanted a cap badly

Yinzers uber alles

by BostonBuc on Feb 15, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

They should be contracted!

If they can’t afford to pay big league players, they shouldn’t have a team!

by Aphthakid on Feb 15, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

in many cases, the anticipation can be better than the actual event...

… but I suspect the (eventual) trade for AJB will not be one of those cases

by gonfalon on Feb 15, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

in many cases, the anticipation can be better than the actual event…

Yeah. It’s called a Pirates’ season.

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno...

…usually the waiting is like standing there with your head in a noose waiting for the trap to be sprung.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Feb 15, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i wish you guys could hear the people at work

People come up to me and are like “what’s going on dude? why haven’t they done this yet?! Prob the Buccos being cheap! They’re going to screw it up and he’s going to go to Cleveland! We need a new owner, i’m telling you!”

I just smile and nod at this point haha. I do have the sickest Bobby Bonilla poster ever up in my cube though. respect

by Mingy on Feb 15, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

Bobby Bonilla

Officially on the Mets payroll for 20+ more years, and currently making more than double what McCutchen makes… and they wonder why their a financial mess!

I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm. ~~ Mike Tyson

by Cheap Beer on Feb 15, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

they're

for the grammar nazi’s out there.

I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm. ~~ Mike Tyson

by Cheap Beer on Feb 15, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Or "Nazis"...

Just saying.

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Feb 15, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Bonilla's agent is the best agent of all time.

Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained

by Kosstic518 on Feb 15, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Hell, my wife keeps asking me if it’s done yet.

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

A nod’s as good as a wink to a blind bat

by King Oskar on Feb 15, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry WTM...

I couldn’t help meself – for the record I bet I’m way uglier than you

by BlindSquirrel on Feb 15, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This needs to end now.

Clearly, Charlie is running low on Burnett’s wire photos.

/is not serious in the least

Stupidity should be painful.
@elwreckingball

by wrecking_ball on Feb 15, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

Rosenthal’s latest says they’re at an impasse, with no other real suitor. It may be a question now whether the Yankees will cave or just carry Burnett as a reliever.

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

not even joking

this is good news – NH has them right where he wants them. mwahahaha

by Mingy on Feb 15, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

well

only if they cave… if they dont,….

by BurgherKing on Feb 15, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

FOX / Rosenthal, just now.

“Burnett talks remain at impasse
13 minutes ago by KenRosenthal

The soft deadline for the A.J. Burnett trade discussions is Saturday – the day before the New York Yankees’ pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Tampa."

MORE HERE

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Tim is reporting, based on his own source, that the Pirates will go to $12-14M but are holding out to keep their prospects (which no doubt means good prospects).

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

At least we can rest easy

knowing that Gerrit Cole won’t be included in the deal thanks to some crack reporting from ESPN New York. In other news, the Pirates won’t be including the deed to PNC Park, the ghost of Honus Wagner, the Bill Mazeroski statue, Ralph Kiner’s hands, Barry Bonds, Bob Nutting’s kidneys, Seven Springs, me, Jack’s magic beans, the Cathedral of Learning, the Klopman Diamond or all of the tea in China…

by KentuckyPirate on Feb 15, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ralph Kiner’s hands

The real ones, or the sculpture by the rotunda? Or both?

by Vlad on Feb 15, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The sculpture

I believe the real ones were sent to New York as part of the Kris Benson deal…

by KentuckyPirate on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d bump the Pirates’ contribution up to $15M if the Yankees would take the hands, too.

Occupy MLB! Down with Seligula!

by WTM on Feb 15, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what this means?

Time for more threats and condescension via the New York media! Woo-hoo!

by Jitterbug on Feb 15, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

take this witha grain of salt

But since this is the first time cashman has had to deal with the sane financial constraints of all other teams thar he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Maybe he feels he’s being bullied by the pirates and which everyone else calls negotiating but he’s runs the new York fn yankees and he wont be bullied. Having said that I know this happens all the time just the yanks make this type of thing public

by tbote123 on Feb 15, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Please walk away.

Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained

by Kosstic518 on Feb 15, 2012 12:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hot News

I just heard a radio report that someone has set a “soft” deadline of Saturday (presumably this coming Saturday, 2/18/12) to complete or move away from the AJB deal.

Lord help us. Dragging this out so long takes away the majority of the fun and joy related to a rare Pirates baseball trade. Whatever.

Good day.

by Uncle Nate on Feb 15, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

See my link above

11:16 CST timestamp

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw it

At this point, Huntington should just tell Cashman to cram it with walnuts and get back to him once the peyote high goes away. Call up Ruben Amaro and see if he’s less attached to Joe Blanton. See if the Astros will go halfsies on Wandy Rodriguez’s salary. Get ahold of Kenny Williams & see if he’s realized he’ll never get a Mat Latos return for Gavin Floyd. Something, anything other than this.

I love the idea of trading for AJ Burnett & I want him on the Bucs, but this is lunacy. I wouldn’t give the Yankees any member of the Bucs Top 10 if they ate all $33MM of his salary.

Jose Tabata is the truth

The following is a list of everything Darren McFadden is bad at: 1) Giving birth. End of list.

by Raybin on Feb 15, 2012 12:44 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

I love the idea of trading for AJ Burnett & I want him on the Bucs, but this is lunacy. I wouldn’t give the Yankees any member of the Bucs Top 10 if they ate all $33MM of his salary.

Agree.

by Vlad on Feb 15, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It's lunchtime!

Mmmm…add some swiss cheese and put it on rye…mmm….

But Lebanon bologna is pronounced buh-lone-UH. “Baloney” is what the Yankees are dispensing.

by Jitterbug on Feb 15, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

This is becoming baseball’s version of Zeno’s “Dichotomy Paradox” — i.e., an arrow will never reach the target because it first has to reach the halfway point, and before that the half-halfway point, and so on and so on until it must reach an infinite number of points.

/nerd thought.

by Garrett122 on Feb 15, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

The arrow paradox and the Dichotomy Paradox

are two different of Zeno’s Paradoxes, but point taken.

by Wizard of Woz on Feb 15, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

right

But the dichotomy paradox can be pretty much applied to any object in motion moving towards a stationary object. I used an arrow as an example but you can use a runner moving towards the finish line, or stubborn GM’s moving towards trading a pitcher.

by Garrett122 on Feb 15, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand the paradox.

just weird that you picked an arrow to use in the dichotomy paradox, when another of Zeno’s paradoxes is the arrow paradox.

by Wizard of Woz on Feb 15, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Zeno

My brother and I brought up Zeno’s paradox in regards to the endless negotiation literally about 3 minutes ago. Just logged on and found your comment. Good to know that others are thinking such weighty thoughts…

by brooklynpirate on Feb 15, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d for Zeno.

by Vlad on Feb 15, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

What did you have on your bagel ? I prefer jelly.

by chodan11 on Feb 15, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

cream cheese, natch.

by Garrett122 on Feb 15, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

natch....

Jelly is for toast.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 15, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Per Wikipedia

“Promite contains Hydrolysed Vegetable Protein, Sugar, Yeast Extract, Water, Salt, Colour (Caramel 150C, from Wheat), Wheaten Cornflour, Glucose (from Wheat), Spices, Emulsifier (Glycerol Monostrate), Food Acid (Citric), Added Vitamins, Vegetable Gum (Carrageenan), and Herb & Spice Extracts”

Um, Yum?

by MDBuc on Feb 16, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a group of people who desperately need for pitchers and catchers to report.

by crusty on Feb 15, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

And to know...

…if A.J. Burnett will be among those pitchers in Bradenton!

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Feb 15, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

so apparently

burnett turned down the angels as per mlbtr, who the yanks tried to convince to swap bad contracts in getting Abreu.

The Yanks are trying real hard to get “value” back. I mean, unless they like Abreu a whole lot more than Damon etc, what’s the point in not simply getting $6M per of salary relief and going and getting their preferred FA?

by BurgherKing on Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe the pirates should just sign whatever lh scrub the Yankees want.

Then they can trade him to the Yankees and the Yanks can claim they got who they wanted all along.

by Joe9195 on Feb 15, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

At first I blamed NH

For not getting this deal done already. Figured it was that he was too cheap or that he was overvalueing our prospects. While I still think Burnett can be a good pitcher. A very good pitcher, the Yankees need to put things in perspective. If they get 6 million dollars a year, can they not go out and sign someone of the same value as Burnett. If he doesn’t fit there and they want to move on then move on and quit delaying this.

by sidbreamslegs on Feb 15, 2012 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

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