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The Case for Dan Duquette

John Perrotto at the Beaver County Times revealed in an article this morning that Dan Duquette is one of the candidates for the Pirates' vacant CEO position. I've seen some negative visceral reaction to the idea out there, which was interesting to me because my initial take on the situation was fairly positive, and I thought I might take a minute and share my analysis on his candidacy.

There's a lot of history here, so I'm going to try to be concise. Duquette got started as a scout for the Milwaukee Brewers, and he first came to real prominence as their scouting director in 1986 and 1987. The Brewers enjoyed unusually productive drafts in both seasons, bagging Gary Sheffield, Greg Vaughn, Darryl Hamilton, Bill Spiers, Steve W. Sparks, Jaime Navarro and Troy O'Leary, as well as various relief pitchers and short-timers. Duquette then moved on to the Montreal Expos as director of player development, and the Expos quickly established a reputation for developing top talent at low prices. He became Montreal's general manager after the 1991 season, and he completely revamped the roster with an uncanny series of trades. Andres Galarraga for Ken Hill. Barry Jones for Darren Fletcher. Dave Martinez, Scott Ruskin, and Willie Greene for John Wetteland. Bill Sampen and Chris Haney for Sean Berry. Ivan Calderon (and stuff) for Jeff Shaw (and other stuff). And the best of them all, Delino DeShields for Pedro Martinez. The 1991 Expos were a 71-win team going nowhere. The 1993 Expos finished in second place with 94 wins, and didn't have a starting position player over the age of 27. Duquette left the next spring, and the 1994 Expos had the best record in baseball when the strike killed the season for good.

In 1994, Duquette was as hot a property as you're likely to find in baseball. He was the Billy Beane of the early '90s, but then he got into bad habits in Boston, throwing money at problems instad of employing the same kind of solutions that had worked for him in Montreal. He did make the playoffs three times in seven years, and he did have a few transactional high points: acquiring Pedro Martinez (again) for Carl Pavano and Tony Armas, Jr., flipping Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe, adding guys like Troy O'Leary and Tim Wakefield on the cheap, etc. The Red Sox fired Duquette after a disappointing 2001 season, and he went outside of MLB, founding a training academy and then becoming Director of Operations for the new Israel Baseball League.

I'm willing to cut Duquette some slack for his Boston performance. I know that GMs sometimes become stale as they age, but Duquette is still fairly young (born in 1958), so I don't think that's the cause of his trouble. Rather, I think that his skills were minimized and his weaknesses were magnified by the nature of that position. Fortunately for us, our situation has a lot more in common with Milwaukee and Montreal than it does with Boston. He won't have the opportunity to push for ill-advised big-money contracts, since the Nuttings are too cheap to authorize that kind of expense and no elite free agent would want to come here right now anyway. He won't have the opportunity to develop a blood feud with an aggressive and hungry press corps, since our media market doesn't have any Dan Shaughnessys to attack and torment him, and a little straight talk will probably be welcome after Littlefield's oozy pandering.

Duquette will be free to apply the formula that worked for him in his earlier positions: acquire and develop top young players by whatever means necessary, promote them to the majors as part of a wave, then restock periodically as they age and become expensive. He might have some useful international connections from his Israeli work that he can leverage to that end, and who knows, he might even have learned something from his failure in Boston.

Anyway, that's my take on Duquette. I think he's an intriguing option for the position, and a definite improvement on other candidates like Joe Garagiola. What's your opinion?

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Nice summary.  As you describe him, no question he's a good candidate.  

Who can forget Heathcliff Slocum for Varitek and Lowe.  One of the all time fleacings.  I had forgotten it was Duquette.

by rogero on Aug 22, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan Duquette.
I also read that the Josh Beckett trade was done with players brought in during the Dan Duquette era at Boston (Hanley Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez).

Does Hanley Ramirez ring a bell?

Ramirez was the rookie of the year last year and might be the player of the year this year. If Dan Duquette could do this kind of magic for the Pirates he would be worth his weight in gold.

He could run for governor.

But is Bob Nutting smart enough to hire him? I dunno about that one. We'll learn a lot about Nutting based on this hire.

It's funny that any fan cares if the Boston journalists felt a lot of love from Duquette, as if WINNING isn't the top priority. I think the Boston media is partly to blame, since a lot of what they had to say over the years was moronic and he simply pointed it out. And how many of them love Clemens after he played for the Yankees?

All of the journlists who castigated Duquette for Clemens need to reexamine themselves, because maybe the the selfish a-hole was Roger Clemens and not Duquette.

Nobody said he was hard to get along with in Montreal. And he turned them into a winner and the team he built in Montreal was clearly the team to beat in 1994. They were my pick to win the world series.

And the team that Theo Epstein and Larry Lucchino inherited in Boston were full of Duquette's players. Imagine if they had inherited a clunker of a team from David Littlefield, they would still be rebuilding.

Duquette basically built two world series caliber teams with no budget and a big budget. I agree his skillsets a tailor made for Pittsburgh since he can spot and develop talent.

I also think it's unfair to assume that a small market team that has lost for 15 years and wants to become a winner will not embrace Dan Duquette. He obviously knows how to build a championship caliber team from scraps.

In my opinion Pirate fans would be lucky beyond belief if Dan Duquette accepted a job offer. There are a lot of other teams who could use his talent and its not as if the Pirates organization is an easy fix.

We're talking about a major clean and sweep project. And it will take someone who isn't afraid to crack a few eggs to get it done.

I think Dan Duquette is our man!

by bigshotbob on Aug 23, 2007 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's an improvement over the other names...
...and he definitely has an infinitely superior history of drafts and trades than Littlefield does, but...I just get really tired of the good ol' boy network at work here.  Duquette would be better than Garagiola or Jocketty, but I'd still take an actual, honest-to-god new name over any of them.  I'm sick of recycling.

Then again, Dave Littlefield was a 'new name'.  So I guess that means I have no point...

by Bill C. on Aug 22, 2007 9:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Experience
I think that experience is more important for the CEO than it is for the GM. The CEO is mostly a tone-setter and a sounding board, kind of like a consigliere, except that he can fire the Don. You can still get some young, hungry turk to work under him and handle a lot of the day-to-day stuff, if you want.

Honestly, I think that adding an experienced CEO makes it more likely that we'd have a fresh GM, rather than less.

by Vlad on Aug 22, 2007 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duquette
When I read this report I actually thought it was great.  What concerns me about bringing in an "unknown" for the CEO and GM positions is that it could be quite easy for Nutting to bully and meddle.

Someone like Duquette has a proven track record with small market franchises and I would think that Nutting would have to acquiesce to his knowledge and experience.  At this point of course it means nothing, let's see what actually happens!

by OmarMoreno18 on Aug 22, 2007 9:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Experience
The Pirates have suffered through McClatchy's entire tenure with a CEO who has no clue about major league baseball.  He also seemingly never had any interest in educating himself or seeking advice from anybody other than his own incompetent GMs, which is like asking the fox whether it's safe to leave the henhouse door open.  They need somebody who knows what a major league team looks like and how it operates.  Nutting's in no better position to evaluate the baseball operations than McClatchy was, so whatever sign we get that he's interested in finding somebody who is able to that is a good sign.

by WTM on Aug 22, 2007 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice summary!
I agree, Duquette seems like he'd be a good fit.

and as a side note:

"... the 1994 Expos had the best record in baseball when the strike killed the season for good."

that strike pretty much also killed the Montreal Expos, or at least popular support for them.  I visited Montreal for work in '02, and by that point very few of the locals seemed to care about the Expos, or MLB in general.  hotels didn't even carry Expos schedules in their lobby, like any other MLB city does....

by humbucker on Aug 22, 2007 10:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh 1994
The year Matt Williams was robbed of the single season home run record...

by bryanzane on Aug 22, 2007 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After reading this fine analysis by the Impaler
I do feel better.  There is much there to like, and my memories are most vivid of his last days in Boston.  I have to confess that I would love to see them do something completely out of the box, and hire Kim Ng as GM, but the new CEO needs to be in place first.  Whether Ng or not, I'm a lot more comfortable about any GM candidate if Duquette is making the decision than if it is Joe Garagiola.  We could do far worse than Duquette, indeed we may not be able to do much better, and I feel much comfortable about it now.

by RichieHebner on Aug 22, 2007 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the 1994 Expos
Yeah, I've thought the same thing. After the fans, the Expos were the second-biggest victims of the strike. They had a great team, and a trip to the World Series might have given them the money to keep some of their stars, maintain their fan base and, ultimately, keep their franchise.

Also working against them, though, is that Olympic is the worst MLB stadium I've ever been in, by far. Cold, ugly and enormous. I can't blame their fan base for finding any reason not to spend three hours in that place. That a city as charming and interesting as Montreal allowed such a monstrosity to be built, and that it cost every citizen of Canada about $1 million apiece, is one of history's great injustices.

by bucdaddy on Aug 22, 2007 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This shouldn't matter, but...
Doesn't Duquette bring a side order of being difficult to work with?  I don't know if it was just with players -- Roger Clemens has said he didn't re-sign with Boston because of Duquette.  And really, I don't care.  But I could see him being a short-timer if he's too caustic for Gentle Bob Nutting.  Maybe it was just an impression fostered by the Boston media?

by azibuck on Aug 22, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could be.
After DL's relentless pandering and smarm, though, I think even an honest jerk would be a step in the right direction.

by Vlad on Aug 23, 2007 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And never let it be said...
...that Napoleon didn't know how to win a battle.

by Vlad on Aug 23, 2007 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could live with an honest jerk
It would beat the hell out of the dishonest jerk we now have.

by RichieHebner on Aug 23, 2007 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CEO vs. GM
I can't see this as an issue anyway.  Most MLB CEOs stay behind the scenes while the GM is on the front lines in player personnel decisions.  The CEO is only going to get attention in extreme circumstances, like the Ramirez fiasco.

by WTM on Aug 23, 2007 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DD
I was happy to see that Nutting wants a baseball person as CEO, and Duquette should definitely be on the list of candidates. His biggest plus is that he has always been active on the international front, from Latin America to Asia and even now as a key part of Israeli Baseball League management. This facet of his experience -- coupled with his fairly strong draft record -- is what the Pirates need most of all.

I don't like the fact that he's a jerk. I don't like that he made questionable player personnel moves while trying to please former/pending Red Sox ownership. And most of all, I don't like that he seemed fairly oblivious to meaningful statistics (like his Moneyball successor, Theo Epstein). I hope he has learned over the past 5 years that numbers should be a factor in evaluating players.

I'm struggling to name many alternative candidates. Frank Wren? Pat Gillick? John Hart? Steve Phillips? None of those seem like great fits. Maybe we can lure Chuck Tanner out of retirement to be the smiling, figurehead CEO.

by Alleghenys on Aug 23, 2007 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't even think it.
Steve P------s will appear if you say his name three times.

He's dumber than ten dogs.

by Vlad on Aug 23, 2007 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for those uninitiated
like me, can somebody please explain why i should root against garagiola being hired? (not that i defend him, i just know nothing)

by Geeves28 on Aug 24, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Veteran obsession
He nearly drove the D'backs into bankruptcy.  He made it clear he disliked young players and threw money in great gobs at increasingly poor veterans to avoid playing their prospects.  He did spend his way to a title, but the very old team he assembled started declining fast and he brought in worse and worse vets to try to keep it afloat.  There's no way he'd have that kind of budget in Pgh., even if the Nuttings weren't cheap.  There couldn't be a more inappropriate choice for the Pirates.

by WTM on Aug 24, 2007 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's like Howard Baldwin...
...if Baldwin had been into baseball instead of hockey, and if Baldwin had been a terrible judge of talent.

by Vlad on Aug 24, 2007 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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