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93.7 The Fan Tells Hosts To Avoid Talking About Frank Coonelly's DUI

93.7 The Fan has told its hosts not to talk about Frank Coonelly's DUI, Deadspin reports. Mark Madden mentioned that on Twitter earlier today, but it's Madden, so I decided to ignore it.

The topic apparently may only be discussed on the station in news updates. The decision by station management at 93.7 KDKA-FM, The Fan—a CBS Radio-owned property—is currently being tossed around Yinzer circles on Twitter, and a source has just confirmed it to me directly.

The Pirates apparently have "nothing to do with" The Fan's decision, but that's the station that's broadcasting the Pirates' games this year. I listen to The Fan a fair amount when I'm in town. I hope their coverage of the team will be trustworthy this year. It's important to cover the bad news as well as the good news, obviously.

UPDATE: Chris Mueller evidently is talking about the Coonelly issue on The Fan tonight.

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Noticed it too

Been talking nothing but Wallace all day…

Unrelated, but I’m glad I’m not the only person that ignores/dislikes Madden. His grammar/argument style/retweeting of pornstars reminds me of a 12 year old boy. And then I google image searched him…

by ATribeCalledGreg on Feb 23, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Unrelated, but I’m glad I’m not the only person that ignores/dislikes Madden.

No, a whole lot of people do.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Feb 23, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

So...

Just enough people like him to keep him on the radio?

You gotta aim high to fail so big. - Trace Beaulieu

by IAPiratesFan on Feb 23, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently

Which is way too many in my book. Tough to understand why he’s employed when Rocco DeMaro is available

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by glass0941 on Feb 24, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Because Rocco DeMaro dosen't yell and insult his callers on the air

Dosen’t openly talk about porn and fabricate things.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

His 14 or so successful years of hosting radio would disagree with this.

by Schide on Feb 23, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on your definition of successful. To me, Madden is successful at being a radio host like Ryan Doumit was successful at being a first baseman.

by thecheeseisblue on Feb 24, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because Spam

has been around for a long time doesnt mean that it’s any good. Look at all of the sucky rock bands like Aerosmith that still sell records. At least Aerosmith used to be good (well actually great) while Madden was never great, just a guy with a schtick that some people find appealing.

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Feb 24, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Mark Madden (although I haven’t lived in Pittsburgh in 5 years). I just don’t take him seriously and enjoy him making people mad.

One of my favorite things he ever did was reading the Great Gatsby on air when there was no significant sports news.

I am, however, a simple man with simple tastes.

I made most of my life decisions at a Foghat concert... I stand by them.

by Chester J Lampwick on Feb 23, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my favorite things he ever did was reading the Great Gatsby on air when there was no significant sports news.

That is funny.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Feb 23, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, my respect for him just tripled

It’s still really small, but more than it was.

by JRoth95 on Feb 23, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Really

It was funny when Kauffman did it. At least find something else to read. He reads teh same book, doing basically the same stunt as Kaufman did in ’79. In my book, he loses points for that.

by Wizard of Woz on Feb 24, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I prefer Madden's 1 hr pens radio show before his X show

He sticks to just Pens and doesn’t go off on tangents about strippers and porn stars (although sometimes its funny). I do think he is a great interviewer too.

Agree the format isn’t that good on the X.

by JCBucs on Feb 23, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Does that mean he’s an Andy Kaufman fan? If so, I’m highly conflicted between my disdain for Madden and my love for Kaufman.

by Joe Hamaham on Feb 23, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Madden

Precisely because I don’t take him seriously.

I do dislike the pornstar/stripper bits, though. And there are few things more uncomfortable than when he has one in studio to interview.

I’m not sure why you would discount a factual a report simply because it came from Madden. The guy’s a blowhard, not a fabricator.

by matskralc on Feb 24, 2012 6:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"The guy’s a blowhard, not a fabricator."

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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I do dislike the pornstar/stripper bits, though.

I have a friend who has a friend who used to dance at the club Madden frequents (you know which one if you listen to his promos on the radio), and she says that the friend says that Madden has, shall we say, unreasonable expectations as to the type of contact that he thinks his money should be buying at the club.

by Vlad on Feb 24, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

And there are few things more uncomfortable

I have no idea what you’re referring to. Are the girls just bad at making conversation?

by BlindSquirrel on Feb 26, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Madden is by far the most entertaining sports radio host in my opinion. He’s intentionally rude to callers and says inflammatory things to get under people’s skin because his act is to play “the heel”.

by gorillagogo on Feb 24, 2012 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree completely

He stirs the pot way too much when it comes to the sports teams here and I don’t approve. When I listen to sports I don’t like to get jerked around which is what he does on the air.

That and his whole obsession with hating on Malkin really turned me off to him.

Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee

Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.

The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.

by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

to each his own

He gets the best ratings in town, though, so he clearly knows what he’s doing.

by gorillagogo on Feb 24, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Not really...

People listen to him because they like to listen to him yelling and hanging up on callers. It’s certainly not because of his sports talk, which he knows nothing about

Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee

Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.

The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.

by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I havent heard him say anything negative about Malkin lately...

And look, he’s at the top of the league in points. Funny, we were told we were getting a world class Russian hockey player, and, well, there he is. Why on EARTH would anyone criticize his play until it gets to this point?

[/sarcasm]

by mattygabe on Feb 25, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

No your not alone on that.

Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee

Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.

The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.

by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Why?

I was listening pretty much all day and can confirm that it was only during news reports. No calls or discussion at all.

Why would they do that? Seems dumb.

by Mick Kraut on Feb 23, 2012 9:32 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

What ISN'T there to discuss?

Where else am I gonna go to make a completely irrelevant connection between a two-month-old DUI arrest and the Pirates trading away all their stars and their nickle and diming McCutchen and it’s no wonder this “best management team in baseball” is as bad as they are, and Nutting comes out and and defends this? What, he’s not making enough money off Seven Springs? I mean, come on, people. Wake up, sheeple! No way he pays McCutchen and Walker and yeah, these so-called “prospects” never pan out, what, they think we’re stupid? We need to boycott this team until Mark Cuban can buy the team and spend money in this town and Coonelly is just…I mean, Bob Nutting! Am I right. Love the show. I’ll hang up now and listen.

by Jitterbug on Feb 23, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Buck up

Real, natural snow on Saturday!

I can hardly imagine how shitty the base must be up there right now.

by JRoth95 on Feb 23, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

This needed to be written phonetically in Yinzer...

Like Faulkner used to with MS accent…

by Mick Kraut on Feb 23, 2012 11:02 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Hah!

Sorry, it would take too long on a QWERTY keyboard.

by Jitterbug on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Two different issues

If Frank Coonelly was leading a 95 win team every year as Team President I doubt you would be “boycotting the team”.

The DUI and its 2 month wait to acknowledge it is enough ammo to be upset about without going into their decisions pertaining to on the field.

by JCBucs on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

With as much time they spent this week

on the fight at a High School basketball game, I think they would love to do some more grandstanding and moralizing.

by Wizard of Woz on Feb 24, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Madden
Mark Madden mentioned that on Twitter earlier today, but it’s Madden, so I decided to ignore it.

I’m rec-ing this on the basis of that alone. Hahaha.

by Jitterbug on Feb 23, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

How are they going to enforce that if

people call in and want to discuss it? And why would they? There seem to be a lot of legitimate questions that could be discussed.

Welcome to the new dark ages.....

by Trogluddite on Feb 23, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

I assume they screen callers before they put them on the air.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Feb 23, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but

people can tell the screener one thing and ask another. Even with a seven-second delay, it will be a little odd if they keep cutting away from the callers.

Welcome to the new dark ages.....

by Trogluddite on Feb 23, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

there is a tape delay

my neighbor works in radio up here in Erie and there is something like a 5 minute tape delay so in case the aforementioned situation occurs, they can delete it.

by PuncSpeedChunk on Feb 23, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Curios

I listen/watch WFAN up here (the afternoon guy is simultaneously broadcast live on TV), so I thought all sports talk shows were real time these days.

Welcome to the new dark ages.....

by Trogluddite on Feb 23, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It may be different

with certain stations but there are safety measures in place to prevent callers from jumping on live air and shouting profanity, making racist statements, etc.

by PuncSpeedChunk on Feb 23, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The Pirates apparently have “nothing to do with” The Fan’s decision

Sounds like BD isn’t the only outlet taking Nutting’s dirty cash. SALE THE BRIBES!

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by wg1of5 on Feb 23, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

If the Pirates have nothing to do with it, then the radio station is being ridiculous because it's more than a worthy topic.

It shows a blatant conflict of interest, and I wonder if we’re going to get a season full of this kind of stuff on that station.

by Anthony Defeo on Feb 23, 2012 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

That seems odd

I think if you asked Coonelly he’d want them to talk about it. He made a serious mistake and would encourage using it for education. I also think that’s PR 101, to get in front of it.

Yinzers uber alles

by BostonBuc on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

PR 101

That seems pretty advanced for these guys. Maybe start with Intro to Mass Media.

by Jitterbug on Feb 23, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I took that

as a freshman. Met this bisexual chick there, and …

bucdaddy
Point Park College (University)
Journalism & Communications, ’79

by bucdaddy on Feb 24, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought I’d be writing to you, but I have to tell you about what happened to me the other day….

________________________________
Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 24, 2012 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Hah!

Got me!

I had fried chicken at their place once. Her girlfriend was one of the … least attractive women I’ve ever seen, even knowing what I knew.

by bucdaddy on Feb 24, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Class of 79 huh?

I grad-ji-ated from there in 77 so it is likely we crossed paths on the bridge at some point. I was an accounting major but was friends with some guys in journalism like Kevin Iole who has a nice gig with Yahoo now. It’s funny because something he wrote was linked on Smizik’s blog the other day and he was referred to as Kevin Lole.

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Feb 24, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

My God Kareem

I could have sworn I read it linked from Smiziks blog. If I was mistaken and I somehow confused you with Smizik I AM SO SORRY and will buy you beers all night at the next Gathering. BTW, I didn’t like the article. It is painful to read through a recitation of draft failures. It can forgive it though cause I remember Kevin as a pretty good dude and he was writing for a national audience who are likely not as aware of the Pirates past draft failures.

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Feb 24, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

its all good bro. i posted it because i thought oh boy a national story that is positive on the bucs. then i read it and was like huh, whats so hopeful? i think it was on smiziks blog. i wanted to read daquido’s comments and saw the link. now i find out he is from pitt, he should be linked to the doom and gloom crowd. i am not very advanced sabrematically, or grammatically but i’m excited about our chances this year.

by karreemofwheat on Feb 24, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you

on our chances. They played good baseball for 1/2 a year last year and I don’t that was entirely a fluke. I knew that it was not sustainable but I can’t forget how good it felt when they were on that roll. People were talking baseball again without making derisive comments about the team and I have not seen that many people walking around in Pirates gear in years. I think if they start playing just above .500 people might just stop talking about 20 years of losing and start looking forward to what is to come.

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Feb 24, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That name

sounds familiar.

For a fellow Pioneer, I will reveal my real name: Mark Stacy

I hung out with radio station people mostly. I was on a full ride so I lived in the dorms, which was actually kind of cool. I went to dozens of Pirates and Penguins games and concerts, everything was a 10-minute walk. Cheap, too. You could see the Bucs for $1 and the Pens for $5. First concert I ever saw was at the old Stanley my freshman year, Kansas and Spirit. Think it was like $7.75. Great place to be young and poor.

by bucdaddy on Feb 25, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The rest of you

avert your eyes from the name above. That is PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. Batman does NOT reveal his secret identity to just anyone. Not even my butler knows.

by bucdaddy on Feb 25, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

y'know what would ensure I didn't remember it?

your social security number and mother’s maiden name…

by BlindSquirrel on Feb 26, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Since he posts here,

time for Nutti — er, Charlie — to whip the Bucs front office into shape to get in front of this tomorrow

Welcome to the new dark ages.....

by Trogluddite on Feb 23, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

Fan is taking calls on Coonelly now

Chris Mueller, who’s by far the best host on that station is taking calls on it now

by JCBucs on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

Cool. I just saw Mueller was tweeting about it. Good for him.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Feb 23, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

good sense prevailed...

Will it continue tomorrow?

I want to hear Gianotti discuss it as Vinnie Richichi then answer every question with “that’s fantastic” as Josh Miller.

by Mick Kraut on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I wonder

if the Bucs are pissed. I would be. The lifecycle & reach of the story just quadrupled.

Good day.

by Uncle Nate on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

I'm betting

The Pirates That Be told them to knock off the embargo and that it’s OK to talk about it.

by Jitterbug on Feb 23, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Let it go already...

these pretzels are making me thirsty.

by Dane17 on Feb 24, 2012 3:23 AM EST reply actions  

does anyone really care that FC was arrested?

if i was in the burgh today and listening id want to hear about spring training. not 12 hours of should he be fired???

also, enjoy madden’s show when he talks sports and insults callers, it is entertaining, which is what he is supposed to do.

and mueller is by far the best host and the only one i enjoy listening to besides the morning show.

by bbautista24 on Feb 24, 2012 5:38 AM EST reply actions  

This is false.

I drove into work this morning listening to The Fan, and Paul Alexander and the other guy (I don’t listen enough to know his name, nor do I actually care what it is) spent the majority of my trip talking about it and taking calls from listeners about it.

As such, I call bullcrap, but since it’s Mark Madden, can we reasonably expect anything such as journalistic integrity or, you know, facts?

It's just my two cents. Could be worth more, could be worth nothing.

by Bishop1973 on Feb 24, 2012 7:30 AM EST reply actions  

since it’s Mark Madden, can we reasonably expect anything such as journalistic integrity or, you know, facts?

Yes. I listen to his show every day. He doesn’t make stuff up

by gorillagogo on Feb 24, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry but I just lol'ed when I read that.

Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee

Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.

The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.

by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I've always believed

that Smizik’s appeal is to older Yinzers while Madden’s demographic tends to skew towards younger yinzers. IMO he has beaten his schtick to death but he keeps at it because hey, it sells in Pittsburgh. He is almost obsessive with his dislike of certain Pittsburgh athletes like Hines Ward or Bettis and I can’t tell whether it is because they dissed him at one point on a show appearance or he knows that any criticism of a Steeler in this town will get you noticed.

Finally that tough guy persona he cultivates is a load up crap. He was a year or so behind me in school and while I didn’t know him I know a lot of guys who did and told me that he was a bit of a pussy.

I thought Vlad’s comment about his expectations in the Strip Clubs was pretty funny. He is the type of guy that makes chicks go “E’wwwwww, he’s gross”

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Feb 24, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

"He is almost obsessive with his dislike of certain Pittsburgh athletes like Hines Ward or Bettis "

And Evgeni Malkin. Even when he’s doing well he still pull out a snide remark here or there. And in his mind Ben can do zero wrong…ZERO.

From what I have read, if a athlete in this town dosen’t have a BFF relationship with Madden, he won’t talk highly of you on the air. That’s just how he is.

Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee

Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.

The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.

by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw him one time

at one of Mario’s public appearances and it was almost painful to watch Madden attempting to fawn over him while Mario did his best to ignore him. I almost felt sorry for him. It was like watching the fat kid making a fool of himself just so that he could say he is “buddies” with the biggest jock in school. He is successful but he is a fraud.

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Feb 24, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

also

I have not listened to him in years and was only vaguely aware that he was still on the air. I can’t believe he has a hard-on for Geno. I can only think that he sees him as some kind of threat to Sid’s popularity. Which if you think of it is really twisted and weird.

"Don Mossi was the complete five-tool ugly player. He could run ugly, hit ugly, throw ugly, field ugly and ugly for power.

by Pagliaroni on Feb 24, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Madden’s dislike of Bettis is because Bettis stiffed him for a scheduled appearance on his show once. It might have been so that Bettis could do another appearance, but I might be inventing that detail.

Not sure about the dislike of Ward. I would assume it’s the same reason, but that’s just my assumption.

by matskralc on Feb 25, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bettis thing was kinda understandable. Bettis had repeatedly been booked, but kept rescheduling. On something like the fourth try he had a manager call last minute and say he had an exclusive contract with another station. Madden lost it and it’s been all downhill since.

Hines used to do the show all the time. He’d even call unscheduled. One day Madden reported some rumor about Hines and Deshea Townsend and Ward refused to do the show again. Ward and Deshea would later get MM kicked off the WTAE roundtable show for trashing them.

by ElDuce on Feb 25, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I drove into work this morning listening to The Fan, and Paul Alexander and the other guy (I don’t listen enough to know his name, nor do I actually care what it is) spent the majority of my trip talking about it and taking calls from listeners about it

They only started talking about it after Madden and Deadspin called them out about not talking about it.

The Fan tries entirely too hard to be safe and non-controversial, so I can see why they’d avoid talking about Coonelly without the Pirates telling them. It’s largely a pointless news story in the big scheme, but completely avoiding it only makes it worse

by TravisDW on Feb 24, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Sign I haven't been in Pittsburgh in a long time

My first thought was “93.7… isn’t that B94?”

by SuperBaes on Feb 24, 2012 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

Yes!

Best radio station ever. Too bad it went under twice…

The glare of the spotlight is harsh, and the pressure that success breeds immense. We revere our heroes, but expect much. And criticism can come as easily as praise.
Perspectives become reality.
Twitter: @shanecglass

by glass0941 on Feb 24, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

This has to be a joke.

Surely, this cannot be right. The would throw the entire journalistic integrity of KDKA into question. Things like this is what ruins news organizations. If this turns out to be true, I’ll be livid. I feel very strongly about things like this.

The glare of the spotlight is harsh, and the pressure that success breeds immense. We revere our heroes, but expect much. And criticism can come as easily as praise.
Perspectives become reality.
Twitter: @shanecglass

by glass0941 on Feb 24, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

It's not really journalism, as such.

The news reports don’t appear to have been censored in any way. They were only restricting the subject matter of commentary by non-employees, and they have the perfect right to do that, if they want.

It may not have been a smart idea to close off that particular topic, of course. I probably wouldn’t have done it. But the station doesn’t have an obligation to grant airtime to any old opinion that someone wants to throw out there.

by Vlad on Feb 24, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Are the on-air personalities not employees of the station? If they are employees and aren’t allowed to comment on the reports…that would be censoring.

by Thunder on Feb 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

If they are employees and aren’t allowed to comment on the reports…that would be censoring.

Aren’t the announcers the ones who do the news? If so, they were allowed to talk about it – it was just restricted to a specific context.

by Vlad on Feb 24, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Reporting vs. commenting…two entirely different things. And I’m not there, so I have no idea whether they are just reporting the basic AP type story…or whether they are allowed to express their own personal views.

by Thunder on Feb 24, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't even in the top 50 most embarrassing things to happen with this franchise in the last 20 years...

So whatever. No need to get all in a huff about it. Let the courts take care of it. Guy has one of the two worst jobs in baseball along with Huntington. I would need to drink a lot too.

Too bad there hasn't always been a DH...then we never would have to hear about this Ruth guy...

by Brad Spontak on Feb 24, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

"I would need to drink a lot too"

He could of done it at home though, or if he had to go out found a desginate driver.

Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee

Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.

The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.

by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 24, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

“Hey Neal, remember when you talked me into Quinton Miller? Yeah, you’re drivin’ tonight.”

"What up no wings"

by Mr. E on Feb 24, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Today on the Fan

They’ve turned it around to the point where it’s the only thing they’re talking about. None of the discussions seem to be going anywhere though. The Seibel, Starkey, and Miller show opened with a fairly embarrassing rant defending their decision not to talk about it yesterday. They said the same thing happens at Clear Channel with the Pens and Steelers, and that even national networks like ESPN pulled the show Playmakers at the NFL’s request. Didn’t sound like much of a defense.

The only good to come from it was a caller I just heard who seriously said “What does he do anyway? Why would you even need a team president?” After that I might have banned discussion of it again.

by ElDuce on Feb 24, 2012 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

And when ESPN embargos a story...

they usually end up getting severely criticized for it by the rest of the media.

by Thunder on Feb 24, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I heard the beginning of their show

I thought it was an embarrassing argument too. Trying to spin your stations mistake isn’t going to make it better. I turned it off after that and I only tuned into Madden today so not sure what all the other Fan hosts said about it (although I admit I only like C. Mueller on that station).

by JCBucs on Feb 25, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

been back in Johnstown for 8 years

and have never heard Madden, but then I don’t listen to the radio much anymore. Podcasts. On demand TV etc

by Brian Cartwright on Feb 24, 2012 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

Madden had Ray Searage on today

During the interview you could hear police sirens at one point and Madden made light of that by joking on twitter that he almost wanted to ask Searage if Coonelly was driving. Haha

Searage talked about AJ, Morton, Bedard, the bullpen among other stuff

http://www.1059thex.com/cc-common/podcast/single_page.html?podcast=MarkMadden&selected_podcast=ray_searage_2-24_1330120266_1540.mp3

by JCBucs on Feb 25, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, so, I’m done. You start seeing a pattern of responses and it just comes out naturally. :)

People get so pissed off about Madden for no good reason. You don’t like him – great, we understand, many of those who frequent BD agree with you. You can continue on your day by avoiding listening to his program. He talks mostly about the Penguins and the NHL, so you’re safe anyways.

by mattygabe on Feb 25, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, if all you wanted to do was listen to some fat a-hole holler and curse about the Pirates,

you could listen to the Rumbunter Podcast.

Oh, wait.

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Free your ass and your mind will follow.

by cocktailsfor2 on Feb 25, 2012 6:58 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Robert Del Greco?

Any relation to Pirate outfielder from the 1950s (and burgh native) Bobby Del Greco? IIRC, great fielder with a noodle bat.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/delgrbo01.shtml

Well, definitely a noodle bat, but his rep was great glove.

by mocasdad on Feb 26, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

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