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Bucs Sign Tony Armas Jr.

The Bucs have signed Tony Armas Jr. to a one-year deal with an option for 2008. They designated Franquelis Osoria for assignment to make room.

As bad as Armas is, he's a markedly better option than B.P. Chacon. Armas doesn't strike out enough batters and he isn't especially reliable, but his peripherals are still far better than Chacon's or Shane Youman's. This move improves the Bucs. Well, not by much, but the fifth starter spot easily could've been an endless parade of horrible pitchers with 8.00 ERAs. This move decreases the chances of that happening.

UPDATE: According to the Post-Gazette, Armas gets $3 million in 2007. He gets $5 million in 2008, or a $500,000 buyout. Unless Sean Burnett makes a spectacular comeback or Brad Lincoln mows down three levels of the minors this year or both, Armas will probably be back in 2008. So you can basically consider this a two-year, $8 million deal that the Bucs get to make one year and $3.5 million if Armas gets injured or really tanks. That's not bad, although I can't get too excited about this (and judging from the lack of comments here and elsewhere so far, none of you can either). The Pirates' strength is supposed to be pitching, and a pitching-rich organization shouldn't be paying Tony Armas to start for them.

There's also the fact that John Thomson and Tomo Ohka signed for far smaller amounts of guaranteed money, despite being arguably better pitchers (albeit with injury issues). We know Ohka didn't come to Pittsburgh not because the Pirates wouldn't pay him, but because he simply didn't want to. This illustrates one reason why it's unwise for the Pirates to depend on free agents year after year - while a lot of players will follow the money wherever it takes them, some players just don't want to play for a losing organization.

Still, the Pirates got decent value with this move. There's really nothing to complain about, until one considers the broader context.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Actually, the 2008 option is mutual. I don't know exactly what the conditions of the option are. The AP reports that Armas' 2008 salary can increase if he plays well in 2007. Again, I don't know what the conditions are.

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You brought the meter down for this move? Wasn't it at 73?

by Charlie on Feb 1, 2007 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

72.1
I dropped it to 72 when the Cubs signed Cliff Floyd. Or maybe it was for the red uni ...

by bucdaddy on Feb 1, 2007 11:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is a good signing.
He's our 5th starter, and he's capable of pitching 150-200 innings at 5 ERA and no higher.  Lots of major league teams would kill for their 5 guy to be that "solid."  In fact, only 3 teams had their 5 spot give a 5.00 ERA or better.  (source: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/how-good-is-your-4-starter/)

Those teams were Detroit, Chicago (AL) and San Diego.  Not coincidentally, those teams all did well last year.  This move strengthens us.  Chacon wasn't going to be terrible, but he's not as good as Armas.  There's no reason to think that Armas can't go .500 with our improved offense.  And heck, he's another year removed from the shoulder thing, maybe he will improve a bit.  But if he's our 5th best starter, i'm satisfied with that.  Now if someone gets hurt, we have 3 right handed replacement starting pitchers (Chacon, Bullington, VanB) and 2 lefties (Youman, Burnett) ready to step in.  That's 10 starting pitchers.  That's enough depth to get through the season well.  Lets hope all 5 guys stay healthy though, because if they do, we could win a lot  of games.

by PGHcager on Feb 2, 2007 9:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

did Ian Snell suddenly become left-handed?
from the AP article posted at yahoo! sports:

"The Pittsburgh Pirates ended their long search for a right-handed starter Thursday, agreeing to a $3.5 million, one-year contract with Tony Armas Jr.

...

The Pirates expect to begin the season with four left-handed starters ...."

Either this is a careless/dumbass typo, or Snell is about to be traded....

by humbucker on Feb 2, 2007 1:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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