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It's Tracy

Jim Tracy is the Pirates' new manager. Here's what I wrote about him last week. Here's an interesting editorial on Tracy's departure from the Dodgers, from the San Bernardino County Sun (via Dodger Thoughts):

Tracy at least subtly, and sometimes actively, thwarted the will of [GM Paul] DePodesta. Tracy rarely played Hee-Seop Choi, the first baseman DePodesta likes for his ability to get on base and hit for power - and Tracy loathed for his batting average and lead glove.

Is that any way to run a team? With a GM procuring Players A, B and C . . . and the field manager not playing them? Is it unreasonable for a GM - whose job also is at stake - to expect the guys he brings in will get at-bats and innings?

A basic concept at work here: The clash of Old School baseball vs. the Stat Wonk academicians. Tracy was firmly grounded in the former camp, as are most sports journalists. DePodesta in the latter.

The Old School guys believe in "chemistry" and "intangibles." They talk about a guy's value to the clubhouse and believe leadership somehow translates to victories.

The modern Stat Wonk isn't interested in a guy's ability to quip in the face of adversity. He wants to know how often he gets to first base, how often he scores and how many runs he drives in. Baseball's masses of numbers lend themselves to computer analysis - much to the chagrin of the anti-modern romantics, who prefer to count on their fingers and toes. Bright guys such as Oakland GM Billy Beane understand that. Such as DePodesta, too.

Yikes. After I last posted on Tracy, an anonymous commenter said:
Did you like Brad Eldred and Craig Wilson? Too bad, they'll never play again.

Do you want your young talent to get a fair shot? Not going to happen, all player evaluation is based entirely on the first ten plate appearances. Unless of course, there is an arbitraty decision tht he plays "bad defense", in which case, no matter how good they are offensively, they will never play again.

It seems this person might be right.

Here's a good blog article on Tracy:

Tracy engineered effective platoons. He gave us Game Over. And more. It was a good four years...

But I no longer believe Tracy is making us better than we would be without him... With their walk-heavy offense and strikeout-deficient pitching, the Dodgers now have different strengths and weaknesses than they have ever had under Tracy, and he hasn't shown a clear ability to manage them effectively - even taking the team's injuries into account...

Without the bedrock of believing he is making our big picture being better, little moments like failing to remove or pinch-hit for a tiring pitcher before the damage is done, picking the wrong reliever for a given situation when the right one did not need further rest, or greeting a baserunner in a tight game by having your No. 3 hitter - a man with plate discipline, batting skill, power and speed, a man who has grounded into a double play only 37 times in a 3,103 plate-apperance career (once every 83.9!), someone who does strike out but otherwise is almost all dividend with no risk - having that player bunt - you don't want to go to bed with that manager anymore...

...[W]hen one of your best hitters has been sitting most of the week, and stands before you in need of anything but a rest, yet you still find a way to keep him out of the lineup to start one of your worst hitters - as happened Sunday with Hee Seop Choi and Oscar Robles - add it to the list of reasons I don't want to be with you anymore...

The more I read about this, the less I like it.

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I'm surprised
I was sure Macha would be hired after his non-re-hiring by the A's.  I'm also disappointed because Macha has a real good rapport with young players, and IMO would have been a great match for the Pirates.  Tracy's reputed unwillingness to play developing players is certainly not what I'd hope for in a new manager.

by Brian in 317 on Oct 11, 2005 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Trepidation
I have to say that with every article I read I am becoming more concerned that Tracy is really just a better prepared Lloyd McClendon. No one has convinced me or shown me an argument for Tracy as a developer of young players or someone who understands and can work within the contraints of the small revenue team. What I do see is a petulent person who openly submarined his superior and allowed a team to underperform to make some small point.

But it won't matter unless Littlefield acquires better players - period. If the Pirates stick with the kids, be prepared for another 90 loss campaign.

by Greg Schuler on Oct 11, 2005 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Tracy
I think it's a good hiring. Tracy's Dodgers outpeformed their talent in his first four years. This year's team had injuries, though Depo is partly to blame for acquring injury prone players such as Bradley and Drew, and not providing sufficient depth. And that Derek Lowe signing was indefensible.

Just because Tracy stopped playing Choi doesn't mean he won't go with young players. I believe in Choi, but three managers (all old school I grant you) have disliked him. Perhaps I'm the one who's wrong.

Say what you will about the talent, but Tracy has given time to Izturis, Werth, Navarro, Repko, Houlton, Brazoban, Aybar and other young players. I just don't see him as the next Dusty Baker.

Will he play Brad Eldred? Maybe. It's not like Eldred is some mega prospect. His K-BB ratio has been horrible at all levels. The power is awesome, but the Pirates should be on the lookout for a better alternative. I just hope McLouth gets a chance in the outfield.

by bolton on Oct 11, 2005 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

tracy
Wilson leading off. Bay laying down a one-out sacrifice bunt to get him to second. Redman still in Pittsburgh. What a doomsday scenario you describe.

I don't think any of it will happen; if it does, we're in trouble.

by bolton on Oct 12, 2005 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Jim Tracy, arrogant ass
Tracy took it upon himself to become a GM with veto power by failing to play the players DePodesta got him. He's also pleased to pray for illiteracy among Pirates fans, not to mention publically called out the GM for assembling a bad team.

The LA media is very much on his side (as witness this parody, which became sadly necessary after the local rag's trained attack donkey started kicking.

It's not all bad news, though; I expect the Pirates organization is full of old-school baseball people.  He should get along well with them. Whether he helps the Pirates win remains to be seen.

by scareduck on Oct 12, 2005 2:51 AM EDT reply actions  

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