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Link Roundup: Bucs Show Plans for Dominican Academy

-P- The Pirates have computer simulations of their new Dominican academy. I don't have a lot of specific knowledge about what other teams' academies are like, but this one looks cool, and it sounds like it's going to be an enormous improvement over the awful one they have now:

Nutting showed slides to illustrate the differences between the Pirates' existing, rented facility and the new one, using photographs of the old and computer models of the new.

The current one has a single batting cage with an uneven mound and weeds surrounding it, cement floors in a tiny clubhouse and a single field. There is no headquarters building, no exercise room, and all residences are in another part of town.

It's obviously very early, but it sounds like Bob Nutting, Frank Coonelly and the Pirates really are taking this problem seriously.

-P- The Cards have signed catcher Yadier Molina to a four-year, $15.5 million deal with an option for 2012. The deal potentially buys out two of Molina's free agent years. I think I like this deal for the Cardinals. Yes, Molina's only one year removed from a .595 OPS, but he's only 25, and he showed real progress in 2007, improving his walk rate enough that he's likely to continue to be an asset as long as he hits .260 or so and continues to play outstanding defense. The Cards' only real catching prospect is Bryan Anderson, who could potentially platoon when he's ready, so this deal doesn't really get in anyone's way. Normally, I'd say that Molina is the sort of player who should be taken to arbitration rather than signed long-term, but starting catchers aren't easy to come by.

-P- The White Sox have signed Octavio Dotel to a two-year, $11 million deal. Dotel is 34 and he's not nearly as good as he was when he and Billy Wagner were dominating the late innings for the Astros. And more importantly, I have no idea what planet Kenny Williams' head is on. His big moves this offseason have been to deal Jon Garland for Orlando Cabrera, trade his entire farm system for Nick Swisher, and drop $30 million on a pair of aging relievers (Dotel and Scott Linebrink). If the Sox were in the NL Central, Williams' plan to sneak into the playoffs by crapping all over the Sox' future might just work, but they aren't. They're in one of the best divisions in baseball, and the Sox won 72 games last year - signing Alex Rodriguez wouldn't have gotten them into the playoffs. Acquiring Dotel isn't the worst move that's been made this offseason, but it doesn't make any sense, and it's not going to make the Sox better in 2009.

UPDATE: It occurs to me that the "crapping all over the Sox' future" might be a little unfair. Christina Kahrl has argued very passionately (subscription only) that acquiring Swisher was a future-oriented move for the Sox, but I don't agree. The Sox gave up a high-upside arm in Faustino de los Santos and another good one in Gio Gonzalez for Swisher. While Swisher is signed to a very favorable contract, I don't see his skill set - lots of strikeouts, lots of walks, low batting average, power - as one that's likely to age all that well, particularly in a few years when Swisher slows down and has to move to first or DH. If he hits .255, he's an asset, but if he dips to .235, he's a problem. And in the meantime, if the Sox don't have anything in their farm system, how are they going to contend against the Indians or Tigers before 2011 or so?

-P- Speaking of 72-win teams, Dayn Perry sees the Reds as a team that could surprise people this year, and I have to say that, in spite of Wayne Krivsky's moronic general managing, I agree. There's a lot of upside in the rotation and in the lineup, and I could easily see a scenario in which Homer Bailey, Edinson Volquez, Joey Votto, Jay Bruce and Edwin Encarnacion all have good years and the Reds suddenly wind up at the top of the standings. I don't think it will happen, but the Reds will definitely be worth watching this year.

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Our old friend Jody Gerut
got a make-good deal with the Pads.

by bucdaddy on Jan 21, 2008 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Encouraging sign ...
Honestly, would this have happened if DL was still in charge? Fat chance.

All these years of losing have created an angry, amazingly negative fan base, and rightfully so. However, Bob Nutting deserves a ton of credit here ... signing the next Miguel Cabrera won't happen overnight, but this is certainly a step in the right direction.

by nick3849 on Jan 22, 2008 2:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Signing the next Miguel Cabrera
Probably isn't going to happen at all.  The negative in the article was that they're still not willing to pay six-figure bonuses.  Huntington's comment about putting an "internal value" on players means that they're not going to adapt to the market, i.e., they're not going to pay market prices.  The bottom line is that they're still operating on the assumption that the other 29 teams are idiots for paying these big bonuses and the Pirates are the only team that knows what they're doing.  The hard evidence is just the opposite.

The facility is good.  The article on the whole, though, is bad.  They're still not willing to compete in the market for top talent.

by WTM on Jan 22, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God
The Dominican Academy includes a "bunting diamond."

And here's something I didn't know -- the DR gets "frequent rain."  I thought the sun shined 24/7/365  down there, but they average over 54 inches of rain annually.

by azibuck on Jan 22, 2008 9:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that
what Pittsburgh gets during the Arts Festival?

by bucdaddy on Jan 22, 2008 10:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
somewhere around that, yes!

by matskralc on Jan 22, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bet
Half the rain falls during two or three tropical storms. With our luck, though, a Category 4 hurricane (named Dave, no doubt) will hit 2 weeks before the academy is scheduled to open, wiping out all the progress.

by TPenaRules on Jan 22, 2008 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Reds
You know, I thought the same thing about the Reds at the end of last season having written about them all summker at FanHouse. I was looking at their roster and at the guys about to come up and I thought to myself, "How the hell is this happening? They might actually be good next year!"
http://whereisvanslyke.blogspot.com
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/mlb

by whygavs on Jan 22, 2008 10:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

2008 Draft?
Baseball America predicts that the Bucs will go for Pedro Alvarez of Vanderbilt, whom they call "a lefthanded-hitting version of Albert Pujols." Tons of power, soft hands, good arm, and might beat Paulino over 40 yards.
Viva Clemente!

by Roberto on Jan 22, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He'd be a good pick.
He might not get to us, though, since he's pretty much the consensus #1 right now.

We're still really early in the game for predicting first-round picks. Guys can fall (Michael Burgess) or rise (Clayton Kershaw) a long way in the space of a season.

by Vlad on Jan 22, 2008 10:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you like impact bats:
Keep an eye on Justin Smoak. If I had to pick one guy from this draft class who's going to hit well in the pros, it'd be him.

by Vlad on Jan 22, 2008 10:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilbur is right
For the record, I have been saying the same thing since Coonelly was hired.  They are convinced that they can make a petri dish out of the Pirates.  He intends to win on the cheap, and show the world what idiots the other 29 teams are for paying ridiculous money for talent.  You can argue that this is being negative, but the fact that it is negative in no way negates its fundamental truth.  The lovely plan for the academy notwithstanding, Huntington has simply gone out and publicly said the sort of thing Coonelly has been intimating for a while, both in his actions as MLB's labor counsel, and what he told mutual friends and acquaintances since getting this job.

by RichieHebner on Jan 22, 2008 6:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"He intends to win on the cheap"
Whoo-hoo!  He intends to win!  That's the part I care about.  I wasn't sure about this regime, but now that you've said it, I feel a lot better.  Seriously, it's not the best (having a tight-fisted owner), but intending to win on the cheap is a lot better than intending to win 75, and falling short of that.

I'm glad our FO has guts and confidence.  Perhaps down the road, if they smell blood, some money will follow.  Coonelly is a shark, right?  Maybe he'll bully Nutting into spending when the time is right.

by azibuck on Jan 23, 2008 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dominican Academy
That wouldn't be a copy of Salomon Torres' academy, would it?
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jan 23, 2008 11:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Coonelly bullying Nutting
Intentions are great, but the if the plan that underpins them is based on a fallacy, they are worthless.  Coonelly won't bully Nutting into spending money.  He won't need to.  If by some miracle they are in contention, they will all be on the same page and will spend money.  If they do that, everyone will have a ball for a few months, and after we are knocked out of contention in September or out of the playoffs in October, reality will set in.  We'll all realize that their finite bag of money was wasted, and everyone will focus on the plan to get good and stay good, assuming there really is one and they can execute it.  The only way they can prove their intention to win to my satisfaction is draft well, deal smart and build, build, build.  Pumping a few million dollars into a mirage in late July is meaningless.

by RichieHebner on Jan 23, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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