Will Salvador Perez's Contract With Royals Be Influential?
Grant Brisbee has a good article that sums up my feelings on the unique contract the Royals recently gave catcher Salvador Perez.
In case you haven't read about it, what's significant is that Perez is very young (21) and has almost no service time. He doesn't have a terribly exciting minor-league record, either, and was never really regarded as a top prospect. He hit .331 in 158 plate appearances with the Royals last year, but that doesn't mean much -- his minor-league record indicates he can hit for a bit of average, but nothing like that. The Royals gave him five years and $7 million, and then there are cheap team options for three more years.
I'm not sure whether the Royals should feel great about this, or ridiculous. I'm sure Perez feels great (seven million dollars!), but I'm not positive his agent shouldn't feel ridiculous. From the Royals' perspective, this all comes down to scouting. They must feel Perez has a great shot at becoming a decent regular, and they might be right, especially if Perez is able to make good on his reputation as a good defensive catcher. It's easy to say, 'Eh, it's only $7 million,' but that's actually a fair amount of risk, since if Perez suffers a serious injury, or forgets how to hit a curveball, or just generally flames out (as players with his pedigree often do) anytime in the next three years, the Royals would have been able to let him go, having paid him almost nothing.
Anyway, here's Brisbee:
I have no idea if this is a good idea. Seems like it. But it's probably a little above my head, all this contract talk. It still fascinates me. And I wonder if it's going to kick off a trend, or if we're going to realize quickly that one side really hosed the other, and that will be the end of that little fad.
Right. We often see teams give young players long-term deals, but we don't often see them do it with players who are this young and this unproven. The Pirates gave one to Jose Tabata last year, of course, but Tabata is practically a grizzled vet compared to Perez, and Tabata was much more highly regarded as a minor-leaguer.
I'm not sure about Perez in particular, but my guess is that despite the risks, the Royals are on to something here. By the time a player like Perez gets to the big leagues, most of the baseball world won't know much about him, but the team that controls his rights certainly should. They'll get to sign the player when the player's personal level of uncertainty about his future in the majors is quite high, and his financial incentive to sign his life away for $7 million is great. Given how cheap the options are ($3.5 million, $5 million and $6 million, the last two of which would be free agent years), the Royals only need to get a contract like this right one out of every three or four times to come out ahead in the long run.
To suggest any particular player the Pirates might do this with would obviously be pure speculation, but as a hypothetical, let's take the case of Kyle McPherson. McPherson isn't a top prospect, but he has put up good numbers, and it's obvious that the Pirates like him, because they put him on the 40-man roster after the 2010 season. He was a 14th-round draft pick in 2007, so he probably isn't sleeping on a bed of cash. If he comes up at midseason in 2012 and handles himself reasonably well, that would make his situation very roughly comparable to the one the Royals had with Perez. What do you think? Would you sign McPherson to a $7 million contract in that scenario? And please don't say, 'Sure, why not?' $7 million is not 'why not?' money, even if you're the Yankees. And keep in mind, as some in the comments have already, the risk in signing a pitcher, as opposed to a catcher, to a deal like this.
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It seems like a good idea on paper. Honestly I am not sure how insurance works on MLB contracts but if he puts up a solid half season and injury isn’t a concern why not.
by stanbelinda on Mar 1, 2012 3:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If both parties feel the risk is acceptable
then why not. But everything depends on individual cases. I wouldn’t expect this to be the next big market inefficiency.
The club gets some cost certainty with a player they know and apparently like. The player gets to take advantage of the time value of money, and given the sanctity of sports contracts in general, there’s also the dim possibility of renegotiation between the parties.
IDK who represents Perez; probably doesn’t fit the style of a Boras-type agent or a high-revenue team.
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I disagree with a number of points, and I'm shocked you don't love this deal on behalf of the Royals.
$7MM is basically why not money, especially when its spread out over 6 or 6.5 years and in comparison to stupid contracts like $8MM to Correia over 2 years. We can’t spend that money on the draft any more, so why not invest it in young players. If a young player were to break out and become a Super 2 player, you may end up owing him $20MM +/- over the course of his 6 or 6.5 years. If you think you have a shot to save that difference in money on a guy you believe in, you take it every single time.
Also, don’t forget to factor inflation into the equation. 6 of 6.5 years from now what you are going to owe Perez will be fractions of a WAR.
This deal is a no brainer slam dunk, even if Perez gets hurt because of the information the Royals had available to them at the time. The Pirates should actively be trying to do this with as many of their young players as possible (who aren’t relievers and that they believe have a future as a MLB starter).
Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained
by Kosstic518 on Mar 1, 2012 7:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
$7MM is basically why not money, especially when its spread out over 6 or 6.5 years
It’s a 5-year deal.
+1
Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained
one of the issues with this kind of deal
Is that while it’s set in contract. Players have been known to to sit out and try to negotiate a better contract, if they performed very well in prior seasons, while still in their current contract. Players have been known to not come to spring training etc because of what they feel is a bad contract years later. Usually that also comes with a firing of the agent who agreed to the damn contract.
I think this can happen can’t it? I can’t think of any for instances right now.
or is it only seen in Football?
He could sit out or not sit out with or without this contract.
He wouldn’t be paid if it was this contract or standard arbitration, so your point is moot.
Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained
I ould have to agree that an average of 1.4 million a year is "why not" money.
Everything that guy just said is bullshit . . .thank you
For an almost unknown quantity?
On paper, there’s good odds this guy is out of baseball in a couple years. $1.4M is “why not” money on a one year FA signing because your liability is limited. BUt if Perez fails, it’s $1.4M, then $1.4M again, and $1.4M another couple times.
If you’re 99% certain that the guy can stick as, at absolute worst, an above average #2 C, then the deal approaches “why not”, but the length of the deal means it’s not “why not” for most positions and most players.
Good article, Charlie.
What’s funny about this, is not so much why would the Royals make this deal, but why would Perez?
From the Royals side, I guess they are betting that Perez would make more than 5.5 million (the 7 million minus the 3 years of league minimum he would have made without this deal) in his first 2 years of arb. I guess it’s not a terrible gamble. Will a good-hitting (batting average-wise) be worth more than 2.5 million in year one of arbitration? I don’t know.
The biggest question, though, is why would Perez do this? I guessing he’s betting that he WON’T be able to make more than 5.5 million in his first 2 years of arb. With Tabata, it was pretty obvious why he wanted to insure that he’d be here long-term. Number 21. The fact that Tabata is playing his idol Clemente’s position of right field with Clemente’s team, is probably a pretty big factor for him.
And as you mentioned, Charlie, Tabata has a bit more of a pedigree.
I’m curious to if anybody has done a positional analysis (I’m sure they have) to see, on average, how much more money outfielders are awarded in arbitration than catchers. Or if there is really no correlation between the position and money.
Just saw that the total value of the contract (if he meets all incentives) would be 8 years, $26.5m.
Never mind, I know why Perez signed it too!
isn't it if he meets all incentives AND the team picks up his options?
So basically the only way he gets the full $26.5 mil is if the Royals think he’d get more on the open market.
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by WHYG Zane Smith on Mar 1, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
What’s funny about this, is not so much why would the Royals make this deal, but why would Perez?
A guaranteed $7M will make a huge difference in his quality of life going forward. He didn’t get a big bonus as a Venezuelan amateur, and for him, it’s worth sacrificing a little potential financial upside in order to be financially set until the day he dies.
Will a good-hitting (batting average-wise) be worth more than 2.5 million in year one of arbitration?
Perez has some offensive tools, but contrary to the expectations set by his cup of coffee, he isn’t really a good offensive player at this point. He’s only about six months removed from a .283/.329/.427 line in the Texas League. That’s fine for a 21-year-old catcher, but probably not the kind of numbers put up by a guy who’s going to be an immediate offensive force. He does earn points for defense, since he’s a very good catch-and-throw guy.
I think you've hit the key issue
I’ve seen a lot of Perez (and am a former catcher). His defense is electrifying. He’d play if he could hit barely a lick. The stats don’t quite tell you how good, because the Royals’ pitchers are so slow to the plate.
Viva Clemente!
Why would Perez do it?
There are three possibilities in the future:
1. Perez will be a superstar. If so, he can sign a massive contract at age 28.
2. Perez will be OK. If so, he can sign a similar contract at age 28.
3. Perez will be horrible, or get a career-ending injury. If so, he can spend the rest of his life playing Atari, because he’s filthy rich.
Sounds like a very good, moderately conservative financial plan for Mr. Perez.
Here's the breakdown...
Year 1: $0.75M
Year 2: $1M
Year 3: $1.5M
Year 4: $1.75M
Year 5: $2M
Year 6: $3.75M – option
Year 7: $5M – option
Year 8: $6M – option
$5M in unknown incentives
from royalsreview
Would you say that Pressley fits this mold as well?
I would feel pretty good about a contract like that for him. Overall it seems like a good strategy. Curious to see if this catches on.
Nope.
Let’s face it, Presley is the 4th outfielder on this team the second Marte debuts.
I think Presley will be a very good and successful 4th OF/bench guy, but his days as a starter will be numbered.
Or a trade piece
but either way, no reason to sign such a deal with him. Especially, now that I think of it, with the Tabata deal in place – how many OFs do you want to lock down?
How about we lock down three?
Seriously. Look, let’s say Marte comes up and rakes, and the Bucs find themselves with an outfielder surplus, then you trade either Presley or Tabata. Even if at that point they’re only slightly above league average, their youth and contract make it VERY appealing for trade partners. If you can get someone like Presley to sign a 5 year/$7 million deal, that would be a coup in my opinion.
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The trouble
is that no one outside the org (probably) thinks much of Presley – no pedigree, no power, not much track record.
Now, if he does great in 2012, before Marte arrives, that’s fine – he’d have value in the trade market.
But if his 2012 is underwhelming, and then Marte takes his job, then Presley never has the opportunity to show his stuff, and you’re left with a 4th OF making (modest) starter money.
If there were no help coming from the minors until 2014, I’d be more tempted to tie down Presley at a discount price, but as it is, I don’t think we need him that badly, and I’m not convinced anyone else would take his contract.
Plus, of course, it’s not as if he’d be untraceable as is. This will be his first full season (I think), so he’s got 6 years of team control, and 3 years of league minimum, ahead of him. If he’s the real deal, he’ll be valuable with or without a Perez contractor.
by JRoth95 on Mar 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I definitely wouldn’t give a deal like this to Presley at this time. The opportunity cost is so small.
I’d highly consider giving it to Marte though.
Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained
Inaccurate to say Presley has no power......
Unless you still only think power shows up by way of HRs. His slug/iso pct both say differently than you….
Fair enough
But as long as he’s a Pirate, he’s a corner OF, and corner OFs are presumed to be home run hitters. You can hope that other orgs will view him as a CF with ample power who happens to be in LF, but, again, this isn’t a guy who’s been on anyone’s radar (including ours before 2009).
It comes back to positional scarcity – what will convince another org that this guy is so much better than any OF they have in house that they should commit starter money to him for 4 or 5 years?
Presley is perfect for this
Look at the contract terms…Yr 1- 5 is $$ that would be hard to get a vet, with little skill, and no potential for that kind of bank. Think of it this way, what LF in baseball could you get for $2M and be worth anything? There is no REAL money until the option years…if he is good/great you pick up the options…if not you let him go. This is a GREAT deal for the Royals and if the Bucs could do this with Presley, etc. it would be great for them
You need to consider position scarcity.
There are a hell of a lot more corner outfielders than there are above-average defensive catchers.
Exactly what I was thinking
This isn’t a terrible contract for a backup catcher; which appears to be Perez’s floor (if he’s as good a defender as it seems). If he’s a positive with the bat at all, this is a steal for the Royals. Injury appears to be the only concern in this case. I don’t think Pittsburgh has a comp; we saw last year how important a good catcher is and how difficult it is to find one.
Yup
I missed that when I suggested it.
by Wizard of Woz on Mar 1, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Perez vs. McPherson is not an apt comparison.....
First of all, I wouldn’t do it w/ McPherson for several reasons, w/ the most important one not having to do with Perez or even McPherson. It comes down to position and risk. Pitcher’s performance is much harder to predict and maintain, but, more importantly, its much harder to project that the Pitcher will, you know, actually pitch. The heightened risk of injury for Pitchers makes comparing the Perez and McPherson example worthless.
Second of all, Catchers – who play good defense – are sometimes all a team is looking for, making them extending Perez on his defense alone justifiable in theory. The fact that he is unproven w/ the bat (regardless of internal evaluation) doesn’t break him as an everyday player like it would w/ a 1B or corner outfielder. If he handles the pitching staff, frames well, throws out people well, stops pass balls well, then…..the Royals may want to lock him up for the duration of a contract at a discounted rate – regardless of whether the bat is real.
I’m not opining on Perez in particular because I am ignorant to his pedigree, numbers, potential, etc. But, I’m pretty sure he would be a much better candidate for this type of extension than a relatively unproven pitcher……..not just McPherson, but any pitcher.
I’m not opining on Perez in particular because I am ignorant to his pedigree, numbers, potential, etc. But, I’m pretty sure he would be a much better candidate for this type of extension than a relatively unproven pitcher……..not just McPherson, but any pitcher.
McPherson was the cleanest comparison I could come up with in terms of prospect status, but you’re right, the position difference is huge.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Mar 1, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Understood
One thing, though: Provided that McPherson has a similar start to what he did last year, I am pretty sure you will start seeing his ‘prospect status’ improve rather quickly. While he got the results and people question his ‘stuff’, I just read a really informative article on his Avg. Velo – in comparison to some highly thought of MiLB prospects – and he compares rather favorably.
He is one of those guys that, if the results continue to look solid, his ‘stuff’ may get a retroactive upgrade – resulting in him being a legit prospect w/ pretty decent potential.
Btw, this is a credit to the FO for recognizing and making the decision to protect him after 2010 from the Rule 5 draft. They saw his 2011 year before he did it – and now they are (apparently) going to reap the benefit from a solid-mid-rotation starting pitcher….which is obviously very valuable.
Yep, I agree with all that. Not that I think that scenario is all that likely, but it’s possible.
Can you post a link to the Fangraphs piece? I just tried to find it and couldn’t.
Also:
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/10/22/2505667/pirates-minor-league-system-whats-in-an-ace
by Charlie Wilmoth on Mar 1, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
This one, I think.
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by WHYG Zane Smith on Mar 1, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
What I'm unclear on
Is what his likely Arb 1 looks like if he’s merely an OK catcher.
Let’s say he plays a bit better than you’d project from his MiL stats/pedigree, but doesn’t break out in any meaningful way. Looking at all catchers with at least 200 PAs in 2011, let’s say he’d be in the bottom third of batters – wRC+ in the high 80s, between John Buck and Josh Thole. But he’s a solid defender, so his fielding number (caveat about catching defense metrics) is around +2.5 runs.
He ends up looking something like Kurt Suzuki, I think, who was worth 2.3 fWAR in 134 games. Suzuki’s best seasons might have been better than Perez will ever be (wRC+ 95, +6.4 Fld), but I think it’s fair to say that, if the Royals are right about him, he’s a ~2 WAR/season guy, worth ~$9M/year on the FA market. Go with a 40/60/80 split (unreliable I know), and his first 2 arb years look something like $3.6M and $5.4M.
Now that doesn’t – at all – say that the deal is a bargain for the Royals. They’re taking on way more risk than a typical extension, and $9M in arbitration is an upside (but not ceiling) number, not a median projection. However, there’s a lot of room between $5.5M (what they’re on the hook for) and $9M. Factor in some inflation, and it may be that Perez only needs to be a bit better than a warm body to at least be a break-even value (frex, if 1 win is worth $5.5M by then, and he’s a 1 win player, than his first 2 arbs would be worth almost exactly his contract – and his first option would be a significant bargain).
Plus the team options
If Perez sniffs his upside, K.C. is set at catcher for quite some time. If he’s a complete train wreck, they’re out about $5.5 million on paper… but I imagine someone will take a gamble on a guy that the Royals (top farm system in MLB) thought was going to be an MLB regular… they might get some of that back.
I was thinking that, too
He wouldn’t be super-desirable or anything, but someone would take him, and at least a portion of his contract, off their hands. If nothing else, he’d be the kind of guy that we would have looked at last summer, and there’s always a team with a catching emergency.
Actually, looking at the terms, they’d have lost money on him in ’13 and ’14, but his salary in ’15 would be small enough that it would likely be just a straight trade – not nec. getting value back, but at least not having to pay salary a la Burnett.
Biggest drawback
may not be the risk that he doesn’t produce at all; it may be that he ends up a McKenry-like guy, a fine backup but not nearly good enough to deserve 125 starts per year. But, although $1.75M isn’t a huge sum in 2015, it does cut into what you can pay a FA to start 125 games – theoretically you can find a win and a half for $7.75M, but do you really want to sink $9.5M into the catcher position and not even get 2 wins out of it (and remember, these are the highly constrained Royals).
Projecting Perez a bit more
So McKenry caught my eye – he just barely made by arbitrary 200 PA cutoff for looking at catchers. in almost exactly half of a starting catcher season (58 games, 201 PAs), he was worth 0.2 fWAR. So if Perez turns into McKenry – solid glove, no bat – the Royals are screwed.
However, the good news is that McKenry is a truly bad hitter – wRC+ of 59. And all of the other guys at the bottom of the catcher ranks are also massively flawed – Miguel Olivo paired a wRC+ of 79 with a -10.9 Fielding number (!), while Joggin’ Ronny combined a wRC+ of 82 with a -4.1 in 248 PAs. Point being, Perez would have to be pretty damn bad – almost no bat at all, and very little glove – to fall far below 1.0 WAR/year as a full time guy.
Which, per my calcs above, suggests that the risk may not be that severe: if the guy can hang at all, then he’s decently likely to reach that threshold where the guaranteed portion of the contract at leads roughly breaks even. IOW, I don’t think the risk is that he’s a bad player (he only needs to be a bit better than McKenry), it’s that he can’t play at all (Robinzon Diaz).
Position
Position means everything in this debate. I don’t do this kind of deal with any unheralded pitcher. It has to be a Catcher or SS that will have already shown to be an excellent defensive player. The team takes the risk that the bat will develop, the player takes the early money and knows if he outplays his current contract he will make future money.
I don’t see a Pirate that this makes sense on, not even Tony Sanchez.
I love the Tabata deal
Even if he doesn’t develop at all, the contract is fairly standard for an average outfielder. If Tabata does develop (and his pedigree indicates there’s at least a decent chance this happens) then it could be a steal.The Perez deal surprises me because it was signed SO quickly.
by KentuckyPirate on Mar 1, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I think this is exactly right. SS and C are positions where you’re reasonably likely to get stuck with a string of barely-capable guys (Cesar Izsturis still has a job), so locking down a moderately capable guy with a deal that doesn’t kill you at the downside, makes sense with even tolerable performance, and is a steal at league-average performance makes a lot of sense. It’s hard to see that being the case at other positions where you can more easily find 1-2 WAR players (including in your own system).
I think that the Tabata deal makes sense because his upside is so great relative to the deal, plus he’s so young that he’ll never age out of it – it’s a rare prospect who’s established in the bigs at 21 or 22, such that even a very long contract only covers his absolute peak years. You do that with a Neal Walker, frex, and you’re buying a middle infielder’s early 30s – no thank you.
how does the Royals get that money over to Perez' house?
im guessing they just load it up on Salvador’s Dolly.
groan
And please don’t say, ‘Sure, why not?’ $7 million is not ‘why not?’ money, even if you’re the Yankees.
I dont know, it seems to me that it really is. That’s not to say you give it to a fringe guy like Josh Harrison, but for C, SS, or SP, if you like their chances of sticking and they’ve shown they can handle the big leagues in a small sample (2/3 year), it seems like a no brainer to take the chance. It puts a bit more pressure in terms of notthrowing away money for small market teams, but thats about it.
Someone call Selig.
Clearly, this type of deal needs to be banned, before the Pirates and the Royals prevent the Yankees from signing the players that are rightfully theirs.
by Joe Hamaham on Mar 1, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
+1
rec’d.
Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained
I don’t think it’s good policy to guarantee money to non-elite players. If the Royals think he’s going to be an above-average starter, by all means make the deal. But since I don’t have any idea how the Royals see this guy, I have no idea whether it’s a good move or not.
For frame of reference, I wouldn’t give this type of contract to McPherson, and I wouldn’t have given the Tabata contract to Tabata.
I would give this type of contract to Marte, though, who, though he has a higher pedigree, didn’t get a big bonus and might be amenable to the guaranteed money up front.
Good point
He’d probably require Tabata money though. Doubt his agent settles for much less. Although, your point is, and it’s a good one. If we put say 5/9 guaranteed in front of Marte with club options that make it 8/27, he’d be hard pressed to walk away from 9 million guaranteed money. That’s especially true considering he’s maybe made 250K playing baseball for seven years. That’s vastly different than say Gerrit Cole, who has 8 million in the bank. Part of Matt Moore’s thinking I’m sure. His signing bonus was only 120K or 220K or something like that. Now he’s set for life.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Mar 1, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Could we maybe
see Marte hit in AAA before we throw money at him?
No offense Charlie, but I don’t see Kyle McPherson as a good comp. Though it’s a small-sample size, Perez had more than 150 plate appearances in MLB as a 21-year-old. McPherson has never pitched above Double-A, and was a bit old for that level. If Kyle had a 3.00 ERA with at least a 2-to-1 K/BB ratio in seven or eight starts for the Pirates, then I would definitely give him a Perez-like deal. But, at this moment, we have no idea if he would look as overmatched as Jeff Locke.
Read the article again. The hypothetical is based on the idea that he comes up at midseason and pitches reasonably well.
by Charlie Wilmoth on Mar 1, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
150 good MLB PAs isn't much
Remember Chris Duffy?
by maguro on Mar 1, 2012 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
All good examples of the downside. All, however, were 3-to-5 years older than Perez when they had their taste of success. Joe L. Brown once said if a player doesn’t make it by the time he’s 22, he probably won’t. I believe that’s a little extreme, but it remains true that the really valuable players tend to arrive early.
nope he said 24
if your not in the bigs by 24
your not a great ballplayer….
“please buy the team mr. cuban”
by sweetleb on Dec 21, 2011
by karreemofwheat on Mar 1, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
I would. But I'd probably want to keep the 7M spread out over the 5 years.
Even if McPherson doesn’t work out as a starter, he’d likely be a good bullpen arm. I don’t think a small town club can make a habit of doing that though. You have to be pretty sure the prospect has a great chance to at least not flame out completely.
the same thing could have been said about Owens before 2011
now you barely hear anything about his future with the pirates
True, but neither have pitched in the MLB yet, so neither is a perfect comparision.
(I’m not saying you said they were, just stating)
Should the Pirates keep Neal Huntington?
http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/5/16/2174135/poll-should-huntington-be-retained
The exact reason I'm not too high on McPherson.
Probably too simplistic, but I guess I’m wary of guys with decent but not great stuff who rely on command to “breakout” at lower levels. Hope he proves me wrong.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Mar 1, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
i was always under the impression that McPherson had
3-5mph over Owens… not much idea about movement…
Owens was hitting the mid 90's
when I saw him a few years ago in WV. Thought Owens sat like 91-92 and McPherson maybe 93-94 at best.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Mar 1, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I spend a little bit of time at Royals Review.
Those are some funny, funny dudes, and I have no doubt its my AL destination if my frustration with The Twins Way, management and disproportionately shiny-happy rah-rah fan base ever sours me irrevocably.
Anyway, I recall that RR’s well-informed equivalents to BD’s minor-league focused, sabr-friendly regulars have had Perez on their VIProspect radar as catcher-of-the-future for a while now – WAY before the call-up, which I believe came earlier than anyone imagined at the beginning of 2011. So he’s at least a guy smart KC fans viewed as an important piece for a while.
As far as the deal goes, I think it’s a fantastic concept and one the Pirates would do well to ape at the appropriate time if they want to have the potential to extend their competitive window.
It comes down to market size: is there risk here? Sure. If you do it 3 or 4 times is that a lot of risk? Sure.
But we all know that no matter how successful, a winning “band” in Pittsburgh will get broken up – at least to some significant extent – at a point not far removed from their winning peak. If you’re big market, you don’t have to do this, because you can afford to keep above average players around.
If you’re tiny market – like the Pirates and Royals – you have no option but to get a better return on investments than average.
So you do things like pay for high upside high school arms in the draft. Not because they’re an inherently good gamble (even if they are/were), but because you NEED to hit on some scratch-off tickets if you’re going to contend for a World Series.
I see this as the same thing: it’s something the Pirates/Royals CAN actually afford, with returns that have the reasonable potential to far outweigh the cost. Yes, it could blow up in their face, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. And if it “hits”, the window for contention just got significantly longer. If he’s a 3 WAR player and you’re paying him @ $11m (inflation-devalued) dollars for years 7 & 8 combined, that’s an insane value.

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