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Colorado vs. Pittsburgh, 16 July 2007

7:05 PM, FSNP, WPGB

Taylor Buchholz (4-3, 4.65) vs. John Van Benschoten (0-3, 5.40).

After a complete mess of a series against the Braves, the Pirates start a series against the Rockies tonight - our old friend Josh Fogg will start tomorrow.

Here's the box. Ryan Doumit catches. I'll be in the comments.

Jose Bautista has landed on the DL after sliding into Chipper Jones' shoes during the game yesterday. These two need to stay away from one another - last year, Jones injured his hands last year after colliding with Bautista, missing four games.

Anyway, there's been a bunch of roster shuffling - Don Kelly has been added to the 40-man roster and will join the team in Bautista's place, John Wasdin has (thankfully!) been designated for assignment to make way for Kelly, and Salomon Torres has returned from the DL, where he'll take Wasdin's place.

I'm no fan of Kelly, obviously. The Bucs really did have to call up an infielder, but why not Brian Bixler? Or Yurendell DeCaster, who's hitting .291/.391/.422 at Indianapolis? Unlike those two, Kelly, who was hitting .218/.218/.306 at Indy, is pretty much guaranteed to not hit. If the Bucs are saving Bixler so they can use him when they have a starting position for him to play, I think they're probably kidding themselves - it's not that he's obviously incapable of handling a starting job, but he's not nearly good enough to worry about service-time issues.

In the same article, Dave Littlefield says the players will determine whether the Pirates are buyers or sellers at the trading deadline. July 31 is only two weeks away, and the Bucs have lost three in a row, dropping them eleven games below .500 and eleven games out of the NL Central lead. One wonders what would have to happen between now and then to convince Littlefield the Pirates should be buyers. It is obvious that they should be sellers, and every day Littlefield dithers about what to do increases the likelihood that we're going to have another debacle like last year, when Littlefield waited and waited to trade his players and then made a horrible bunch of deals within the last hour before the deadline.

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Why Kelly and not DeCaster
Gary Sheffield thinks it's racism.

by azibuck on Jul 16, 2007 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm confused.
"...every day Littlefield dithers about what to do increases the likelihood that we're going to have another debacle like last year, when Littlefield waited and waited to trade his players and then made a horrible bunch of deals within the last hour before the deadline."

Was there ever a chance that this wouldn't be the outcome?

by Vlad on Jul 16, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I know Josh Fogg
isn't a very good pitcher, but he's also not a terrible pitcher, and he's an extremely consistent pitcher (like between 85 and 89 ERA+ much of his career). There's some value to that. A team with several decent or better starters can stick him in the 5 spot and know exactly what you're going to get, and he's not going to kill you, and you can do a lot worse (cough Armas cough). I notice his ERA and WHIP went up a tick the year he moved to Colorado, as they should have, humidor or no humidor, and they have leveled off right there. I'm not saying I wish we had him back ... well, wait, that's exactly what I'm saying.

by bucdaddy on Jul 16, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

You can be nostalgic for Fogg if you want.
Me, I'll just be glad that we aren't tied into a multi-million dollar deal for yet another below-average veteran.

by Vlad on Jul 16, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

JVB
hits Willy Taveras with the first pitch. Awesome.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitchouts
I know Taveras is a dangerous runner and all, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't bother pitching out when JVB is on the hill. He has a hard enough time throwing strikes.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh.
What a weird play. Holliday singles to right, Bay throws the ball in, and Holliday gets to second because Wilson lets Bay's throw hit him. I have no idea what he was thinking.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Doumit singles home McLouth
That makes up for one of the runs Doumit allowed with his crappy game calling.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Bay strikes out looking
In defense of him and LaRoche, that is a pretty good breaking ball.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Sunday
So who starts Sunday? Armas, Chacon or Bullington?

by Thunder on Jul 16, 2007 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Armas, maybe?
He's probably going to pitch today, so that might make sense.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stolen Bases...
Living in Utah, I don't get to watch the Pirates games.
But "watching" this on yahoo, I have to ask... is it that hard to find a catcher that can play some D (you know... limit the wp and passed-balls and throw out would-be stealers) while also hitting a bit? Or do you have to take one or the other?
Because this is just getting annoying.
"Wait till next year... again" Win Or Go Home

by UtesFan89 on Jul 16, 2007 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Off Topic
Oh, and a bit off topic.
Just wondering, is it possible to get the game live online (TV or radio) for free?
I don't think it is, but I'm just wondering...
"Wait till next year... again" Win Or Go Home

by UtesFan89 on Jul 16, 2007 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope
Both are services of MLB TV - you can get streaming video of all the games online for a hell of a lot of money, or you can get radio calls for something like $15 a year.

by SeanCollier on Jul 17, 2007 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

MLB.tv
It's not too expensive. I pay $15 a month for mine.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 17, 2007 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stolen bases
This hasn't really been Doumit's fault tonight. JVB has a bad pickoff move. Doumit's throws have mostly been okay.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bullington...
is pitching tonight for Indy, so far, 3IP, 3H, 2R, 0BB, 4K.

by Thunder on Jul 16, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say DL doesn't want to start
Bixler's service time clock by bringing him up.  If they bring him up in September though, I'm not sure if that counts or not.  Therefore Kelly is the default call up.

by Travis @ Bucs Dugout on Jul 16, 2007 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

In other words...
don't worry about putting your best lineup out there, just worry about what you will be paying him 3 years from now.

by Thunder on Jul 16, 2007 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good pitching by Armas.
He has that ERA comfortably in the sevens now.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason Kendall
ESPN's Jayson Stark reporting Kendall to the Cubs for Rob Bowen and a minor league PTBNL, to be announced later tonight.

by Thunder on Jul 16, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Great.
Seriously, Matt Kata is the best pinch hitter we have with the game on the line?

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.
Ok, Kata comes through. 9-7. How awesome would it be for the Pirates to come back and win this one?

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The announcer
Said that was a breaking ball for strike 3.  It wasn't, was it?  Horrible by Freddy Ethier way.

by azibuck on Jul 16, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

MLB.tv
Went out when the ball was in the air.  What happened on Tavaras's hit?

by azibuck on Jul 16, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Taveras
Texas leaguer to shallow left center that Wilson bobbled and failed to catch.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jack
just isn't very good. Or smart.

Why is it he is considered a "good" defenseman? i've never, ever seen it.  Just lazy and brainless play usually.

by Johnny Strange on Jul 16, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Am i alone on this?
The only thing i know FOR SURE about jack is that he makes like 2 million more than the next highest paid Pirate.

by Johnny Strange on Jul 16, 2007 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You're close
Jack makes 5.4 mil, Chacon is next at about 3.825 mil. The others at 3 mil or more are Bay (3.5), LaRoche (3.2), and Armless (3.0).

by Thunder on Jul 16, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

none of which
have really earned their pay yet.

by Johnny Strange on Jul 16, 2007 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh
It would've been nice for Doumit to draw the walk there.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhhhhh
A big opportunity missed there.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Bayrod
...man...what happened to that guy?

by Johnny Strange on Jul 16, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.
Great hustle by McLouth. Nice to see the Pirates showing some emotion out there.

McLouth was out, though.

by Charlie Wilmoth on Jul 16, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, pretty much.
He created just enough confusion with the hustle to get the call. Nice work.

by Vlad on Jul 16, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing....
and more nothing.

wow, i've never seen a pitcher throw more crap than this julio guy is.

and we're just giving it up to him. nice rally.

by Johnny Strange on Jul 16, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Strike zone
At least the bullpen knows where the strike zone is.

JVB 2+IP 37 strikes 25 balls
Bullpen 7 IP  60 strikes 22 balls and only 1 unearned run.

by Thunder on Jul 16, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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